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Posted: 10 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: _keertu_

i am saying that Manik sacrificed his luv to dhruv his buddy rite?

we dont want manik to sacrifice for him but trust him.. He is not helping dhruv in that case, he is cheating dhruv along with nandini. In the end no one gains anything from this. This is a test of friendship which he failed.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#12
I came here in the forum aftr such a long gap
until yesterday i was tellin to myself "shit this place has turned into a war zone & i wanted out" 😆
today i don't Regret bein here JUST FOR THIS POST
👏 u jst put into words my own thoughts regardin the shw
i agree to every point of urs
I expected a hell lot from this shw yet it turned out the same as usual Hindi drama which i literally hate
but some say it "get over the logic & enjoy the shw cuz its for entertainment"
that's y i said nthg instead walked out
the shw would't hurt a bit to put some senses into it n come out a l'il realistic 😕
all the characters in the shw are one among us n so we do feel 'em nah aftrall
thank you for comin up with such clear notes
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: miyova

I felt the same for cabir..I felt that he deserved that from Harshad.He is no saint..But i really didnt think through Manik-Alya breakup..And i agree with that too..Even if they are not a couple they are friends..But their aftermath was never shown..And i also think Dhruv wouldve done the same thing if he was in Manik's place..
Ur post is A completely different thought..Welcome..its good to read different stuff.


Harshad did not take just his revenge but every student's revenge who suffered in the hands of fab-5 and couldnt do anything because their leader's mom is the trustee of the college.
I dont know if Dhruv would have done the same - even if he did he would have atleast told Manik - just like how he told Manik that he broke up his friendship with Nandini just because he doenst like it and he prefers him over her.
Well my intention is to make atleast one person to look at show in different view. Am really glad you did.😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I do not agree with much of what you have said...I do think u are being a bit judgemental especially when it comes to the views of the 'shippers'of a particular couple.
For one thing, the show has never run and never will run according to what a bunch of people from an online forum say...the makers are no fools and neither should you question the sensiblities of those 'teenage fangirls' you keep referring to since you really don't know them.
Your frustration regarding the show is understandable and the blame solely and solely lies on the makers.
Manik has been more of a leader always...he is not perfect, never has been and I certainly don't expect him to either.He has his share of flaws and so do the rest.He is too closed off, probably a result of his past experiences and he is extremely protective of his friends to the point of being acutely and unnaturally perhaps, selfless. It is always manik who has to rescue the others, it is always him who gets to shoulder the responsibility of his friends and them not being able to stand up for themselves on their own and when it's his turn, nobody is there for him...that is where I have a problem with the show.
As for Cabir and Harshad, I totally agree with you...I feel for Cabir,I really do because of his current situation.He is slowly growing up but Karma always has a way of catching up with you...look how he is being punished now for his past indiscretions.The very own tools that he used to mock others are now being used against him.
Speaking about Harshad, he has always been a grey shaded character...but off-late his obsession with defeating fab5 overrides everything good that he has ever done...him turning black from grey is not something that any of us wish for and the fault lies only in the creatives.
Coming to Navya...I'm surprised you find her to be a real character. I find Nandini much more real and wise...behind Nandini's sweet exterior lies a strong, resilient and vulnerable girl which is much more relatable than the insipid , dumb, naive to a fault and plain stupid characterisation of Navya.She is the most poorly-etched character ever.I would have still empathised ,if her character showed any growth but alas! She is portrayed as an absolutely clueless dumb-ass.
Nandini on the other hand, is much more worldly wise and mature.
Also, I have to disagree to your comments about chemistry...chemistry comes naturally, it comes with a good script and good acting.Manik and Nandu have always had that spark, that connection in them which Nandini and Dhruv lack. Chemistry doesn't come with kissing or intimate scenes, but comes with good execution. I am all for showing realism in the show but I do not understand how Nandini and Dhruv's coming together will enforce that idea.Dhruv doesn't understand Nandini as Manik does, Dhruv hasn't seen the vulnerable side to her, Dhruv isn't the one who Nandini finds both a physical and mental connection with and Dhruv certainly isn't the one who knows her deepest thoughts and feelings.
Dhruv's character was sweet initially but ha seen no growth over time.He is still as clueless he is about his friends as he is about Nandini.And speaking of Mukti, she sure has a lot of layers to her.She isn't just sleeping with people and partying her heart out...of late, we got to see her struggles with combating depression and heartbreak, her trauma, her nervous breakdown and the inherent goodness in her character that she tries to hide behind her tough exterior in her conversations with navya.
Alya and Manik's relationship disintegrated because of the evident lack of trust between them but it was evident that there were cracks from much before.What they shared wasn't true love in the avtual sense,their relationship was more of a relationship of convenience arising out of other's expectations partly and partly out of prolonged companionship.Manik did not share his deeest thoughts with Alya and neither did she.Their parting of ways was inevitable.
Finally, I do feel that cliched tracks take away the novelty of the show and neither the 'teenage fangirls'nor the 'general viewers'want that, I assure you.. We all love MaNan because they are beautiful, they are imperfectly perfect and they make the show even better than it already is. TRP is important and so are the youtube likes but one thing I can confidently say is that this show isn't blindly running behind either.Otherwise they could have made a Gopi bahu part 2 or a Naitik part 2...the fact that they are introducing tracks like homosexuality goes on to show that the makers are trying to do something different.
However, at the end of the day, this is still an Indian telly soap...letting go of all the common tropes all at once won't be easy and I fervently hope that the current track is just a bad phase in the history of the show.Like you, all of us enjoy something different, something unique, something that we can relate to ,something that we can go 'wow'at...be it the MaNan love story, the DhruLya friendshio, the RaghBir angle or the music that is integral to the show.
Edited by medha16 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gudakesha


