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Posted: 5 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Cute_Virgo

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@TM: Prerna decided for herself who her soulmate is going to be and she is happy with her choice. So who cares what Anurag deserves. Jab miyan biwi razi to kya kare qazi 🤷‍♀️


TOPIC MAKER: The portrayal of itv males and their glorification is extremely problematic and toxic and mostly comes off at the cost of the female representation we have.

COMMENTS: HE'S HOT. THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

Topic maker: How did I forget I live in the world of Kabir Singh.🤔


Thank you so much for your contribution. She really DOES want him in that pic.👏

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Posted: 5 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: hope4u

The crux of the matter here is that anurag does not "deserve" prerna since he objectifies her or does not regard what she feels? Keeping aside any contra argument to this point, I would just like to point out that saying anurag does or does not "deserve" prerna is itself a way of objectifying a person. One doesn't get to decide who deserves or doesn't deserve a person for the simple reason that people are not trophies or awards which go to the deserving candidate.

Prerna as of today loves anurag and anurag loves prerna. They deserve to be happy. And if their happiness lies with each other, then so be it.

Again, you have completely MISSED THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION. This IS NOT ABOUT who Prerna chooses to end up. This is about the extremely problematic portrayal of male leads on ITV. The glorification. Does Anurag really deserve Prerna isn't really about asking her whom she chooses. Because when she'll choose/who she will choose, it will be ABOUT HER.This is about Anurag's thinking pattern. This is about him repeating time and again how HE *DESERVES* HER. SO HE SHOULD GET HER. And if you don't think that robs her of HER agency...

also addendum cos I actually completely agree with what you said @ bold. That was the whole point of using that title.

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

OH. ONE LAST THING.

Since MOST people missed it.

The title is really a play on Anurag's own words. Because HE TIME AND AGAIN keeps saying *I DESERVE HER* and as many of you rightly pointed out the statement itself is problematic. So thank you for that.smiley36

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Posted: 5 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

i completely agree with this post.....these are word to word my emotions tooo.....anurag is too much of me, me as of now.....he doesnt even respect her asking her not to touch her and show respect to her marriage .....this marriage was never there for him from the start....it doesnt matters to him if she wants to be in this marriage or not.....its just that he doesnt want her in the marriage and he wants to free her for himself. He is never bothered to find how and why the marriage happened....what mattered to him was that prerna and bajaj sleep at different places......first he accepted the gold digger thing she told....now he tries to get sympathy by telling her that she has left him for some kami and he will improve that. This is hell of ignorance on the whole basu clan part i feel.....nobody is able to crack why she has done it. Kitna mushkil hain.....anurag jiska business bajaj overtake karne waala tha ....achanak se bajaj backed off....the video which achanak se come to save anurag is from bajaj factory but nobody even thinks about it. But i also feel prerna is too linient on him and thats also the reason for his current behaviour......had prerna jerked off his hands from her and told him to back off in a loud voice.....he wouldnt have the guts to make her fall and then catch her in his arms. Her going weak in front of him also encourages his behaviour. Though ya he doesnt even care about that she is going weak....that he is making her cry....he just need the asssurance for himself that she still loves him....baaki woh kitna hurt ho rahi hain.....that doesnt matter. And anurag uses her weak moments to gloat in front of bajaj...which is more ridicuous.

Anurag can't put 2 and 2 together cos he's TOO BUSY licking his wounds and doing his ME MINE MYSELF. 😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: ifmember

@TM:

As others said, the day Prerna rejects Anurag from her heart, and stops loving him, and he keeps pursuing her like an obsession, we can talk about this.

I'm SORRY. DID YOU NOT READ THE TOPIC. or DID YOU NOT READ THE TOPIC?

Also thank you for telling me that a guy has the *right* to hound you/emotional tax you/gaslight you/guilt-trip you/abuse your emotional labor/cross the physical boundaries you set/constantly ignore your mental state and requests, because *HE THINKS* he has a right on you and because you love him.


Please don't bother quoting me again.🤔

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: shrutiraina007

Another post for Anurag. smiley36

Hamara ladka chaya hua haismiley36

On a serious note, yes I think Anurag deserves Prerna.

He sees her every day in front of her and he isn't blind to see how unhappy she is in the marriage. The reason he isn't backing off is because he can clearly see on her face that she still loves him. The only time there's a even slight smile on her face is when she is with Kuki.

I don't agree with your analysis to the kitchen scene. It was not about Anurag’s "ME ME ME". My POV, he was talking about all those memories just to open his heart out, nothing else. He can't talk about how Prerna feels, he can only express how he does.

Anurag doesn't know what happened that Prerna left him at the altar. He doesn't know that she did a deal to save his life and freedom. So you can't expect him to act sane after a heartbreak where he didn't even get closure. His mind is still playing with him to understand any reason of why whatever happened, happened to him. And he will do that till he knows the truth. And not knowing is what making him act out. The only thing that disappointed me of him is the car accident planning. Putting his life at stake (Though he didn't wanted it to get that far but it's not something that he can control) for framing someone else, isn't justified at all.

