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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia I am hopeful we will see a strong Sona a new and improved version of her. I also think we will see a stronger Dev
Sona believed in a fairy tale a fairy tale that she believed came true..but we make our own fairy tales they don't magically come true she has woken up to that hopefully😉

Dev thought he found love the kind which will stay no matter what but what he did not realize was that kind of love needs nurturing and support and does not stay just because it is Love

Love is a journey to your own fairy tale...wow I made that up 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia, a beautiful post. 👏

Amidst all these, I loved the fighter Sonakshi, she just wont give up, somehow I love that, but that is of no use when wasted on wrong people. 🤔 She is a late-learner.


Dev turns Casanova post leap, not sure how this would bring any 'progress' in the character. But yes, I am happy that he realized it was 'lust' for Sona and not 'love'. Just yesterday I was suggesting him to take help of other methods to take care of his hormones, and I was right 😃 ..


Although I am not sure when he meets his daughter, how he is going to face her. Being a casanova dad is really not cool you know. There is a saying 'The best thing a father can do to his children is to love their mother'. And in love, I count trust, respect, faithfulness, a sense of belonging - all of these. Take anything out of it, the relationship becomes void.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia🤗

I have been a silent admirer of you posts for say about 2-3 months. I never watched this show personally but did catch up on the updates. So really can't say much about performance wise, but character wise I have lot to say. 😳 Please let me use this wonderful thread to express my thoughts on this show.

I was quite saddened that you will not give daily posts after new year. I was kinda sad but girl you are back. Thankyou❤️

This is beautifully written! 👏👏 I am sure everyone would have told you this by now. 😆

Love has various connotations, and is the most wonderful feeling for a human! Being loved is itself beautiful and by that I mean in every relationship we/I share. Friends, parents, spouse, siblings and since I am a vet my love for animals😳

For me love is all about the freedom that it gives you, the confidence it gives you, the strength that it gives you. It also encourages you, makes you take stand, helps you differentiate between right and wrong and walk on your life with your principles and your dignity. Love never teaches you to be wrong, it never encourages you to cheat, it instead helps you walk on the right path, however tough it might be, it shows you mirror everyday. In my childhood and my teenage years, that job was beautifully done by my parents and my sibling. My values, my ideals, my principles. Since my father was always on postings in different cities for his job, you can say that my mother bought me up the way I am today, she taught me everything and I am very grateful to her. She gave me life, she raised me to be a better human, she taught me principles, she made sure I never missed my father when he was away, she played both roles with immense strength. She has such faith in her upbringing and her values, she knows that I will never walk the wrong path. She has even given me the right to question her if she is going wrong. She gave me the freedom to choose my relations, choose my friends and the day comes when I will fall in love she will understand my choice too. 😳She taught me to fly, make my choices, live my life according to my principles and my ideals, she made me who I am. This is what a mother is. Selfless and Unconditional support. We have had our share of fights, during my teenage years, my career choices but what always mattered to her the most was my happiness. That's what is a mother's love! Pure and soulful. ❤️ No wonder

Now when I compare Ishwari and my mother, its an insult to my mother or the fact any mother on this earth. So its cringe worthy to see what Ishwari does under the namesake of her so called motherly love with all her children. A mother can never ignore her children, she loves all equally. I was lucky enough that my elder sister was like another mother to me, because of our age gap. I am a bit extra pampered because I am the youngest, but my mother always loved us equally. My mother is diabetic now, on dialysis for her CKD. We don't care for our mother because its our duty, its the relation that I share with her. I have to sometimes be very strict with her regarding her diet and her medicines, her daily walks or exercise, sometimes I give in her demands. Thats because I understand the pain she is in, but that doesn't make me weak, that gives me more strength so I can convince her as well as me that everything is going to be okay. I am abroad for my education yet nothing has changed, our relation remains the same. I scold her, she does the same. So when I read the updates, it makes me puke thinking how come Dev is so helpless and weak, that's when I understand that Ishwari doesn't love him, she is his master and he her puppet. The makers have made a mockery of this pure relation. It pains me to see such a manipulative, sickening mother.😭😭 Probably because in my life I have not met such mothers.

