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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia I don't *think* Saumee is saying Dev was speaking the truth in those last few moments on Friday. I am putting words in Saumee's mouth so I'll let her clarify. What I was agreeing with is that Dev said those things to himself knowing fully well what impact it will have on sonakshi. You will never agree with me on this (and we both know that's fine), but that day Dev was at his feminist best. Hear me out.
He was drunk. We have only seen him drunk twice before. When he is drunk he gets the guts to do the right thing. He reached a point where he gave up. He conceded defeat at the hands of his mother. Knowing sonakshi, he knows she is capable of dealing with this. This independence that she gains in season 2 is what he was immensely proud of. So he makes her go away from him and keeps convincing himself (he is after all his mother's son) that all these reasons make her a bad fit for himself and Dixits.

She is tired of it all too. And asha plays mamaji this time. Sonakshi doesn't even see why would Dev say all these things after she has signed the papers anyways. Because she had had enough too. And she does the final damage. Throws her mangalsutra in the fire.

When time allows, we should all watch the last 2 weeks' episodes after removing our Dev-is-a-spineless-jerk and sona-is-an-egoist-control-freak glasses. The writing was on the wall. Ever since the new year, both of them were more and more vocal yet getting no where and this is where it ended
Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12
Bravo Saumiee 👏 This is the best post I have read so far regarding the break up episode and how it justifies the leap !! I can very well say this is one of your personal best too !! How beautifully you have explained each dialogs with their future reactions !! Wonderful piece of writing.

Dev's anger and his harsh words in the end followed by his flirty avatar post leap is suddenly making total sense from your post. Thanks for bringing a new insight and a sudden excitement to watch next week's episodes😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tia.o

You know Saumie, since Friday I was reading a post on people saying that Dev said those harsh words to push Sonakshi away so that she can be happy.


I didn't think that made sense. Because Dev was not sober when he said those things. He was drunk and past examples has shown that he speaks what he believes is the truth when he is drunk. He also forgets every thing he said the next morning. Now I don't know if CV will remain consistent with their script.

Anyhoo, the point is that your post makes more sense to me.

Dev did say those things to Sonakshi and he meant it.

However what he said was the lowest blow anyone can give to a woman. Only a woman knows that how it feels when someone puts her self-respect, self-worth and her womanhood in question specially the man for whom she fought the world, her own family, her self-respect and put up with insults and humiliation.

Dev had done NOTHING in comparison to what Sonakshi had done for him.

One thing people kept bringing up as an example of Dev being a good husband is that he married Sonakshi despite knowing about her infertility. But by putting pressure on her for fertility treatment at his mother's whim when Sonakshi was at her own lowest point and her heart was broken, not to mention by throwing her infertility in her face, he even negated that little bit of claim at being a good husband.

So sorry when I can't call him a loving husband or even a decent human being.

He had the guts to love but he didn't have the guts to stand up for that love.

So whether he is flirting with other girls to show off or actually having full-blown affairs are least of my concern.

All I know that Dev can only offer a woman money (which he has plenty of and which is the only thing Ishwari doesn't disapprove as long as the charity stays outside. He can't offer a woman which Ishwari doesn't put her stamp of approval on) and those women want his money. So that is a perfect match.

Sonakshi and him were never a good match. What she needed, he didn't have Ishwari's approval to commit. Even his baby came with Ishwari's approval stamp as a condition. It was never Sonakshi and Dev's marriage, it was Ishwari's marriage enacted by Dev and Sonakshi.


If it happnes in real life, everyone would say that the only reason he married her was because he wanted to sleep with her. Once he got over that, he started pushing her to conceive within three months of marriage. But since Dev is the hot/ rich male lead, no one would even think about it.
He never spoke for her when didi-bhabee duo were hurling abuses at her but when to fight for her 10 day vrat to his God. The slap was not unintentional either. He then pushed her to his mom and blamed her. He wanted to slap her again!

