Will KY2 become cliched because of MaNan?

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Now I'm actually wondering if I should quit watching Kaisi Yeh Yaariyan which is not doing anything to justify it's title.
And the only people I blame for this are CVs and Lost Boy production team because they just give into the demands of immature teenage fangirls who watch a show just for the sake of drooling.

Dhruv - The prospective third guy between their favourite couple looks like a "bhai" for her just because they don't have any CHEMISTRY??? Like seriously? And not to forget he becomes the POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE character suddenly so that he doesn't come between MaNan.

Alya - The hero's ex-girlfriend who is also one of his best friends is hated and turned into a selfish vamp? Just because she doesnt have to come between the leads? And not to forget DhuLya are shipped for the same reason with imaginary cuteness and chemistry (which they don't have any, they are just friends - a part of Fab-5 and Dhruv speaks to everyone among Fab-5 closely not just Manik)

Harshad - The guys who was one of the targets of Fab-5 and has been a victim of their bullying suddenly becomes villain (and is supposedly a DARK character and BEYOND REDEMPTION - if they know what is the meaning of redemption in first place and and which are the sins that are beyond redemption)

Mukti - Confined to sleeping with different men and taking anti-depressants. She has no role more than this.

Navya - Isn't this show Navya's story too? Her journey from a small town to her dreams via SPACE Academy? Did CVs forget this? And she is limited to drooling on Harshad.

Cabir - suddenly people sympathize with him and call him GREY while Harshad is BLACK. Ofcourse person who puts up a nude video and nude pics in a LOCKED NOTICEBOARD OF A COLLEGE - his crime suddenly looks less punishable or rather not punishable at all infront of the one who has revealed his sexual orientation. If we want LGBTs to have their equal rights to us then shouldn't their punishments be equal too? Why should we overlook their gruesome mistakes just because they are LGBTs and we feel it's out right to PITY them?

All that we see on screen is MaNan MaNan and MaNan.. I love them too.. But definitely not at the cost of the story. As a regular viewer of TV shows I want something new.
In western shows there are no fixed couple. Because that is not the case in real life too.


There is a talk that Manik is so called looser and poor guy because everyone depends on him.
That is NOT the case. That is simply in fangirl's head because they cannot see anything beyond Manik. If Fab-5 depends on Manik, Manik depends on them too. Without Fab-5 Manik Malhotra is nothing. He is a ZERO. And even Nandini Murthy cannot fill the void of Fab-5 in his life. These are the same friends who ended up at Manik's house at late night UNEXPECTEDLY ONE BY ONE Just to see how he is and how is he feeling, if he is ok and not upset. That is their friendship. Just a message, not even a call from Manik and they forgo their sleep and run to him at late hour. Please tell me how do it? (without giving excuses of transport, safety etc etc.. That is fab-5 friendship) They chose Manik as their leader because they are a not just a group of friends but one gang too and every group and gang has to have a leader just like how a cricket team and a classroom has a captain and a monitor respectively, because there will be issues and there will be events and someone has to take the decisions for everyone. So Manik was chosen. That doesnt make him a "bechaara" or whatsoever.

Honestly there are too many flaw in Manik's character - No, I'm not talking about the bullying part.
Manik says that love is trust and broke up with Alya just because she could'nt trust him. Did he once retrospect why she couldnt trust him? She may have seen him bullying many girls, taking friendly with many girls, Mukti - who roams around him in bikinis and spends time alone with him - she trusts her and trust him with her, then why couldn't she trust his equation with Nandini? Because he was actually obsessed with her - which is equal to cheating in a relationship. This sensitive issue not highlighted in the show, nor it is ever spoken in this forum because as long as they show hot MaNan chemistry everything is ok, isnt it? Since indai-forums comprises of 99% of girls, i would ask them to put themselves in the shoes of Alya and think. (since it is the tendency that people may have put themselves in the shoes of Nandini because they like Manik to get obsessed by them) So in this case even Manik broke Alya's trust, so which trust is he talking about?
When he broke up with Alya, he did not show a single sign of remorse or pain - she has been with him for SEVEN YEARS Dammit! And they are showing that all that they had between them is passion, or physical attraction and the only thing they both did together is sleep with each other. (yes, they did and no one among Fab-5 is virgin except Dhruv)


