Because I deserve a voice too (DT Note pg. 16) - Page 2

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Another one about her work grievances regarding leaves etc . it's a management issue and she should have taken it with PH , channel..yet I am under the impression she is okay to working with them . So , I don't need why must she repeatedly share this with the fans- who neither have the power nor the understanding of the workings of her job or the schedule. I don't see the reason why she would mention this to the bashers- who , if at all , she addressed the note. Your work hours, your paid job is your own issue . Deal with it. If you have a problem , voice to the right quarters.

Now the one she dropped on us- Mtv, KY2's own creative has repeatedly mentioned that with this show they have tried to push the envelope. Audience was in the dark about the scenes, the story and the interpretation. Niti , signed the the show knowing the demographic , the reach and the content . she pushed her own boundaries , her own sensibilities FOR HER OWN SAKE. Not for fan love - thats an easy cope out. You cannot reason there that the sole aim of her doing those scenes was "fan love". The "fan love" is a reaction to the work she did . it was a job that she signed for and was duly applauded. Rather we all appreciated her dedication and work ethics. And her , what I presumed , 'unapologetic choices".

I don't know how the analogy is drawn with parth's return. Because that was , demanded by fans, trended and they take full credit for it, rather shamelessly. Still, it was Parth's own choice to heed to their demand. He is not writing notes stating he went out of his way or was "uncomfortable" but did it for fan louu. 😆 . If he has , he would be criticized too.

No such demand was made to Niti , infact audience was surprised since the first kiss. That was the demand of her job ,not for her fans or audience. Even then , the choice and right to go with it is her own.

In both cases, however, varied the scenarios be the choices and the decisions they take are their own.

Niti compered her bashing with her other co-actors who are doing shows with her boss. Umm, disagree,both the co-actors were bashed during the course of her previous show, given much less love and more hate for their crass behaviour and bad acting.

Anyway, this is freedom of internet. As much as detest the internet hate , the sad reality is , there is nothing nobody can do on sns. Or ISIS would be banned from posting. You make your choice to pay attention to nameless/faceless people or ignore or fight against them. Just like I or anyone else cannot stop people on sns from name calling me for stating my opinion on a 3rd person. Their choice , their decision and their time.

Again , I repeat , Niti , would be the last person from this cast who I would like to troll. The only reason why I even bother is because it's her . Someone I invested myself in. Criticism is part of life, she and others need to deal with it.

If you can interpret ,, draw up conclusions after having observed my comments over the phase of this show and beyond then how can we stop others from doing the same about Niti. Where does the question of mis-interpretation comes? It's simply two different opinions.

Why must there be a middle path? This is neither bashing nor hate .But a critique.

Originally posted by: anni80

Since niti has put the ball in fans court saying that she did some uncomfortable scenes for "fan love" ... its my responsibility as a fan to clear few things...

The show was aired on MTv... it was a youth show on youth channel... so even niti knew very well what will b the graph of her character but fans were not ..

Infct as gennie said it came as a huge surprise for fans when we got to see the first kiss...

Secondly to put blame on viewers that they want physical intimacy an thats why she had to compromise with her principles and had to let down her family is something offensive for the viewers as we r the same viewers who applauded the punch to the male lead... we applauded the way shadow crying scene was executed... we gvve kudos to her when she single handedly carried the show on her shoulders during hospitalisation track and created the same chemistry just by holding one random hand only through her acting...

We r the same viewers who found the sizzling chemistry between them even when they were not in one single frame during friendship day track... forget about touching each other

So to say that viewers only wanted physical intimacy is something very insulting for the loyal viewers...

We loved MaNan coz they were realistic.. we loved manan for their communication... we loved their hugs not for physical intimacy but for the way they reciprocated each others feelings through hugs... they were not perfect yet they looked like perfect... we loved nandini coz she was the most powerful and progressive female lead ever portrayed on indian television... we loved niti for portraying nandini so convincingly and now by saying that u hv to do lot of adjuatmesnts u r not only insulting ur fam base but also urself...

Originally posted by: AreYaar

All of this.

Also can I just say that the timing of all this is so strange...how come Niti's grievances only started in season 2? Why will the timing of that not make anyone speculate? Why pretend for so long that everything is hunky dory and suddenly freeze up in season 2? Even for the sake of show promotion, that is quite a ways to go.

Sadly , her committment to the show and her ethics were the reasons why she was endearing to us. We appreciated her performance both on-screen and her efforts for the same. That is why we loved her. When she goes on and on repeating her grievances , I don't understand it at all. Because she chose to do S2 , is okay working with the same employers again? Then where does I , as a viewer , stand.

