Was It Really Uncalled For????? - Page 2

Originally posted by: spnfan

I agree with u... I never felt manik was as close to alya as he is with other fab 5 memebers... He not.even thought once about alya before siding with dhruv to get her back... Lets keep manan aside and think take 3 random people who went through what alya and manan went through 80 percent of the people will sympathize with alya's character.than manik's... Nandini has nothing to do with it... It was not her fault that manik got obsessed with her... We also cannot blame manik completely for what happened... He is shown as an implusive stubborn 19 year old boy so he going after nandu is justifiable... If it was done by a guy ib his mid or late 20s then be can blamed... Manik had no control over him when.it cones to nandini... He forgets everything.when it cones to her... Eventhough hr still loves his friends loke before his priorities have definitely changed. His friends has.no right to question him on that... Fab 5 can never take nandu's place in manik's life... He has a.possible future with her... She is someone who can give him a family of his own.. Fab5 should understand that... Alya has gone through a lot and she is angry at everyone and manik being the leader she targeted him more...

Manik and alya both are right at their own places... For dhruv o have nothing to say his character is pathetic and utkarsh's acting is not helping at all... Krissan.was also a newcomer alobg with him but now she.is far ahead of him and he.is where he started off...

Originally posted by: shahz

Totally agree with you...My question is if she was in love with Manik then how come it took her few days after their break up to fall for Dhruv...She herself was never in love with Manik! I didn't see her thinking about Manik when she was having her secret moments with Dhruv.What ever condition she is in now is cuz of her relationship with Dhruv.DhruLiya need grow up and sort their crap out instead of blaming Manik and Nandinin for everything that goes wrong in their life.Manik was right to break up with Alia cuz clearly he was with her just for fab 5 sake.But he should have been bit more clear about his reason and not make her feel she was the sole reason but for that she cant just nlame him for everything that goes wrong in her life.

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Alya- They drifted apart,visible in day 1. She called her thing with Manik- "celeb thing". Yes she was obsessed with her perfect life with Manik, was it love? Don't know because they hardly connected emotionally ever. Both are to be blamed. She was okay with Manik manhandling Nandini , letting a girl be ragged by her own bf but she flipped when an accident happened. She was there, Manik didn't cause that accident kiss . So how does Alya reacts, blames Nandini for it rather than talking to her own bf about it and airing out her differences.

Girl send goons to Nandini- never apologized. Allowed Manik to take the blame for it. So yes if Manik crossed a line with her , so did she. Fair enough.

They have had 2-3 closure talks. The fault was of both. Not just Manik, here is the blame on her.

Cabir almost died because of Harshad, yet he forgave him for Alya's sake. And it was organized by Dhruv and Manik. Umm, when did they leave her alone. She herself told Mukti that Manik and she drifted, had a different thing, nobody is to be blamed for .

Keep throwing the other guy under the bus to paint yourself the victim.

It wasn't just Manik between Dhruv-Alya but Alya brought Nandini too many times. She never wanted her thing with Dhruv to be out in public or in front of fab5 . Because she thought that would ruin relationship-so how is fab5 blamed for not knowing her thing?

She called out Manik for prioritizing Nandini even when Manik's love almost died coz of Soha. At the hospital.

Dhruv thing - Again Alya is blaming only Dhruv for it when it was her rage against Nandini and Manik that started their break-up and latter's insecurities. Convenient, victim play.

Her depression- Arya , Dhruv , Manik- blame the world but girl has never looked at her own action. Sorry no sympathizes

Dhruv - So nice , till the point Manik was bad, he was fine, letting his friend be the fall guy. But the moment Manik got his glory and shined, Dhruv is PMsing, even though he knows what all manik has done for him. he was ready to let Dhruv to sing at the FC too. So much history , yet the guy things Manik is all about himself.

Sorry, it's very easy to buy their pity party, but funny how they have all used and abused Manik. They want him to leave everything and be with them but they hardly ever been in his low-time. Dhruv-breakdown- all left, Nyo- nobody stays in the room.

Originally posted by: Medha.S

Manik betrayed her? For one mistake she made? Tell me, what kind of mistake is sending some burly men after an innocent girl who has never even said a word to Alya to make her do that? Aliya is suffering from depression, going through so much shit - does it change the fact that she is manipulative and used to be one of those I-get-what-I -want girls.She is manipulating Dhruv, his situation and everything going around to get the results that she prefers. It was a grave mistake on Alya's part, one that I will never justify. But the real reason Manik broke up with her was coz their relation was headed no where. Being a friend could he not tell her that? If you are judging Alya for her past, then let me remind you Manik was no saint. He might have had it covered when Shahid tried to commit suicide or when Navya was locked in dustbin. But what about the trauma they went through? Neither is Alya the person she once was, neither is Manik. Her mistake is not something that can be forgiven but back then Manik had no rights to judge her for that. Coz he was no better himself. Nandini was the one to kill that monster in him and bring out the good side to him but before Nandini happened, Manik was as bad as the rest.

When you fall out of love with someone? When you don't want to be in a relationship with someone, you break it up. You don't drag them around with you and force yourself to have feelings for them when you are already falling for someone else. Of course you should not be forced to be in a relationship but the least you can do is respect the time you had once spent with that person and more than anything you owe them the truth not excuses.

Manik would have been betraying her if he would have kept pretending that he was into her just like she wanted to keep pretending that he was into her and just like Mukti wanted to keep them pretending to be sickly in love with each other for Mukti's peace of mind. I agree they continued to pretend but the least he could have done was be honest with her and tell her they broke up coz their relationship wasn headed anywhere. Instead he made her feel guilty about being the sole reason of their break up.