I am not in love in real life, but when the day arrives, I know what to expect from love, what I want from that relationship, what I want in my future. What are my dreams, my aspirations and my stance. So I will doubly make sure that the one I marry ain't no Dev Dixit. 😆

I know I am not allowed to compare characters but another show from the same PH, and their the hero is feminist, loves his woman and his mother unconditionally. He loves his mother but not dances to her tunes. He even questions her decision sometimes, stood tall and mighty against the society for his love. He gave the woman he loved wings to fly, gave her the much needed confidence and made her embrace her new life. A love empowered woman! Now in the show the man lost his stability due to accident, and now the woman is doing all that he did for her, give him wings again to fly, give him the love and care and she is standing tall against society for him. So equality has been beautifully portrayed. It takes a lot for the man to tell the woman he loves, to move on in life if ever anything happens to him. He is mentally unstable, but she is still not able to move on. She has vowed to make him normal, get back to their lives. That's what love does.

In comparison when I read this show's updates, I wonder what is this relation that Dev and Sona share? Certainly not love. Lust maybe. I am not sure how to label their relationship status. For a relationship based on love, its not only romance and romantic lines, it's much more than that. There has to be respect, mutual understanding, mutual respect. There has to be intimacy, where you share your intimate details, you desires, you dreams and knowing that the person you love will always be there holding your hand, telling you to fight the odds, knowing if one partner falters the other will take care. In this relation, calling it love will be an insult to many couples who are actually in love. I have never seen a guy as weak and dumb headed like Dev. I have never seen a man as coward and spineless as Dev. So I fail to understand what is that Dev and Sona share? Can you please explain me?

PS- My parents had a love marriage and their parents had certainly not accepted it. My father's relatives used to taunt my mother, but she never stood there taking all the crap, she always gave it back, because she had got married and falling in love ain't no crime. My father always stood by my mother, but when my dad would leave for work, after that their taunts would start and my mother was no cry baby. She knew that my father will always stand by her. They started living separately. My father's family slowly started understanding my mothers value and finally accepted her. It was a long fight, but having your man with you gave her lot of confidence. I have never seen my father disrespect my mother, and would not anyone do it too. They fight with each other, yell at each other but certainly love each other. No wonder they completed 40 years of married life😳

PPS- Sorry for the rather long post and ranting. Had to get it out. What's being shown versus what is reality. So makers, a kind request don't keep on yelling about the show being realistic. Its not even 0.0000001 % close to reality.

Love,
Mayu
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sona deserves so much better. The problem is we can't help who we love, but she needs to learn that she doesn't have to put up with crap. Unfortunately she can't change Dev, he needs to change himself.

This is the only show where I've wished that the female lead doesn't take back her husband post leap, usually I always want the couple to get back together.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well I have a sudden thought now though 😳 Dev will get to know about Ishwari's pre-nup kaand and will be emotionally away from her I think that is what it means. However, he turns into a casanova, which means he still doesn't have an iota of regret that how wrong he did to Sona 😕. Just because he was wronged in an incident (and throughout life), that doesn't give free license to anyone to torture someone else and then not feeling sorry about it later.

So I anticipate/predict that there is a great chance we would never see Dev actually going through redemption/realizing his mistakes. He is going to dump all accusations on his mother instead and play the victim card now. Boohoo. Again he would throw tantrums on Sona for not 'understanding' how painful it was for him to become a casanova. 😭 The attitude and false pride is still not gone.


