Originally posted by Carmilla
:The Gods envy us. They envy us because we're mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. | Homer, Iliad:
This rare quotation is not just beautiful, but deeply and tragically philosophical. The relationship between the Greeks and their Gods was unique, compounded of awe, fear and familiarity alike, for their Gods, bar the blessing (or curse) of immortality, shared the virtues and the vices of mortals.
I was recently reading a comparison between Greek Mythology and Indian mythology and the similarity between them , there are some striking ones indeed. One being the character of Indra and Zeus , their powers , follies and assault of women . Gods and Goddesses inbreeding with humans and openly interacted with them on a regular basis.
Hi fellow Karnsanginians , I'm Gargi . * Waves * 😳 I suck at introductions , and I rock in skipping parts where I suck ! 😆
So, introduction over ! 😃Sidhe mudde pe aate hai ! 😉
Kanasangini : Finally I got time out of my hectic schedule to catch up with the episodes properly and I've to say , I did so with great trepidation in the beginning . I'm not a Karna fan , I've objection to the word fan , seems kind of superficial to me in comparison to what I feel for Suryaputra . I worship him. From childhood. 😳
So with this kind of personal emotional attachment , you also become jittery and anxious related to every thing associated with him, no matter if it's even a tv show it has his name associated with it . My Aradhya's name , my Arya's name . I can not keep calm , I confess . I felt like some one extremely dear to me is giving a test. I feel involved.
We find infinite excuses to evade anxiety inducing situations , "triggers" as long as feasible. I did just that . People ran away from sugar tests and evade going to the doctor all the time. Ostrich technique.
Aashim , Kingshuk and Tejasswi looked very promising in the promo . But I still couldn't bring myself to watch the show without hearing a little bit of feedbacks from my sister and fellow forum members first. It was very positive , which encouraged me to watch the show marathon fashion.
Already people gifted with eloquence of expression and fluidity in words and observation have done a great job in pointing out very many nuanced aspects about the show , but when it comes to good things , more is less ! :D
Don't fish, kid! 😉No one can fault you for any lack under the heads of eloquence of expression, fliuidity in words, or observation. You have all these, and then you have the most important thing of all: passion. You remind me often of a wilful, unpredictable Arabian filly, racing breathlessly towards a distant goal.
It's your affection talking , Auntie. 😉
I'm passionate for a cause is all that I'll say. but I really mean it that with such atlented writers on board , it's really challenging to bring some thing new to the table.
The show :
I must say I'm very impressed with the show. It has great repeat value content wise. It can be and should be watched by general mytho loving viewers , heck, in fact any general tv viewer. It is capable of providing them the joy they deserve to enjoy for giving their time to the tv screen. I've already started recommending it to my friends proudly , secure and confident in the quality , presentation and compactness of the script and how well directed , well shot it is ! A visual joy ride . <33 👏
I have been too often disappointed by shows that are oh so promising to begin with, but then sink into mediocrity or worse, to rejoice so soon, but I am modestly hopeful.
Tab ka tab dekha jayega , let's just focus on enjoying for now. 😉
The casting : In a one week old show , it's simply not possible to do justice to all the characters introduced till now, since there are many characters and all of them are well known ones. 😳
But I'm very happy and really really impressed with the leads Aashim and Tejasswi our Karn -Uruvi , Arjun , Kunti , Duryadhan , Bhishma.
I need to see more of Karna's parents , Shakuni , Dushyashan , Gandhari , Bhishma etc. to give an opinion.
You have included Bhishma under two heads! He really belongs with the second lot. I personally don't need to see more of Dusshasana, Gandhari, or even Karna's parents. The conflict between him and them is already over and done with. His mother reminds me of Leela Misra, the eternal aunt in old Hindi films. His foster brother is plain irritating.
I love the tall imposing presence and calm voice of Bhishma 😳 , but the verdict is still not out on him, we need more data for it.
Aashim is not even trying to follow the previous versions of Karna . I'll give him that and I'll say Kudos 👏. He's carving out a fresh niche for himself. He's making it clear that he's not stepping into any one's shoes , but making new shoes for himself , from raw leather , then wearing it and strutting it . Great job for the first week , with some scenes rising above great to become exceptional , with little improvisations , subtle gestures , how much he brings to the table with his body language , his carriage and his eyes , which are piercing like arrows as one of the Uruvi's Saheliya so aptly put. He's full of restraint which is good because most actors tend to overkill it. We're in for paisa vasool and some more here , folks !