It does not matter how concerned you are about your relationship and how insecure you are feeling -- No one is going to force you to take a step like send guys after a girl who has become your boyfriend's new obsession -- it wasn't Nandini's fault. She is not obliged to face the consequences of what Aliya feels and what Manik does. You do that yourself, because you think it is fine to do that shit.

If there is so much power imbalance that instead of talking to your partner, slapping and shouting and and discussing things with your partner, your first reaction is to what? physically assault some girl? That is what you do then you already know that you are in a relationship which will never work. Of course Nandini is no where at fault. When did I mention this and I have clearly stated the same. So please dont twist my words. Alya made a huge mistake n I wont ever deny that. The reason I mentioned it is bcoz of the way Manik broke up with her. THAT was unfair to me! Nothing else. Yes, Alya was wrong and Nandini is no where at fault, back then or now for what happened.

Manik broke it off with her an never once did he try to use his past relationship with her to make her feel guilty or take advantage of it -- Aliya and Dhruv don't even wait a minute to start hurling accusations, start pointing out Manik's ignorance and Nandini's involvement -- It has become everyone's habit to blame Manik for everything that goes wrong in their lives because now he isn't always available to make it all alright for them -- I gues that is what you get for trying to make a family out of kids your age and act as their father figure -- The moment you are not ready to sacrifice everything and maybe you want o act like a kid yourself for once, everyone is going to blame you for every problem, every issue, every consequences of their action . He did make her feel guilty when he told her he is breaking up coz she didn trust him. Say she had trusted him would he not have broken up with her? He was clearly having feelings for Nandini when he was still Alya's boyfriend. Dhruv wrongly accused Nandini and Alya never accused her. Even when Dhruv did, she pointed out to him that Nandini was not at fault. She said that even today. Alya blamed Dhruv more than she did Manik today. She blamed Manik for overlooking Fab 5 and she was not wrong in that. Nandini has no part in this. But Manik did. When he decided to goto Mangalore after Nandini he forced Nyonika to plan the workshop but did he consult his friends once? Would you like it if your friends thrust their decisions on u and expect u to follow them blindly?

He broke it off because he was falling in love with someone else. That is what you do instead of keeping a girlfriend at your side like a trophy while you emotionally cheat on her.

Yes he broke it off because he had feelings for another girl. Fair enough. But making your ex girlfriend feel her mistake was the cause of it is not. So does that mean if that incident had not happened Manik would still be with her? He had every right to admonish Alya for what she did but telling her I am breaking up with you coz u dont trust me? Like REALLY?

Originally posted by: FieryHeart

If u r calling Alya shallow let me remind you everyone including Manik back then was shallow. The only thing that was true and genuine about them were their feelings for each other as a friend

Umm Manik was shallow, you missed the forum then we didn;t like or supported him at all.

. And about the man handling, Manik was the worst among them in the initial days. He tortured Nandini no less. So y is he pardoned so easily while others are still being judged though they redeemed themselves

Because Manik apologized to Nandini , egg confession . He did that , owned it and asked her to give it back. Alya never did . So yes her equation with Nandini stands the same.

? Manik was not the same he was before and neither are the rest of them.

But Alya did love him and this is what Vibha had told him in one of the scenes. She had even told Manik that she loves him truly unlike her but Manik had shrugged him off.

Umm I want talk about Vibha because she doesn't exist in KY2 world , never created by our writers but even then , might I add Alya herself quoted her thing with Manik as " Celeb thing" - please , i would rather go by the character than someone's perception of her.

Alya was the not the one to touch his soul but it was Nandini and I wont deny this.

But Manik should have at least told her the truth about the break up. Being a friend he owed her that and if not anything, their friendship was supposed to be true.

Yes which is why he made Cabir take that case against Harshad. Which is why he wanted happiness for Alya too because infront of him she declared her love for Manik.

And about Alya flipping out, keep yourself in her place. Your boyfriend is obsessed with a girl and when he accidentally kisses her, you are bound to feel insecure coz ur anyways surrounded by negative thoughts.

Did , so you send goons to a girl rather than confronting your own bf , again and agiain.

True they had a closure but just after that things went downhill for her. She came out of one relationship only to see another mess her life. She shouldn't even call it unfair? 😆

She can call it unfair but she should introspect her own self in both cases and relationships too.

Alya was insecure regarding Nandini. But didn't Manik take his hatred a lil too far focusing on Nandini more? Who was Nandini back then? Just a newbie in their college.

She never objected to Manik hating Nandini- haha she enjoyed it, watch the ice-cream scene or the spot ones. her problem only started with the kiss .

Dhruv's accusations are uncalled for, I agree but what about the fact that Manik barely gave time for his friends? It is true. Its all about Nandini for him. Well everyone is a human and everyone go through their fair share of ups and downs. Just coz Alya is not the female lead, doesn't mean her character ends up becoming a prop.

Are you serious? Guy has been through with Cabir all the time. Mukti - too , Dhruv and even Alya- All of them chose to keep their things from him on their own- Mukti-Harshad even though he is warning her again and again. Dhruv- comes and asks for him to patch up his thing with Alya, boy does that. Cabir-Soha -album, homosexuality, Raghav, Mom issues- umm half of the show was all about Manik prioritizing hsi friends over Nandini.

None of his so-called friends were there for him ever. Where was Alya , when Manik needed her.

they broke up, it's awkward to be friends immediately . Reality. Which even Alya has spoken about SO MANY TIMES.

If you would have listened to the argument , nobody is calling or wanting Alya to be PROP , we want depth to her character, not her regressive back to a whiny self again and again, give her scope to introspect, regret and learn. Alya stopped growing as a character . She needs to realize what she wants, identify her mistakes.