Coming to Dhruv - his character growth stopped somewhere in this MaNan fiasco. Dhruv is the only one who completely understands Manik. When he broke up with Alya he did not tell anyone - but without saying anything Dhruv understood they broke up. He punched Manik when he apparently sent goons behind Nandini because Manik is CAPABLE of doing such a thing. Yes, he is, you can't deny that. But when Manik said one word that he "did not" send the goons - Dhruv believed him because his buddy will never lie to him. (Don't argue that Nandini had to convince him - because at that time Manik did not say anything after punch - it was only later when Dhruv patched up that he said he did not send any goons - before that he did not deny it)
Now coming to the most useless argument on why he could not read Manik's eyes being said when he said he loves Nandini - Dhruv is human - not some antaryami baba. He has never seen MaNan talking to each other like humans in first place. If only he had seen such or even better if he had seen shayad yehi hai pyar dance then he would have immediately known that Manik loves her - just like he figured it out that when his breakup happened.
The point is Manik keeps too many secrets from his friends and he expects everyone to come out clean with him. You can only demand what you are capable to give.
He did not trust Dhruv with his little secret that he and Nandini are a couple, he did not trust Dhruv that he will understand him, then what right does he have to demand trust? What right does he have to give lectures on trust and surround his ideologies on trust?

He felt betrayed and hurt when Cabir lied to him and hid his secret from him - but Manik did you tell your secret to him? You lied every moment, on every step to him regarding your progressing relationship with Nandini, you lied why were you so late when Mukti attempted suicide, when you didnt turn up for musical intra competition and most importantly your break up with Alya and final nail in the coffin your affair with Nandini - and you expect everyone to bare their souls to you and you have fun at their expense? How fair is it? Please CVs, show Manik as the ultimate bully but dont show him as a HYPOCRITE.

(^^^ I'M SURE THIS ISSUE WILL NEVER BE ADDRESSED IN THE SHOW AS WELL AS IN THE FORUM, BUT I HAVE WRITTEN THIS ONLY FOR RETROSPECTION - TO LOOK AT RATIONALITY AND DEEPER INSIGHT INTO MANIK'S CHARACTER.)


Having broken Alya and Dhruv's trust, he hadn't kept Nandini's trust either. A silly argument has come up that does Nandini really love Manik? Why didn't she trust his feelings when she made the promises of trusting him forever? Now this is the moment where you have to keep yourself in Nandini's shoes. A guy whom you have hated so much, suddenly shows his physical attraction towards you in missed kiss attempts and then suddenly becomes nice to you, and after a drunken sequence you fall in love with him, knowing of his breakup you start and affair with him and kiss him and suddenly the next day you hear it was all a farce, a perfect betrayal - what are you supposed to do? If you fell in love with a friend or a person whom you have known for years then she may not believe any such things - but here she fell in love with an enemy and a person whom she knows barely two months out of which it has only been a week since you spoke like a human with him. How is she not supposed to believe him? Why is a woman scorned blamed for a hot dashing Byronic Hero? Why are we taking online medium as a platform to shut off our brains and rationality?


Regarding Nandini, well her character is very much unreal unlike Navya's character which is very much real and a perfect mix, but Nandini's - No. But very serene to watch onscreen. Such miss-goody-two-shoes characters are necessary in a show. So I have no complaints.


If CVs don't want to make this show TRP-centric and have any intentions to break the cliche, then here are few things I would like to see in MTV Kaisi yeh yaariyan.

1. Harshad falling in love with Navya (screw the chemistry because even Parth and Niti did not have chemistry until they showed those almost kiss proximity scenes)

2. Dhruv and Nandini being a beautiful couple for few months, then break up and make MaNan the end game with another beautiful journey (to break the cliche since we never saw love triangles in shows - there were only possibilities but not implemented) - Oh yes, don't care about chemistry here too because my neurons are more in control than my hormones. Nandini has right to move one from the guy who did the so-called-sacrifice breaking her trust and his friend's trust.

3. Fab-5 occupying 80% of screen space rest 20% for MaNan, in shot all the EIGHT character to have EQUAL SCREEN SPACE.

4. Dont drag stupid suspense too long - like Nayonika-Raghav, Manik's dad, Harshad-Manik, Harshad-Nayonika, Harshad-Mukti and last but very important Dhruv-Rishabh and their attacks. You should learn from GEC channels and their top shows on how to deal with suspenses (Minus Balaji shows, because they are horrible with it, hence they are on bottom of the table)

5. Show some passion for music in NH3. Showing fab-5 as the invincible band and NH3 can win only by cheating is so unreal and cliched. Whenever a new band comes there will be new-ness, people look forward to that band first and new-ness is the thing which always tops (take examples from real bollywood music - how Aashiqui-2 music broke away from stereotypes and won the audience)

6. Finally, please show us about friendship - do not thrive on chemistry always. Don't show Manik as Nandini-obsessed love struck puppy (which you have already shown initially and I felt like i have seen this umpteen times on Indian youth shows) Show him a man of guts who can do anything for his friends and trusts them the same way as he expects them to be.