Now here, I am going to choose prudence over candour. After all, I was trained to be a diplomat all my working life, and such deeply ingrained habits die hard😉. Besides, I don't want to upset you. So I shall merely say that it is a great pity the makers didn 't try to get the ultimate Karna, who is wasting his talent playing Vikramaditya.
I don't think of Aham as ultimate Karna . No one can be Karn other than Karn himself ! But yes others can strive to portray him some what well . Aham did a very authentic and remarkable stint as Karn , no one can question that. But I've full faith that Aashim will be an iconic Karn just like Aham and will be remembered for his portrayal.
Why say waste Auntie ?? You're not liking the show "Vikram Vetaal " ??
Another actor , I'm pleasantly surprized how much I'm impressed with, is Kingshuk's Arjun , who's simply great I must say. 👏 I'm really happy ki sadak se koi chindi sa Arjun pakad ke nehi le aya .
He's full of fresh sparkle , with great ease in a mythological role, and one that of Arjuna ! Effortless and gorgeous in each and every single frame . Carefree , proud , conservative , yet flirtatious and noble. Full marks to Kingshuk. 👏 He's easy on the eyes too. 😉
Yes. This is the first time I am seeing him, and he fits the bill perfectly. Carelessly confident in his superiority over all others, a tad arrogant, but not the kind to wantonly hurt anyone. He reminds me of the kind of rich kid who would rev up a 16 cylinder Lamborghini at 10 pm in a quiet street, and rejoice in the roar of the motor.
Great comparison. 😆😆 I'm glad you agree with me in this regard.
It was expected from Tejasswi that she'll fit the bill perfectly as the feisty yet feminine Uruvi and she rose up to that expectation. A face that reminds you of fairy tales and historicals automatically , a face that holds both beauty and power and feminine grace , each in equal quantity and a maturity that is complimented by innocence , she takes on the titular role with easy confidence and determined vigor . Superb casting to say the least. Within 2 minutes flat , she's just Uruvi for me , Tejaswini forgotten and that is the best thing one can probably say about an actor.
You have quite spread yourself on the young lady, so I have not much to add. But she is better when she is doing vigorous arguing, as with Bhishma, or attempting an edgy hostility, as in the post hamaam sequence with Karna, than in the plain emotional parts. When Arjun asks her if she thinks he is not the sarvashreshta, she looks blank. She should have said something to reassure him.
I guess she felt blank too , some times I feel blank too when I'm asked my opinions like that on my face . 😆I need time to formulate opinion but once formed they're very strong and unmovable. I guess same with Uruvi. She's not quick opinionated.
Kunti - Extremely glamorous ⭐️, almost too much so for a role that is of an widow for the 99 % part 😕, but Sayantani saved it with her natural acting . She's superb with gray roles , so I'm confused why the makers are so hell bent on white washing Kunti's character , after securing Sayantani for the role ! 😕Lost opportunity .
Because the audience will not accept anything else. She was not too grey as Satyavati in the Mahabharata either. But her get up is all wrong. Being a widow, she should have been in white, with minimal or no jewellery. As it is,she looks like a Christmas tree on December 24 evening.
But I do not agree with all the Kunti bashing here. Of that more later, perhaps. I liked her scene with Arjun a lot.
Agree with Indian viewers not being able to understand and accept gray characters , especially in mytho genre . But they should be slowly introduced to the idea of it.
She looked stunning as maiden Kunti . You can expect her to pop out as gorgeous babies as her sons Karn-Arjun are !
She looked exactly the same as she does 25 years later. Odd!
Pace of the story is great for now , almost breathlessly so. You can't risk missing a scene , or you might miss some important dialogs or nuance . Script is compact like Oxford pocket dictionary. More importantly, it has twists and turns and is pleasingly unpredictable within a predictable set up.
Background score : Some of them are really good , as the flute tune that plays during Uruvi's banter with Jaya Vijaya or the one plays on Uruvi-Arjun, the lyric less tune that plays when Karn shoots arrows at special occasions , the sad tune when Kunti bid goodbye to an infant Karn , Uruvi introductory tune... so on.
The flute tune in the background might have been very good, but the same cannot be said of Jaya and Vijaya. They set my teeth on edge.😡 And they are ubiquitous, the tiresome, giggly creatures!
