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Posted: 8 years ago

#141

@deepsel...What you said of Soha becoming the responsible kid like Dev and supressing her first reactions in order to not to upset anyone, just like Dev did...it seems so correct...id not thought of it but after reading it seemed to just fit...

@shavi...the dev and devrath dixit piece was amazing...im amazed at thw depth to which you can analyze these characters...

@all... I absolutely love reading everyone on this thread and really appreciate the time you take out to express your opinions and analysis...many like me cherish this ahow much more after reading you guys bcz u bring in such amazing perspectives...

Thank you soo much and keep writing :)

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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#142

Hi , after reading the all the beautiful posts.Now I want to add some points which which are related Fridays' episode.

First of all I think dev is once again using vikki as poppet,.With this he can achieve 2 thinks

1. If Vikki fails and make some mistake this time we find the vikki on the streets along with mamiji. I am having full confidence on at the viiki's stupidity.

2. I think due to stupidity of vikki he will be one who will clear the misunderstanding. Some how I am having a feeling that it will be the end of Vikki and elena's relation. By which they both will not get effected because they are one and the same. selfish.

Now coming to sona and Bose families relation. Some how I am not able to seance the love which used to be there. From sona's point of view it was more responsibly. From the starting of the show she was having a major responsibility about her family like dev. Now some how she feel herself more responsible for what ever happen to bose family and that's why in the last conversation with dev at farm house she was only Bose daughter. She is not allow herself to think or act like sona. The sona who loves dev. That why she is able to convince that she don't require dev. But this will be difficult for her whenever she is near dev. I am the only one who feel that she get irritated with the bijoy and Aasha's surprise visit.

I feel very sad for dev and sona because they got Ishu and Bijoy as there parents who many time act as a child. Asha is wise but at certain point she is not able to control the Bijoy.

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timbarucha83

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Posted: 8 years ago

#143

Guyes can you tell me the reason why dev was so angry when sona use the name as, sonaskhi bojiy bose.

For me I can have two reasones

1. It gives him the, idea that sona has, moved ahead. And still considering her family as preference. Like before there separation sona, has the assemption as dev had given ishu as, preference, and not having any importance to her.

2. And as dev is, bleaming ishu for there separation in the same way may be in mind he is, bleaming bijoy also and with this name plate, incidence that for sona her bose family is the most imp part form her.

And this is the root cause of separation that they have not taken any efferts to tell each other place in each others life

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gmgi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#144

The episode was beautiful and disturbing all at once. When Dev told Ishwari that he can't be bound to any one or anything anymore it felt like a forewarning to expect the unexpected.Ishwari is terrified of course. The one person who still has any hold on this new avatar of Dev is coming back to their lives. When her hold on her son is no more how can she accept this approaching doom. If they gets back together there will be nothing that will hold Dev back. He himself confidently expressed that all his duties are done and dusted with. She tried to remind him of the pain Sonakshi caused to make him back down, but to no use.

The scene awaiting him at the office was of a different Sonakshi. She was a boss in true sense. He had always loved all the shades of her be it her ego, pride or anger. This was something new to him and he was rooted to the spot until Sona saw him. Sonakshi was prepared for the bully Dev who always used to get what he wants. But Dev stumped her just like he always does with his welcome and a handshake.

The fateful night Dev and Sona lost each other is etched in each others memories. Insult to her father was paramount in Sona's memories when she was asked the name to be put on the name plate. But for Dev he always remembered Sona rejecting his love and choosing her family's pride over him. So the name Sonakshi Bijoy Bose wouldn't have been pleasant to hear. It will always remind him of her choosing her father over him, of everything he lost.

Vicki even though miffed with Sonakshi had the presence of mind to not enter into a verbal tussle with her. He too recognized who was the boss there. And also Dev's reaction to the name was unexpected. So he wanted to navigate carefully and went to Dev to understand his reaction. Dev knew what Vicki wanted. He showed the indifference to the maximum wanting to get rid of Sonakshi at all costs. Vicki tried to bait Dev with his plan to remove Sona from the office. Dev was all for it, promising to give him everything if he succeeds. Now who actually baited whom and who took the bait will come out soon enough since Vicki have decided to move his queen in the match against the other queen. Will it be check mate?

P.S: After Sona left the Dixit house, Dev said she have crossed not only the threshold of their house but also the limit of their love. Now she have again crossed the threshold of his office this time. So does the other sentiment holds true too?

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fanktlk

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Posted: 8 years ago

#145

Originally posted by: gmgi
The episode was beautiful and disturbing all at once. When Dev told Ishwari that he can't be bound to any one or anything anymore it felt like a forewarning to expect the unexpected.Ishwari is terrified of course. The one person who still has any hold on this new avatar of Dev is coming back to their lives. When her hold on her son is no more how can she accept this approaching doom. If they gets back together there will be nothing that will hold Dev back. He himself confidently expressed that all his duties are done and dusted with. She tried to remind him of the pain Sonakshi caused to make him back down, but to no use.

