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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: tia.o
You are absolutely right. Brilliant analysis.
I wrote in response to one of the comments in my yesterday's post this morning before today's episode aired.

Ishwari wants everyone to be helpless in her absence to maintain her importance. But a parent should do exactly the opposite. The purpose of a parent is to make their children independent so that they can be on their own when they are no longer alive. No one's parents live forever.

Even birds push their young from the nest so that they can learn to fly. It is the rule of the nature.

Ishwari is completely unnatural mother.

I also had said back when she tried to commit suicide that if Dev was a really good son, he will take his mother to a psychiatrist instead of dancing to her whim and breaking up with Sona.

If you notice today that Ishwari lies to herself so extensively that she is starting to believe her own lies. And because she thinks that she is doing the right thing, she is starting to lose her conscience.

It is textbook signs of Borderline Personality Disorder where a person is obsessed with something or someone and can go to any length to keep that thing or person to themselves to the point that they can commit crime all the while convincing themselves that it's for their own good.

The show Beyhad is showing the extreme case of that mental disorder.

Google it if you want to know more about it. You'd think that you are reading about Ishwari.

Exactly.

I did read about BPD and it really felt like it described Ishwari perfectly.Whether the CVs will take that route,don't know because a huge percentage of Indian audience would not accept the possibility of such a disorder.They would still call it insecurity due to lack of awareness and inability to acknowledge the existence of such problems.This is a disorder which needs treatment.Just because it is not an extreme case like in the show Beyhad and Ishwari won't cause physical harm doesn't mean that it is not a disorder.I don't know why people believe that such disorders only exist if physical harm is involved.

But going by how the character is being portrayed,I won't be able to accept if the Cvs redeem Ishwari and deal with her as a normal insecure mother.Because she's clearly not and the show has depicted that time and again.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: mena_k
First and foremost, excellent post.

If the cv's and PH are really going to stick to mental disorder and treatment thereof, I must say it would be the first ever path-breaking show on Indian television. Would they dare to do so is yet to be seen.

Everything they have shown till date and now about Ishwari as to what she feels about her son is not normal by any definition. Putting it under insecurity is certainly again side-lining the real mental issue that this lady has like many cases in India of various kinds. In real life having such a mother and MIL, every time lead the marriage to divorce, no exceptions there. This in India. Abroad people understand and acknowledge mental issues do exist and they go for proper treatment to get better. But alas, here people try to hide things as much as possible. No one dares to tell the truth, acceptance is don't even think about it.

If the same character is replaced by a GF/BF/husband/wife I tell you its a blockbuster movie idea and people would love to watch it too. But mother, it would be hard to digest. Not limited to urban or rural area or the education per say. If someone talks of mental health problems, everybody else would look at you as something is wrong with you only. I just hope cv's don't make it an overnight change of heart and boom we get loving and caring Ishwari, because that just doesn't happen anywhere.

Track looks interesting. High hopes from cv's.

@bold:Exactly! In India people will find any excuse or reason to deny the existence of mental disorder when in reality it does exist in a lot of cases and treatment is possible only if they accept that it is a problem.Unfortunately even most of the educated people don't acknowledge such problems in India.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: sjain
Well we saw what happened today..

Whether Cvs r planning any mental disorder for her or not ..this has to be seen but yeah ..Mothr's do feel so ..woh "loss" wali feeling aati hai ..but koi situation ko maturely accept kar leti hain ..some can't ..some adjust and compromise..and some gets creepy and disturbed like Ish..

I am trusting CVs..😆

@ bold:And that behavior is exactly what mental disorder is.We just fail to give it the correct name and accept its existence.A lot of people do suffer from such disorders and it requires treatment.It doesn't go away with time.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: Pehchaan.Kaun
I dont know what to reply here anymore - all of your have said it all ⭐️

This is not a very unusual case, 2 of my friends do have such MILs and I'm sure there are many ! I am glad the show is highlighting this ! The cupboard key scene was so damn well executed. In real life also this is exactly how it happens when it comes to sharing the important things with the DILs, and the MILs do it so well that it almost seems like they have rehearsed it since long and just delivered a perfect offensive (here used as opposite of defense) shot like today Ishwari 😳

I am kind of at loss of words, I'm just glad to have a well-mannered and educated MIL in my life. Here Ishwari's endless try to stop Sona getting closer to Dev is scary 😲 The sad reality is MILs do want to join the couple even in their honeymoon trips and I have seen many people cancelling their honeymoon due to that. Ishwari might be having a mental disorder, but so does a considerable percentage of MILs in India, this isn't a standalone case at all.

So perfectly agreed with the analysis of Ishwari's ruse words to Sona by taunting her about sleep and almost threatening her till the point she breaks down. This does happen everywhere that if MIL is not happy, the whole house is turned upside down. It becomes almost like a criminal offense for the other people at home specially the son/s and the DIL/s to have a healthy happy life if Mommy is having a bad day. Today just that happened and soon even Dev is going to be in the receiving end of some taunts where the couple would literally start feeling guilty for loving each other
These days I am happy with the show except for the DB part. Glad she is leaving! 🥳

@bold:I agree.May be that's why it becomes even more important to show it for what it is than simply treating it as normal insecurity..

@pink:Yes and Ishwari has done that earlier as well during the chulha drama.She was unhappy so she made the entire house unhappy.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: rose4ever

@ bold:And that behavior is exactly what mental disorder is.We just fail to give it the correct name and accept its existence.A lot of people do suffer from such disorders and it requires treatment.It doesn't go away with time.

I would still give benifit of doubt ..nd wont say it a mental disorder ..so yeah will rather wait and watch to see ..where it goes

for some reason ..I dont want to reach conclusion..cvs have always come up with something unpredictable

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