They're useful in highlighting the maturity and theheraav of the female lead. 😉 😆 Who hasn't known classmates or friends exactly like them ?? 😉
Things I disliked after 1st week :
-: Too much of Arjun-Uruvi scenes . Call me possessive of Uruvi or call me conservative in this regard, or may be because she's going to be the soul mate or Atmasangini of Karn , it was extremely annoying to see so much of Uruvi with Arjun. At first I was ok with their friendship .I also enjoy any opposite gender platonic friendship in a Mytho set up. There are some lovely banters back and forth. Their personalities are some what similar , with Uruvi being more feisty or Arjun easy going charmer. Teju looks really good with Kingshuk in a cute kind of way ( not a patch on the live wire that Karn-Uruvi are though ) , so I enjoyed it until... the flirting started. It's obvious that there are undercurrents and Arjun is much too much fond of Uruvi . Cut down on that makers , or else I'll have an ulcer pretty soon.🤢
Show Arjun as much as you want. In any story that involves Karn , Arjun is important and vice versa , because K_A were arch rivals yet brothers. Their names are taken together many a times . We all understand that. Show Arjun with Karn , with his brothers , with Kunti , with Shon .. with horse .. with whoever however you want as long as it stays relevant to Karn. Keep him away from our Uruvi . She belongs to Karn only. "Dil ke sabse jyada kareeb " yikes ! No no no not done ! Delete ! No triangle needed or wanted . Thank you very much , but we reject and eject any such over closeness.
Who is this "we" ? You are assuming too much, my child, and there is no need to presume that everyone watching the show shares your prejudices and your obsession.😉
I don't, for one. Not that I am interested in an Arjun-Uruvi-Karna triangle, for triangles of all kinds bore me. But I fail to see why Arjun should be shunted off to the sidelines while your new found favourite struts across the stage. 😉
Coming to Arjun-Uruvi, what I fail to understand is how, in the society of those days (or even till most of the last century ) a high born girl like Uruvi is allowed to wander at will all over the countryside with Arjun. He is not related to her, and this sort of gallivanting would never have been allowed in those days. I don't buy all this mitrata spiel. No one would have accepted any of that. For one thing, her parents would have been worried that it would spoil her reputation, and that if the marriage with Arjun did not materialise, this open friendship would definitely harm her chances at the matrimonial stakes.
In instagram and twitter also I'm reading comments with people protesting against Arjun becoming kebab mein haddi between Karn-Uruvi , and you'll find many such others in the forum too 😆. So yes , definitely not "I" , but "we".😉 I've already clarified in my response to Sabita that I don't care about Arjun getting screen space , just not with Uruvi. No one can over shadow Karn. They couldn't even do it in SP MB , where there he hardly got good screen space. Still he stood out ⭐️. When the Sun is in the sky , other stars have to fade out. 😳
-: Kunti's portrayal 😕. More in the episode pointers.
-:The blood promise 🤢. More in the episode pointers.
-: Language 😲. Full of bumpy Urdu words "iradein", "dost" ."Tasveer" 😕 Which century is this again !
It is the pits.😡 Yes ! 😡
-: Gravity defying jump of Uruvi's chariot across the large abyss. Suspension of disbelief failed 🤔. Divya horses the kya ????😆 Maybe they're disciples of Rajnikant ! 😃
Rajnikant would have done it with more elan. As things were, it was ludicrous.
This apart, the rest of the contestants must have jumped across the chasm exactly like Uruvi, for if not , how would so many of them have made it to the finishing line? So what was so special about her doing it?
As for the actual chariot driving, neither Uruvi nor Duryodhana looks at all natural or realistic. I felt sorry for the poor horses.
No Auntie . Most of the other contestants were already eliminated by the other challenges in the road. The two surviving ones passed over that bridge only , under the nose of Arjun-Uruvi, while ARjun looked on helplessly at the adamant Uruvi. 😆 Only Uruvi's horses are capable of flying . 😆
I'm not going to do methodical episode reviews 😆, since I'm not in the head space to accomplish any such feat nowadays with a brutal job profile. But I'll endeavour to give some of the things from each episodes that I may observe , Sort of bullet points in a haphazard manner , regularly in this thread , for as long as I can continue or the show lasts. Simply hoping and requesting fellow members to join in and drive the chariot . More and more questions lead to the truth . More and more discussions lead to Disney land ! 😃
Will update the thread soon with episodes pointers over the weekend.
Uruvi did not do any elaborate gesture towards Arjun to welcome him , since he's her closest friend . But I will go different. Welcome my friends with open arms.🤗
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