All of this only points to the fact that Niti has some long held grudge/grievance that she finally let rip in season 2 for reasons best known to her...these constant justifications and guilt tripping on fans point to someone who constantly feels not appreciated enough...and I honestly don't get why.

We went over and above with our praise for her in S1. Yes as past might not be a marker for few , it is unfortunately for Niti. If she remembers her grueling schedule then why doesn't she realize that she was applauded and loved .

I am sorry , sometimes, her justifications seems to be an excuse for her on-screen performance in S2. Which in my opinion was a patch on her own talent. I tried avoiding my criticizing her work but focused on her character for the longest until she again chose to blame the failure of S2 on us fans.

Is this because of the trending? Would the situation be different if fans had trended solely for her? But to base literally EVERY thing on that one stupid trend and whoever milked it for whatever reason is surely short-sighted...anyone who takes a second to view the feedback for this show can see how MaNan get that praise as a UNIT...PaNi get that praise equally for their part in playing this...so I really don't get why on earth Niti feels she isn't valued...simply because of some idiotic trolls who spew shit for the heck of it?? Who in this cast doesn't get trolls spewing hate at them? Do they all sit and cry all day about it? Doesn't seem like it.

AY , you had a vastly different opinion than me on trending. And I know it stands true even now. But how does that trend even relate to Niti , at all. Why does she base that as a parameter for her popularity v/s her co-actor? The same fans would go and trend for her randomly, ask her when she posts sad quotes or stood by her during merger fiasco when her absence for just 2 days was taken so badly? Why is this skewed reaction.

We didn't give Merger any chance because of how bad it was .

Same for S2 - bad acting, bad narration and shabbily done job.

Only Niti can help herself in this case if she chooses to get some PERSPECTIVE beyond these skewed narratives thrown at her.

She is stuck in a maze of opinions where she has Chosen to run with one perspective and stuck to it. Her Choice but then it is our choice to criticize her , if her comments are based on us.

Anyone with eyes can see the immense amount of love her work in this show has garnered her...why throw it away over one random trend that happened at one point in time? Is any grudge bigger than all the goodwill she garnered otherwise? Something to think about for her.

So this is reply to some questions which was put forward to me.

Are those scenes easy to do ? ---

No, Its not and that's the exact reason we all have applauded the actors involved time and again for doing intimate scenes with so much elegance,purity and maturity. All the praise was not for just the mere act..but all we all very well know its not easy for an actor. Hence we all filled pages and pages of praise which has got conveniently forgotten I guess but anyways..

Coming to the question about parth mentioning the discomfort before and us not reacting --

Yes not only parth ..even veebha and many such actors have mentioned it..and not to forget niti herself has mentioned this..have u ever thought why none questioned her "THEN " but only "NOW" ?? if you could have put lil more effort in reading the points made in the previous thread u would have got clear cut answer for ur query.. its not coz she said its uncomfy..its coz of the "TONE" of the note and "reasons she listed". It was like as if she did some favor to fans..as if it was not part of her job..as if those scenes are not good to be viewable by family.. ok chalo lets ignore all that..one simple questions..are those scenes just incorporated there simply for fans..is there no "DEMAND OF SCRIPT " ???

As far as I have seen..most of the celebs have always mentioned..yes its uncomfortable..not easy but we do it coz its the demand of the script..it is to show the raw emotions of the characters involved isnt it..?? if kissing and all is u think is not viewable by family i am not sure what age we are living in. sorry i interpreted it like that i may be wrong. but hey thats my OPINION not name calling or BASHING...

What stopped niti to say it was demand of script this time ??? I think thats what professional actors say..u dont downplay a character's act merely as FAN's KA LOVE..

I wonder how it will feel like if all the cine actors one day come and say Raj kissed simran for people's love..it was incorporated for people love..it wad done by us despite our family not agreeing to it..how does that sound to u ???

The actress very well knew what she was stepping into..this was not a GEC show..not a saas bahu show..an MTV show who everyone knows shows BOLD stuff...there was no fan love when she signed the contract...i am sure if the family was so conservative she had freedom to incorporate no kissing clause..which she did not..pls dont use the "FAN" CARD here...

I would have admired if she owned up her decisions and had pride in doing such scenes which actually she used to have...and hence we never questioned her earlier discomfort.

I am ignoring the other controversial statements in the note like sacrifices she did for holidays, PTKK..and her mentor..coz trust me i have lot more to say on that... :P

Lastly, the background story of why she put a note..I am happy to inform you that I also follow these actors closely ..both the actors and many others...so i can actually describe this background story even in much more detail including the points which u might have not seen...for now..all this so called bashing and what not..i will summarise as :

>snow balling of 1 comment to 500 comments..mind it 1 negative comment (not bashful) to 500 comments in the name of defence.