All the lines that he said was to tell Prerna one thing cause she asked him "Baar baar ye sab kehte hue thak nahi jaate". What he wanted to tell her was that he only loves her and will always do. He told everything that lead upto it for him, he didn't know when he fell in love with her but now when he does, he can't stop it. When he said that his mom had so many girls for him but her tasveer was the only one he had at heart, he just wanted to say that no one can replace her in his life. She is the only one for him. Only one with who he dreamt of having a small world. /When he asked her what's wrong in him that she doesn't like. He will change whatever he wants. Why can't she see the love he has for her? At this point he is again trying to reason out why she left him.

And he does care about her. That's why he keeps asking

"Tumhari aankhon main yeh aansun kyun hai?"

"Tumhari aankhon main itna dard kyun dikhta hai?"

"Please apne aap ko matt roko. Apne dil ki suno"

These are not the lines said by someone who is forcing his feelings on her. It's someone who can see the pain she is in and trying to make her accept what her heart wants.

I'm not saying Anurag doesn't have his vices. He is imperfect. He does mistakes. He also lets people down. He isn't able to handle this emotional trauma he is in. On top of that, from his POV he sees Bajaj only as a threat who just feels happy in seeing him getting destroyed. And now that Bajaj has accepted that as well, Anurag for sure isn't going to back off. True, it is a pissing contest between Anurag and Bajaj right now and I feel bad for Prerna that she is in the middle of it. But one thing can't be denied, Anurag loves Prerna. He cares about her and can't see her in pain. Obviously, it's going to break him down if she sheds tears in front of him.

Bold 1: Anurag and Anurag stans have quite a pattern here.😆

Can you not see the problem in your own reply? Do you not realize how each paragraph all you've said is what HE THINKS. What went wrong with HIM. What he deserves. What he's justifying. HIM. AND HIM. AND HIM.

Bold 2: Okay. Let's say you're right. Let's say Anurag is doing all of this so he can *help her* come out of whatever problem she is. So she can tell him whatever's the problem.

But then as I've pointed out in other discussions. Why gloat to Bajaj? Why tell her how his mom chose 50 girls for him but he chose her. Why tell others Prerna took insults from his mom to get to him but NEVER address the emotional/mental/physical abuse his mother puts her through? He hardly blinks when Mohini blames Prerna nowadays. All he does is cajole her.

Tell me another thing okay. So Bajaj confesses to Anurag. And Anurag WHO IS SOOOOOOOO CONCERNED ABOUT Prerna. What does he do? He further eggs him. Someone for whom Prerna and her safety should be the first priority, shouldn't he be careful with what he's doing? Anurag doesn't know Bajaj will not harm Prerna. So shouldn't his thinking pattern be like: Prerna is in danger. I shouldn't trigger Bajaj because this can somehow indirectly go back to her too. AND I SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT validate myself in front of Bajaj BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO. Because what transpires btw me and Prerna is btw US. It's personal. I don't have to gloat to him to prove our love. I need to understand why Prerna is stuck in this marriage.

Second point. He is so sure she loves him yet he keeps asking for validation again and again. He's so sure that this marriage isn't normal to the point where he's been a legitimate peeping to make sure yet he demands of her to WALK BACK TO HIM. To come back to him. Wouldn't a person think, if somebody is forced they might not really have a lot of options?

Anurag's priority should be Prerna's mental and physical safety, her comfort, her health.

But those things hardly matter.

And the lines you've mentioned. I'm sorry but each time he's used them to fulfill his own agenda and validate himself later to Bajaj so what does it even matter then?


Most people missed my point. So at the behest of reiterating her, the past week the writers of this show objectified Prerna and used her as a plot point and crutch between Anurag and Bajaj. Not only that, the writing has been extremely male centric, chauvinistic and problematic. And if you cannot see that, we have nothing to talk over.

HERE ARE TWO MEN. WHO THINK THEY KNOW BEST. WHO THINK THEIR WAYS ARE BEST. WHO LITERALLY IGNORE THE FEMALE'S AGENCY AND EMOTIONAL STATE OF MIND BECAUSE *their methods are best* and *they know best*

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Posted: 5 years ago
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When Anurag realized that there is nothing like pati patni between her and Mr.Bajaj, even for once, did he ever ponder as why she married him and why she is still stuck to him when their relation is nothing like pati patni, what could be her majboori ,, did he ever try to ask her or try to understand by himself ?

NO , NOT once, all his words were, she is mine, I want you, i love you, tum meri ho , we are soulmates, we shd be together .. not once he self pondered or asked her "WHY"

last week is all about emotional manipulation by reminding her every past incident and making her vulnerable and slip into the moments of past ..he wants to win her but why what ways.. instead of these tricks he could have actually thought for a moment to know the reason for her marriage .. there are clues.. Prerna met Bajaj to get proofs.. Mohini told it loud and clear .. but not once he thought on those lines ... he wants to get her by "hook or crook" just that he didn't voice it ... but he is justified as emotional manipulations have no proofs so sab maaf .