The scene awaiting him at the office was of a different Sonakshi. She was a boss in true sense. He had always loved all the shades of her be it her ego, pride or anger. This was something new to him and he was rooted to the spot until Sona saw him. Sonakshi was prepared for the bully Dev who always used to get what he wants. But Dev stumped her just like he always does with his welcome and a handshake.

The fateful night Dev and Sona lost each other is etched in each others memories. Insult to her father was paramount in Sona's memories when she was asked the name to be put on the name plate. But for Dev he always remembered Sona rejecting his love and choosing her family's pride over him. So the name Sonakshi Bijoy Bose wouldn't have been pleasant to hear. It will always remind him of her choosing her father over him, of everything he lost.

Vicki even though miffed with Sonakshi had the presence of mind to not enter into a verbal tussle with her. He too recognized who was the boss there. And also Dev's reaction to the name was unexpected. So he wanted to navigate carefully and went to Dev to understand his reaction. Dev knew what Vicki wanted. He showed the indifference to the maximum wanting to get rid of Sonakshi at all costs. Vicki tried to bait Dev with his plan to remove Sona from the office. Dev was all for it, promising to give him everything if he succeeds. Now who actually baited whom and who took the bait will come out soon enough since Vicki have decided to move his queen in the match against the other queen. Will it be check mate?
P.S: After Sona left the Dixit house, Dev said she have crossed not only the threshold of their house but also the limit of their love. Now she have again crossed the threshold of his office this time. So does the other sentiment holds true too?

This is soo very interesting Geena.

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 8 years ago

#146

Thanks so much everyone, for your contributions here! It's been a delight to read everyone's views. Here is the link for this week's thread:

www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4795127

If there is an idea or post that you want to continue discussing, feel free to bring it over to the new thread.

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sjain

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Posted: 8 years ago

#147

Originally posted by: deepsel
Lovely post Sam and Rekha ! Something popped up after reading your posts and wanted to share here.

I am of course proud of Suha for her maturity and her self-righteous quality but is she not loosing her childish innocence faster? I mean she is just 6, every kid is allowed to have their fair share of mistakes and learning experiences from them . Why do I see a Dev in making? I mean Dev lost his innocence for responsibility and here Suha loosing it in the name of maturity. Is Sona expecting unknowingly too much from that tender shoulders?

Suha who wanted to stay with his father, immediately brushed it as joke after Bijoy's unexpected scream. Her wish to have a pic along with her momma's trophy is also compromised after her mom's explanation. Why that little child have to be so understanding all the time? I know Sona leaves the choices to Suha but is it not too early for that tiny heart to take mature decisions suppressing her desires? Has Suha started living a life to keep her Mom and Dida and Daadu happy no matter what? isn't this a life Dev lived throughout season 1 and lost everything in the end?

Dev had to go through this because of fate taking away his father but why Suha? I know am thinking beyond rational but Suha's speech on friday's episode is not of a 6 yr old. I have a 7 yr old myself and my eyes teared seeing Suha who is definitely missing of piece of her happiness in Dev which Golu is enjoying !

Being right all the time is not an achievement, correcting your wrongs and soaring even higher is !!

Very interesting your every word is what I feel

A 6 year old is 6 year old.. do not make her 60 please

expecting them to do right thing and react in most mature manner is so unreal for me

I dint have my own kids ATM and many of you who are parents here can explain it better but my simple idea here is..yes Sonakshi is single mothr her life world revolves around her she finds a friend companion support in her daughter..but always binding her with set of rights and wrongs is what I dont like at all..where is the balance here..Soha have certain guidlines told by Sonakshi and she acts reacts according to that..if someone bully's you give it back to them..ok accepting unfairness is wrong..but their are different ways of handeling it..either you can react like zsoha did instantly she went to her teacher and complained or she could have done what unknowingly sonakshi said if someone troubles you " dhakka de dena" or she could have warned golu strict told him not to do it otherwise she will complaint..and let the issue go..or soha could have ignored everything not bothering about it much and silently went back home..now here which one is perfect reaction like best mayure one..yes what Soha did she confidently went and complained..and honestly how a 6 year old can react she could have either pushed him and showed her anger ( which is very normal) I would have instantly understood her coz she is just a child..she is bound to make mistake or if not this then I would have also felt good if she had warned golu..instantly resolving isdue then and their..that also would have shown her smartness and softness..also later when teacher asked her to befriend him she said she doesn't want to because he bullied her yes fair enough because kids do at times gets little scared and upset and form opinion and thats why probably she refused..but when Golu said sorry and gave her his tiffin I expected her to smile forgiving him and atleast shaking hands with him..if kids gets angry in seconds they cool down even faster