One of my close friends cousin was married to a hot , super rich guy like Dev and she kept going back to him just like Sona. They are finally divorcing but his family made her lose her self respect. This girl is a highly educated professional who wanted to be a good bahu in his joint family. Her parents are educated middle class people just like Bijoy and Asha while the guy is filty rich. This is a typical battered woman supyndrome that they are going to glorify. Also, once you go back , the abuser becomes more abusive. Sona easily went back to him after the first break up, did not give him a hard time for basic stuff (like birthday fiasco, aunty , jhula isues) , that's why the himmat of both Ishwari and Dev kept increasing. I have only read the Wu for the later episdoes so my analysis may be a little off !

I think they are going to glorify Dev by making his character set Sona free and pretend to be a Casanova. They may even show that Dev helped her without anyone's knoweldge. I hate it but this is how they are goingbto redeem Dev's character in the show. I would hate it but i am preety shure that this is what is going to happen.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'd wait for Monday to reveal what Dev meant. But Dev tells the truth when he is drunk. Take the example of when Dev got drunk at Sonakshi's engagement night. What he said to Sonakshi was the truth as well what he said to his mother.

But even if I believe that he does the right thing, then he'd have said everything he said before Sonakshi rejected his proposal that "Mummy asked me to live separate, so let's leave separate". Not after Sonakshi refused to gamble any more on his words.

And if he truly wants Sonakshi to have a happy life without him, then he would stay far away from her. So if Saumie is correct which I think she is that Dev is showing off to Sonakshi that he has moved on and he can have other women, then what he really wants is to stay right in front of her eyes and wants her to be jealous. And if Dev truly did the right thing, then he is a man who respects women even less than before.

Either way, he didn't do the right thing, even now. Doing the right thing means either standing up for your love and fighting for their self-respect or letting your them go and let them live a fulfilled life without ever coming in front of them. He is doing the exact thing he did during Ritwik track with different strategy.

Then he used to stalk Sonakshi making it impossible to be happy with another man while he never stood up for her against his mother, now he is trying to grab her attention by flirting with other women hoping she'd get jealous and pay attention.

The intention remains the same and it is not the right thing.

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

Tia I don't *think* Saumee is saying Dev was speaking the truth in those last few moments on Friday. I am putting words in Saumee's mouth so I'll let her clarify. What I was agreeing with is that Dev said those things to himself knowing fully well what impact it will have on sonakshi. You will never agree with me on this (and we both know that's fine), but that day Dev was at his feminist best. Hear me out.

He was drunk. We have only seen him drunk twice before. When he is drunk he gets the guts to do the right thing. He reached a point where he gave up. He conceded defeat at the hands of his mother. Knowing sonakshi, he knows she is capable of dealing with this. This independence that she gains in season 2 is what he was immensely proud of. So he makes her go away from him and keeps convincing himself (he is after all his mother's son) that all these reasons make her a bad fit for himself and Dixits.

She is tired of it all too. And asha plays mamaji this time. Sonakshi doesn't even see why would Dev say all these things after she has signed the papers anyways. Because she had had enough too. And she does the final damage. Throws her mangalsutra in the fire.

When time allows, we should all watch the last 2 weeks' episodes after removing our Dev-is-a-spineless-jerk and sona-is-an-egoist-control-freak glasses. The writing was on the wall. Ever since the new year, both of them were more and more vocal yet getting no where and this is where it ended

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree with you. In real life, if this had happened to someone we love, we'd reach the same conclusion as you have reached. But because it's Shaheer acting as Dev, we are trying to find a small karnel of good intention to justify his behaviour. Let's say if Dev was played by say with say Shakti Kapoor look alike, the perception would change.

Originally posted by: baijubavra


If it happnes in real life, everyone would say that the only reason he married her was because he wanted to sleep with her. Once he got over that, he started pushing her to conceive within three months of marriage. But since Dev is the hot/ rich male lead, no one would even think about it.
He never spoke for her when didi-bhabee duo were hurling abuses at her but when to fight for her 10 day vrat to his God. The slap was not unintentional either. He then pushed her to his mom and blamed her. He wanted to slap her again!