OR


If you cannot show anything as such then show MaNan reunion right away and instil some more kissing scenes or take permission for some bed scenes and show even those and run your show based on fangirling and internet views. You'll end up like the once upon a time top show of your rival channel which is struggling for trps now inspite of still being top in channel.






God Bless Everyone

Love,
Tich.



P.S: I'm not against proximity scenes. And you can make it out from my DP icon. Infact I'm happy TV shows are not shying away from showing actual kisses. But anything of too much is irritating. Ultimately if story and new-ness/freshness is not there, everything goes down the drain.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi
Now get a time so un resting.
First of all this show is about yaariyan n it revolves around teens n there friendship,there love life,complications n there family n the depth which they feel for them.
I keep my MaNan Phan girl aside n say that since beginning I m watching n I hooked to it coz of story n then manan fights n all bullies I used to hate him.. On other hand I stiil remember the first scene which I watched n even recommended to my friends between harshad n multi. There story has so much scope.

I m waiting now since a long story to fold between mukti n harshad,there break up ? Why is she like that?
I m waiting to know what happened between manik mom n him? Why there relation is like that?
I m waiting to know why dhruv n rishabh are getting attacks?
How that pen related to of nandini father ?
I m waiting to know how were aliya n manik in past n she realizing it was infatuation
What is that secret which will destroy both harshad n manik?
Why cabir mom n randhir on either ways?
No matter what ever n how much fans demand for manan scenes
Or there love life. I want to the story in progress n cvz will give us that.. Cliche or non cliche ots cvz have to decide.
I have always appreciate cvz n will always.
Thanks for giving such cliche story that I m in madly deeply love with it
I m waiting to know when will manik confide in cabir will tell about him n nandini..
Ps.. Nowadays telly story only revolved around pairing n the hatred love story. All serials r same nowadays among them ky2 is shining...
Edited by addictedlove - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I dont agree...and NO COMMENTS.
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very very well written and sensible post 👏 👏 👏
Edited by sparkle2985 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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First off hats off to you for writing a review which is so much in depth. :) I agree with a lot of things you said but not with the WAY you said it. I would call KY2 team the pioneers of "break the cliched". I am guessing this is new to them which is why along the way they have made a few mistakes but not big enough for me to leave the show, personally.

Haven't said that, Nandini for you is not a realistic character but I have seen many people like her in my life. Besides, morally, we have seen her speak against stuff which I think a lot of people do. Even you and me. They haven't shown her do anything "mahan" as such so I don't get why she is being targeted by everyone. Come to think of it Navyas character from the moment she stepped in the show has been a cliched. Small town girl goes to the big city to fulfill her dreams. For instance, I don't get how she can be so blinded by just a mere crush not even love, crush? I mean come on. Though I do agree that it's her story as well so the CVs should focus on her as well.

I don't get how Manik was not true to what he had with Alya. Alya was the one who was insecure in the relationship. It wasn't until they broke up that Manik saw Nandini as something more. Alya in my eyes isn't a vamp. Like every teenager she wants what was constant in her life. But, I think their breakup is good for the character development of Alya. She can now discover herself and who SHE is.

What they did to Dhruvs character is unforgivable. I was team Dhruv at first but they ruined it for me. :/ I also completely agree with what you said about Cabir and Harshad, especially with how Cabir is being portrayed.

It's just that I don't think MaNan are the sole reason for the show turning into a cliched.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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i agree they r showing alot around MaNan but the rift btw MaNan is for friendship right??
they r also showing mukti's depression,cabir's fear,dhruv's feelings nd alya's support for her friends...
i think they r concentrating on every roles...🤔
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _keertu_

i agree they r showing alot around MaNan but the rift btw MaNan is for friendship right??

they r also showing mukti's depression,cabir's fear,dhruv's feelings nd alya's support for her friends...
i think they r concentrating on every roles...🤔


Well that's the point.
They are showing rift between MaNan is friendship while it has to be rift between friendship is MaNan.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fan145

I dont agree...and NO COMMENTS.


Then you could have showed yourself a back button and tried to increase your no of posts somewheer else after reading..😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I felt the same for cabir..I felt that he deserved that from Harshad.He is no saint..But i really didnt think through Manik-Alya breakup..And i agree with that too..Even if they are not a couple they are friends..But their aftermath was never shown..And i also think Dhruv wouldve done the same thing if he was in Manik's place..
Ur post is A completely different thought..Welcome..its good to read different stuff.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gudakesha


Well that's the point.
They are showing rift between MaNan is friendship while it has to be rift between friendship is MaNan.

i am saying that Manik sacrificed his luv to dhruv his buddy rite?

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