> Exaggeration .. couple of comments exaggerated as cruel bashing ..etc etc..

> Victimisation..u feed the negative comments..exaggerate it and then display it as bashing to everyone including the celeb involved..when ppl come they see "omg 500 comments of bashing"

> Projection of this vicitmisation -- making mountain of a mole hill

am not saying they never get bashed ..they do but not the way u guys project..sorry if i dont agree with ur projections..

ok chalo lets forget all that for a moment...when a celeb makes a public statement ..ppl react to that statement ..they dont go and do PHD ki why she or he said this..if SRK/Alia makes a statement..only statement is published everywhere..ever noticed that??? so learn to own up that fact..kisi ke paas faltu ka time nahi hai to dissect the background

Lastly i will leave with ALIA BHATT's statement which she gave couple of days ago when asked how she deal with critisicm and negativity... "criticism and negative comments are important for an actor's growth.. if we can take so many good comments happily why cant we embrace the negative comments with same zeal " ... NEED I SAY MORE ???

thats for now..i think i still have missed many things to say

@NUR : thank you for opening this thread ... <3

P.S pls learn the difference between OPINION, SARCASM, MOCKING, TROLLING and BASHING

Originally posted by: -SaaMYa-

So this is reply to some questions which was put forward to me.

Are those scenes easy to do ? ---

No, Its not and that's the exact reason we all have applauded the actors involved time and again for doing intimate scenes with so much elegance,purity and maturity. All the praise was not for just the mere act..but all we all very well know its not easy for an actor. Hence we all filled pages and pages of praise which has got conveniently forgotten I guess but anyways..

Coming to the question about parth mentioning the discomfort before and us not reacting --

We have not reacted to Parth's discomfort? He didn't blame it on the fan louu. And we certainly did troll him for his dikhatein but he and Veebha both said , it was the script's demand and their job. Niti , infact, owned it up when she said , these scenes are not easy but part of reality that they are trying to project- smart, sensible and she was not bashed too.

Yes not only parth ..even veebha and many such actors have mentioned it..and not to forget niti herself has mentioned this..have u ever thought why none questioned her "THEN " but only "NOW" ?? if you could have put lil more effort in reading the points made in the previous thread u would have got clear cut answer for ur query.. its not coz she said its uncomfy..its coz of the "TONE" of the note and "reasons she listed". It was like as if she did some favor to fans..as if it was not part of her job..as if those scenes are not good to be viewable by family.. ok chalo lets ignore all that..one simple questions..are those scenes just incorporated there simply for fans..is there no "DEMAND OF SCRIPT " ???

The actress very well knew what she was stepping into..this was not a GEC show..not a saas bahu show..an MTV show who everyone knows shows BOLD stuff...there was no fan love when she signed the contract...i am sure if the family was so conservative she had freedom to incorporate no kissing clause..which she did not..pls dont use the "FAN" CARD here...

I would have admired if she owned up her decisions and had pride in doing such scenes which actually she used to have...and hence we never questioned her earlier discomfort.

Lastly, the background story of why she put a note..I am happy to inform you that I also follow these actors closely ..both the actors and many others...so i can actually describe this background story even in much more detail including the points which u might have not seen...for now..all this so called bashing and what not..i will summarise as :

>snow balling of 1 comment to 500 comments..mind it 1 negative comment (not bashful) to 500 comments in the name of defence.

> Exaggeration .. couple of comments exaggerated as cruel bashing ..etc etc..

> Victimisation..u feed the negative comments..exaggerate it and then display it as bashing to everyone including the celeb involved..when ppl come they see "omg 500 comments of bashing"

> Projection of this vicitmisation -- making mountain of a mole hill

am not saying they never get bashed ..they do but not the way u guys project..sorry if i dont agree with ur projections..

ok chalo lets forget all that for a moment...when a celeb makes a public statement ..ppl react to that statement ..they dont go and do PHD ki why she or he said this..if SRK/Alia makes a statement..only statement is published everywhere..ever noticed that??? so learn to own up that fact..kisi ke paas faltu ka time nahi hai to dissect the background

Lastly i will leave with ALIA BHATT's statement which she gave couple of days ago when asked how she deal with critisicm and negativity... "criticism and negative comments are important for an actor's growth.. if we can take so many good comments happily why cant we embrace the negative comments with same zeal " ... NEED I SAY MORE ???

thats for now..i think i still have missed many things to say

@NUR : thank you for opening this thread ... <3

P.S pls learn the difference between OPINION, SARCASM, MOCKING, TROLLING and BASHING