Their LOVE, they both float with the feeling of "being in love" , they are physically passionate, but is that all you need ? yess when everything is rosy it's the best thing, but when trouble strikes ...they are apart

If their love was strong or they had trust and communication -- NO komolika or NO Bajaj would separate them, but .. their love comes across weak, which is why they easily pave way for 3rd person to separate them ... they don't communicate, they don't trust each other enough to confide, it's all about her claiming him or him claiming her in the name of LOVE

If he does something wrong she covers it up because "dil ka bura nahin hai"

hence I think, they both deserve each other !


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Posted: 5 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

I'm SORRY. DID YOU NOT READ THE TOPIC. or DID YOU NOT READ THE TOPIC?

Also thank you for telling me that a guy has the *right* to hound you/emotional tax you/gaslight you/guilt-trip you/abuse your emotional labor/cross the physical boundaries you set/constantly ignore your mental state and requests, because *HE THINKS* he has a right on you and because you love him.

Please don't bother quoting me again.🤔

OHH, I VERY WELL READ JUST THE TOPIC.

Quoting you to let you know that Your reply says a lot of baseless things 💁and I am not interested in having meaningless conversations😆

I believe you won't quote me again .

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: KamikazeKinght01

Omg! So long post!! I didn’t read it fully.. So basically am just answering your ques here... Not going into much details. Coz neither I am a regular viewer nor I am too much connected with AnuPre this time. But wheneevr i watch kzk i wont lie but I really feel Anurag's love for Prerna. Yes, he's stupid and obsessive and kiddish and dont know what to say.

The best point of YOUR post (as long as i have read) is, if he believes her so much then why not he's getting it that Pre has married baj forcefully!! Good point. Even it confuses me WHEN he says she's mine, she's mine. Arey, bas karo bhai! But again, isn’t he running behind her because he knows she has married baj for some reasons? Cvs are crazy.. They are neither establishing 'she's mine' nor 'she's forced to marry bajaj'.

About worthness... Well, Anurag do deserve Prerna... In short... Over all the stupidness he has done till date he still deserves her. Becaue his love is not like i want to get her type and neither he will stop lovibg or caring for her after he gets her. He's obsessive but also his love not only stubbornness. Idk about future.. But right now, yes he deserves her.

Even Pre desreves both Anu n Baj.

Baj deserve Pre also.

More than what you have done it depends on what will you do when you will have your desired partner... And in this case these three are just doing fine.

When I question does Anurag deserve Prerna I actually question the problematic male centrality of the statement. I DESERVE HER. Is something he keeps saying A LOT in the show. It's something he keeps acting on in the show. And the point is *I DESERVE X, Y, Z* is a pretty problematic statement to make in the first place. And I guess most people have completely missed the point and title of the topic.🤣
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.


TOPIC MAKER: The portrayal of itv males and their glorification is extremely problematic and toxic and mostly comes off at the cost of the female representation we have.

COMMENTS: HE'S HOT. THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

Topic maker: How did I forget I live in the world of Kabir Singh.🤔


Thank you so much for your contribution. She really DOES want him in that pic.👏

Where did I call Anurag hot or justify his actions. I just said who Prerna wants🤔

And yes she decided who she wants and gave RIGHTS, that a woman would, only to him only. Her choice!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

When Anurag realized that there is nothing like pati patni between her and Mr.Bajaj, even for once, did he ever ponder as why she married him and why she is still stuck to him when their relation is nothing like pati patni, what could be her majboori ,, did he ever try to ask her or try to understand by himself ?

NO , NOT once, all his words were, she is mine, I want you, i love you, tum meri ho , we are soulmates, we shd be together .. not once he self pondered or asked her "WHY"

last week is all about emotional manipulation by reminding her every past incident and making her vulnerable and slip into the moments of past ..he wants to win her but why what ways.. instead of these tricks he could have actually thought for a moment to know the reason for her marriage .. there are clues.. Prerna met Bajaj to get proofs.. Mohini told it loud and clear .. but not once he thought on those lines ... he wants to get her by "hook or crook" just that he didn't voice it ... but he is justified as emotional manipulations have no proofs so sab maaf .

Their LOVE, they both float with the feeling of "being in love" , they are physically passionate, but is that all you need ? yess when everything is rosy it's the best thing, but when trouble strikes ...they are apart

If their love was strong or they had trust and communication -- NO komolika or NO Bajaj would separate them, but .. their love comes across weak, which is why they easily pave way for 3rd person to separate them ... they don't communicate, they don't trust each other enough to confide, it's all about her claiming him or him claiming her in the name of LOVE

If he does something wrong she covers it up because "dil ka bura nahin hai"

hence I think, they both deserve each other !


Apparently that is him helping her. It's the way to go! Also if you love someone and they love you, please don't consider their stands and especially don't listen to them if they say no or ask for distance or BASICALLY say anything. Their comments are irrelevant. Just do whatever you want as long as they come to you in the end. 👏


I think the question or the statement *X deserves Y* is pretty problematic in itself. But I guess the point of that title missed its mark completely.🤣

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