I wonder if the show will end like this only. 🤔
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Mayu - I feel it is all to do with Channel.Channel is the boss.Who decides what should be shown in the show.SP allowed the PH to show progressive n revolutionary thinking.Sony is not allowing to show the same in their show.All persons r different.I am not expecting Mamta to show the same in KRPKAB also.What I expected was.They could have shown Dev growing some spine.Man up.Stand for his wife against his mom n GKB.Sona having a strong confrontation with Ish N GKB.But all went in vain.I honestly.Lost all hopes in KRPKAB.Don't know what they r planning to show.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

@ Mayu - I feel it is all to do with Channel.Channel is the boss.Who decides what should be shown in the show.SP allowed the PH to show progressive n revolutionary thinking.Sony is not allowing to show the same in their show.All persons r different.I am not expecting Mamta to show the same in KRPKAB also.What I expected was.They could have shown Dev growing some spine.Man up.Stand for his wife against his mom n GKB.Sona having a strong confrontation with Ish N GKB.But all went in vain.I honestly.Lost all hopes in KRPKAB.Don't know what they r planning to show.


But is the channel such a dumb head that the TRP's are also not taken into account? 😲

The other show that I mentioned, even after forcefully married, she is back to claim her love since her hero is unstable. And the TRP is really great for evening slot")

So I feel pity for this show, high promotions, high hype and prime time slot and no TRP and story. 😭😭

I so wanted all this to happen that you mention.😳 In the other show the FL tells her so called husband that my lover knows I am his for eternity. Here Sona can't even convince that to her self that I am Dev's for eternity.😭😭 Such Irony, both shows by same PH.

I don't mean to compare but when I see both shows with such a stark variation, it makes me sit back and compare.😳

Maybe I am expecting too much from Dev and Sona😆 Ye Love vagaira inke bas ki baat nai hai😆

Love,
Mayu
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Both Dev and Sonakshi relied on each other to fulfill their fairy tales. Sonakshi expected Dev to complete her and Dev expected Sonakshi to fill the holes in his life.

Here's something I am going to say which might sound a bit strange. Never expect someone else to complete you. Be your complete self first. If you get the fairy tale love, then you will be more than you are alone. But when two people need each other to complete themselves, then they are less than a whole when they are not together.

I will give you an example. I got married when I was 29 years old, met my husband when I was 27. We all know how Indian society thinks about an unmarried woman in her late twenties. But I was very firm that I won't marry a guy until I am confident that everything I need from a relationship, I will get from him and I will be able to give him what he needs.

My husband proposed to me within a year of us meeting. But I took six more months to think about it. We got engaged one year six months after we met and six months from then, we got married.

But had I not met him, I still had a complete and fulfilled life. He just made my life a better experience.

My husband, when he met me, was 36. He was 38 when we got married. Like me, he was also a complete person on his own. I just made his life better.

We are each a complete person. Together we are more than a whole, not just a whole or less than a whole.

Bottom of the story, Sonakshi made herself less to make Dev to complete her. But that means your entire life, all of your happiness depend on someone else. That creates desperation to keep that person at any cost. And when you get desperate, you make compromises on things you can't afford to make compromises on and settle for bad options. That's exactly what happened to her.

Originally posted by: gemini54

Tia I am hopeful we will see a strong Sona a new and improved version of her. I also think we will see a stronger Dev

Sona believed in a fairy tale a fairy tale that she believed came true..but we make our own fairy tales they don't magically come true she has woken up to that hopefully😉

Dev thought he found love the kind which will stay no matter what but what he did not realize was that kind of love needs nurturing and support and does not stay just because it is Love

Love is a journey to your own fairy tale...wow I made that up 😉

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Mayu-


But is the channel such a dumb head that the TRP's are also not taken into account? 😲

The other show that I mentioned, even after forcefully married, she is back to claim her love since her hero is unstable. And the TRP is really great for evening slot")

So I feel pity for this show, high promotions, high hype and prime time slot and no TRP and story. 😭😭

I so wanted all this to happen that you mention.😳 In the other show the FL tells her so called husband that my lover knows I am his for eternity. Here Sona can't even convince that to her self that I am Dev's for eternity.😭😭 Such Irony, both shows by same PH.