One of my close friends cousin was married to a hot , super rich guy like Dev and she kept going back to him just like Sona. They are finally divorcing but his family made her lose her self respect. This girl is a highly educated professional who wanted to be a good bahu in his joint family. Her parents are educated middle class people just like Bijoy and Asha while the guy is filty rich. This is a typical battered woman supyndrome that they are going to glorify. Also, once you go back , the abuser becomes more abusive. Sona easily went back to him after the first break up, did not give him a hard time for basic stuff (like birthday fiasco, aunty , jhula isues) , that's why the himmat of both Ishwari and Dev kept increasing. I have only read the Wu for the later episdoes so my analysis may be a little off !

I think they are going to glorify Dev by making his character set Sona free and pretend to be a Casanova. They may even show that Dev helped her without anyone's knoweldge. I hate it but this is how they are goingbto redeem Dev's character in the show. I would hate it but i am preety shure that this is what is going to happen.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is all speculation so I could be wrong. I don't think the promo will play scene by scene. It's a promo. I doubt they will meet each other for a while.
I have a million and one questions on how they reached the stage they reach and I am hoping we will get flashbacks to backfill the story.

As for the casanova bit. Finally he made no promises on Friday. Last time when he was drunk on Sona ritwick date he made promises even in his drunk state. Not on Friday. Not to Ishwari and not to Sona. And he is living that life in season 2. He finally took sonakshi's advice. His mother can't tolerate a permanent woman in his life. His heart still beats for Sona (my theory). So he flirts. I see nothing wrong with making a woman feel better. They are consenting adults right. We might see dev and sona divorced. But even if they don't. She threw the mangalsutra in the fire. He is a free man from all angles. He can sleep with whoever he likes. In fact I hope he does and Ishwari finds out. Because the tagline is now on her. Kya paya kya khoya?

As for Sonakshi... she names their daughter suhana Bose. You see. There is no Dev and no Dixit there. But can she run away from his love? Suhana Bose is a living breathing reminder of Dev.

Saumee. I am sorry for hijacking your thread. Your title made me say all these things I had been holding since I saw the promo
Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful post...
You are so wise, the way you analyze with so much maturity. You weren't ranting, you were painting a beautiful picture of your ideas and interpertations.

Couldn't agree with you more on this - "When chosing a life partner don't see if you cannot live without him, see that you can live with him".

I never thought I will be so impacted by a fictional character. It was painful to see DevaKshi getting separated. Worst part was that both were saying hurtful words in anger. Sona was calling a Dev as looser, Dev saying Sona's inability to conceive. It was painful to watch.

Sona was always patient, never complained to Dev about Ishwari and his family or Dev's indecisions. This all started after she came to know that she can't become a mother. When you think you can't do anything about the situation, you will tend to take everything in a negative way. I don't think it because she had had enough in the Dixit house and she lost her patience. Just my POV because I can relate to this situation.

Marriage does not fail just because of external factors. Love is not enough. There should be trust, communication, adjustment, and no ego. If you realize your patner is not good at something, you take over and work on that. Lot of patience. Don't expect changes overnight.

I agree with you that Dev didn't say all those painful words because he wanted her to move on. I think, he said those because he saw his love not ready to give him a chance. He lost his trust in love. When we fight we say rude words which hurts your partner ..sometimes use words that hurts your partner though we don't really mean. Same thing Sona did, so is Dev ...saying Dev a looser, good for nothing, Saying Sona a gold digger, inability to concieve etc.

But do you break your relation just because of that. That means, your ego took over your love.

Lastly, wonderful acting by actors which made me feel their pain. Special mention to Shaheer Sheikh, his acting was so mooving, you could feel Dev's pain.

Keep up the good work, your post is something look forward to!!!

Looking forward to watch season 2 after seeing the new promo!
Edited by Jiyaaa..... - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Oh there's is nothing wrong in what Dev is doing. Agree with you there. He is a single man and provided those women are consenting adults, they can do whatever they want. Finally Dev has found women who are exactly compatible with him. And I hope Sonakshi has someone in her life who is compatible with her.

What bothered me though, when Sonakshi wanted to move on with Ritwik, people said she didn't love Dev and she was moving on when Dev was the example of fidelity.

Now when Dev is moving on with multiple women, he is doing it because he loves Sonakshi and his heart is broken and how Sonakshi is responsible for his condition.

This double standard is my problem. They don't owe each other loyalty. But A a woman moving on is her not being loyal and a man moving on is his being loyal? How's that even fair?



Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

This is all speculation so I could be wrong. I don't think the promo will play scene by scene. It's a promo. I doubt they will meet each other for a while.

I have a million and one questions on how they reached the stage they reach and I am hoping we will get flashbacks to backfill the story.

As for the casanova bit. Finally he made no promises on Friday. Last time when he was drunk on Sona ritwick date he made promises even in his drunk state. Not on Friday. Not to Ishwari and not to Sona. And he is living that life in season 2. He finally took sonakshi's advice. His mother can't tolerate a permanent woman in his life. His heart still beats for Sona (my theory). So he flirts. I see nothing wrong with making a woman feel better. They are consenting adults right. We might see them divorced. But even if they don't. She threw the mangalsutra in the fire. He is a free man from all angles. He can sleep with whoever he likes. In fact I hope he does and Ishwari finds out. Because the tagline is now on her. Kya paya kya khoya?

As for Sonakshi... she names their daughter suhana Bose. You see. There is no Dev and no Dixit there. But can she run away from his love? Suhana Bose is a living breathing reminder of Dev.

Saumee. I am sorry for hijacking your thread. Your title made me say all these things I had been holding since I saw the promo

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Posted: 8 years ago
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With ritwick it was actually quite simple. The bit that didn't sit right with many of us was that she was suppressing her feelings and committing to marry this decent guy without realising that she is actually using him. Atleast for me it was not about Dev. Dev broke up with her. She wasn't going to remain a nun was she? It has nothing to do with her love for dev (atleast from my point of view). People marry and still continue to love their first love. Ritwick didn't judge her and gave her that space. She was trying and trying hard to move on. The trouble was she wasn't being true to herself. She knew she wasn't ready for another man yet. It ended up as an embarrassment to the Boses,Sens and more importantly to a decent guy like ritwick
This is a very different scenario based on Friday and the promo. Dev is filling a void but making no promises. Atleast that's what his body language says. When he realised he loves sona, the first thing he did was went and told natasha. This is how much he respects love of a woman. I don't think he is flirting with women to prove his love for Sona. I think it's a coping mechanism. We and the dixits would all love for him to work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week and earn a few more crores. But you see as Saumee said, he is fooling himself (again his own mother's son) that he has "love" back in his life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i can see the main pt of confusion is that dev said those things because he meant them because he was drunk...but then everything that dev has said and done to sona since knowing her has to be a lie...

i mean dev repeatedly told her that he has no problem with her infertility...but still he blamed her today for not gving him a baby...
dev has always shown respect toward her profession i remember how he always used to introduce her to others not as my mom's nutritionist but as delhi's best nutritionist...still he ridiculed her profession today...

but again since he was drunk he meant those words...

how can both be true...wat i feel i am writing below...actually i am copying my own post that i hv made in my thread...

yes he said wat is in his heart or in other words wat is implanted in his heart by his mom...

for his entire life he has been brainwashed (by ishwari) to the core and just few months of sona's influence can hardly wash away those lifetime of manipulations by ishwari...

wat i mean is for 27 years ishwari's words hv been gospel for him...so today watever he told her r exactly those that ishwari said to him few moments back...in his drunken state he said those words not because he believed them but because he thot if ishwari said then they r true...

wat did he say...let me see...

1. she has married him for money (ishwari told him that she never trusted sona and so made the prenup papers)
2. she married him so that he will take care of financial needs of her brother and parents (ishwari told 2 episodes back that how he is becoming a member of bose family and is forgetting his own family)
3. she cannot become a mother and also she cannot become a good mother (ishwari made dev promise in the mandir to give her a grandchild)
4. she pretended to be a good bahu (ishwari told dev how she always doubted that sona cannot take care of him and his family)
5 she has broken his house (ishwari told dev how sona has never considered his family as her own family)

obviously he has realized as of now that sona has to go from his life...if choice comes down to staying separate from ishwari in another house with sona...then that choice he will never take...this is dev...he cannot leave his mom no matter if that is the only choice left to save his marriage...

since he knows his own weakness as well as ishwari's insane possessiveness about him so he decided to end it here for sona...he wanted to end the agony for sona...

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