Now where Golu is standing here ..he is living on his own to be honest in that house..I wont go in detail, he was angry that new girl has come to his class and he went and shared this BIG prob LOL with Dev..he had buddy convo eith golu telling him to teach her a lesson and Golu did it in THE most obvious way..yes I wasnt surprised..kids do steal or take pen pencil rubber of their fellow classmates to trouble them..they cant do anything bigger then that , kya AK 47 la kar Doha ko shoot toh nahi karta golu LOL..so he used his brain and smartly took her tiffin but in the end he was caught and he instantly gave in because students can not be smart in front of teacher he was guilty and he instantly gave his lunch he too could have refused saying I dont want to..kids are like that they react unpredictably but he didnt..

Now Sonakshi and Dev roles..well where Sonakshi has seen experienced an example of weak upbringing of Dev and Ishwari..and all the troubles she webbt through or everything Dev was like ..she was is now determined to not let Soha be like that ever..this the main and prime reason of why Sonakshi expects and wants Soha to take decisions on her own..I even pointed out in first episode when she said you choose ..Its good that she wants to put some sense of confidence giving her liberty to think..but I instantly had this thought ..is it a very sensible thing to do to let her decide..Does she understands the equation of the relationship her parents shared or does she realizes how complicated situation is and will be..No how can she..she is just a child..but here also she reacted showed 2 sides ..one she instantly decided to go and meet him and second she then quickly backed of displaying her sense of maturity..just how Sonakshi probably wanted her to..because it immidietely shook Sona when Soha said I want to go..she wasnt expecting it..and I questioned in my head then why you gave her choice ..their was no need..she couldhave explained her about her fathr and helped her form POV..because kids dont understand certain things and its complexities..this doesnt mean you are fooling them..when a child has either only mothr or only fathr..yes they do tend to understand things faster and its their parent's duty to let him/her have their share of e eruthi g to the fullest..Sonakshi loves Soha unconditionally their is no doubt but her sense to maker her , her pride and perfect is what is taking away quite a few inportant things from her childhood like you said another Dev is making..She is allowed to bully her classmates to trouble them a little to make mistakes to feel guilty to apologize to fight with friends to get angry to shout to be stubbourn..Their is nothing wrong in it..Sonakshi wants to prives she can be best mother thoes words of Dev haunts her like anything amd I completely frrl it..I would gave felt same but imore then her these words are affecting Soha's upbringing and her childhood

now with Dev he isnt Golus parent but lets igoner..his parents are utterly useless..his gurdian..is what Dev is..like I said Dev had uddy kind of Convo with him..man to man kind LOL..and golu did what he could and when he couldnt succeed and soha said his big cha is lier he felt a little bad and cane back rushing to Dev which is very okay..since he gave him the idea..and when prob wasnt solved he came..now here Golu looked innocent and weak..innocent as how kids do if they are not able to handle prob they go to an adult and ask them to solve it..and weak as he didn't know on his own as on what to do next..probably he couldnt think of sny counter attack his area of thinking is pretty much limited..he is not mature at all..rather a meek one here..so he instantly opted for help..I dont think him coming and asking for help shud make him feel shameful or incapable in any way..its Dev's duty to guide him in best possible way..keeping in mind that he is kid..dev sweetly accepted that ok he will come to his school to make him feel happy and cheer him up..thoigh his intentions might not be wrong but his certain reactions can be first when he said elena he is their for golu yes he is their and he should be but in certain things ypu have to be little careful..saying this in front of golu that yoo regarding studies is total no..I dont mind if he behaves like his buddy but switching roles at the time of need is equally necessary then.. about telling him that to postpone his homework next day if he loved golu uncondionally then he needs to bring some sincerety regarding studies ..he shudnt force him for anything or give him gyaan how padhai is required to get job in MNC matlab 20 saal baad ka future thing but should insert little things in his head regarding certain issues whether its padhai behaviour or anything else..It is very important ..and Dev is not right in this..Dev can be best fathe ever I can bet on that..but his idea of being free and not feeling burdened with anything is something .i feel gets reflected in his behaviur with Golu too..Now should he be blamed..yes..!!

Lastly A s much as golu needs Sonakshi I feel Soha needs her ddy more..ATM..to pamper and spoil her..Kids are still in the phase of growing up teaching them everything is not required they learn ALOT on their own..and bachpan is one phase ypu crave all ypur life to live it once again but can not ever!!

Very sorry I went too overboard with this freaking lecture oh sighh

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