I don't mean to compare but when I see both shows with such a stark variation, it makes me sit back and compare.😳

Maybe I am expecting too much from Dev and Sona😆 Ye Love vagaira inke bas ki baat nai hai😆

Love,
Mayu



I like that show.I watch the show.I know the story of the show.Honestly I though it will go typical soap route.When it did not go.I was so glad. That it did not go HDDCS way or typical soap route.Vividha was not shown falling in love with her husband to whom she was blackmailed to marry.She is still in love with her lover.Made her stand clear n loud in front of her husband family.Atharv is my most fav.Tellywood Hero.Male feminist.Which is so rare to see.Also Atharv N Sujatha bond is not like typical soap mom n son bond.It reminds me of my bond with my mom.Such a friendly bond.I still remember.How Sujatha in a fun way beaten him with broom.After he challenged that he will marry Vivi n said to Sujatha she loves her.😆 This KRPKAB forum.I am going on on by JNDSD.I need to stop it.Otherwise MODS will give warning to me.

@Red - I don't like comparisons.But it's so hard to resist to compare both the shows.When it's from same PH.How Vivi boldly said to her dad.That she loves Atharv.I still can't forget how she slapped Atharv for holding her dad's collar.When it was not Atharv's mistake.The equality marriage vows.Showed how Atharv thinking is progressive.Atharv is like breath of fresh air among typical ML's.Vivi is not typical sacrificial lamb bahu.


@Blue - After seeing SP show.Even I expected more from Dev N Sona.Then I understood.All characters cannot be same.But wished at least.They will grow.Like how Vivi character grown.I expected.When the day comes.Dev will stand against Ish.Sona will show mirror to Ish ,Dev N GKB.Will walk out from the house head held high.But CV's went in diff route.Which disappointed me.Now I will watch KRPKAB just to see how will show progress after leap n how will it end.


Sony set of audience r different.In old rating system.Only BALH had 2+ ratings.All Sony show ratings r always between 0.7-0.9 range.Only Mytho N Historical shows in recent times had 2+ ratings.Now Super Dance N TKSS had 3+ ratings in non-fiction category.I seriously have no idea.Why this 7 years leap n showing Dev as Casanova .When without leap.They could have taken the show further.Lets see.What happens after leap n will they get 1+ ratings.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Tia I think both of us are saying the same thing albeit differently. We make our own destinies ,we first need to be comfortable in our skin ..my husband and I have this policy we each get alone time a time where we just do our own thing..our tastes in music are different but I go to Carnatic music concerts just like he comes to ghazal ones with me because we love each other. So we can do things to please others because we love them but need not lose our identity in the process...in this story so far Sona lost hers and Dev was not able come past his identity of being Easwari son...so how are they going to make a fairy tale.
Just because I feel hopeful about the new track does not mean I like the way Sona or Dev characteristics are portraye d or in reality I would be a Team Sona ...or a team Dev😉


Great story of yours God bless you both with lifetime of happiness


Originally posted by: tia.o

Both Dev and Sonakshi relied on each other to fulfill their fairy tales. Sonakshi expected Dev to complete her and Dev expected Sonakshi to fill the holes in his life.

Here's something I am going to say which might sound a bit strange. Never expect someone else to complete you. Be your complete self first. If you get the fairy tale love, then you will be more than you are alone. But when two people need each other to complete themselves, then they are less than a whole when they are not together.

I will give you an example. I got married when I was 29 years old, met my husband when I was 27. We all know how Indian society thinks about an unmarried woman in her late twenties. But I was very firm that I won't marry a guy until I am confident that everything I need from a relationship, I will get from him and I will be able to give him what he needs.

My husband proposed to me within a year of us meeting. But I took six more months to think about it. We got engaged one year six months after we met and six months from then, we got married.

But had I not met him, I still had a complete and fulfilled life. He just made my life a better experience.

My husband, when he met me, was 36. He was 38 when we got married. Like me, he was also a complete person on his own. I just made his life better.

We are each a complete person. Together we are more than a whole, not just a whole or less than a whole.

Bottom of the story, Sonakshi made herself less to make Dev to complete her. But that means your entire life, all of your happiness depend on someone else. That creates desperation to keep that person at any cost. And when you get desperate, you make compromises on things you can't afford to make compromises on and settle for bad options. That's exactly what happened to her.

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