Then you could have showed yourself a back button and tried to increase your no of posts somewheer else after reading..😆

Dear its an open n free forum sabko right h ki wo kisk post par cmmnt kark apne post increase karta h it's her/him opinion so usne agree nhi kiya simple
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArshiR

I came here in the forum aftr such a long gap

until yesterday i was tellin to myself "shit this place has turned into a war zone & i wanted out" 😆
today i don't Regret bein here JUST FOR THIS POST
👏 u jst put into words my own thoughts regardin the shw
i agree to every point of urs
I expected a hell lot from this shw yet it turned out the same as usual Hindi drama which i literally hate
but some say it "get over the logic & enjoy the shw cuz its for entertainment"
that's y i said nthg instead walked out
the shw would't hurt a bit to put some senses into it n come out a l'il realistic 😕
all the characters in the shw are one among us n so we do feel 'em nah aftrall
thank you for comin up with such clear notes


I agree. In initial 3 months this forum was going in slow pace and was very peaceful. But cliched story made this a hue and cry place. How can we get over the logic? I can't cut my rationality just because i'm online and no one knows me in this virtual world.
Thanks a lot for liking this post and making me feel i have not done wrong by posting this.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: Super_Zaya

Dear its an open n free forum sabko right h ki wo kisk post par cmmnt kark apne post increase karta h it's her/him opinion so usne agree nhi kiya simple

You are new here. So you may not know. Aise bekar ke comments se posts increase toh hote hai, lekin fights bhi create hoti hai. If someone doesnt like a post or comment it is understood they dont agree. No need to deliberately post when you have NO COMMENTS.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I mean yeah, ofc.
But considering the target audience is "teenage fangirls", it makes sense that it panders to their demands.
Never blame an audience for a shows shortcoming, I always say. They gathered that their audience loved MaNan and decided to go with it, from the views on their YT channel you can see those with MaNan do much better than those without. Every show wants to sell.

I don't see this as a problem. You should be able to be logical and satisfy your core audience.


Edited by Firebolt - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gudakesha



Harshad did not take just his revenge but every student's revenge who suffered in the hands of fab-5 and couldnt do anything because their leader's mom is the trustee of the college.
I dont know if Dhruv would have done the same - even if he did he would have atleast told Manik - just like how he told Manik that he broke up his friendship with Nandini just because he doenst like it and he prefers him over her.
Well my intention is to make atleast one person to look at show in different view. Am really glad you did.😊



Yes..thats right.. both about revenge against Fab5 and dhruv trusting Manik..
Even in yesterday's episode i thought there would be Nandini-Navya scene..Navya left Nandini and decided to console Harshad..Friendship is starting to disaapear from screen.. 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sorry, but I disagree- if not with everything, but with a lot of things. 😊

1- Chemistry doesn't come with near-kiss scenes, the chemistry b/w Parth and Niti have ALWAYS been there (yeah, even when Manik was being an ass to her). Your comment on their chemistry kinda cracked me up so I had to mention this!

2- Mukti is just another flinging, pill-popping girl, really? Are you forgetting her scenes with Navya in the recent past? Have you forgotten her direct "I'll sleep with you"?

3- I agree with you an the whole Cabir and Harshad thing. Lets just say Cabir is gonna get a dose of his own medicine. I've always maintained that "Every dog has his day" and Fab 5 are the 'Reservoir Dogs' so they're gonna have BIG DAYS!

4- I also agree on Harshad's character turning 'black' from 'grey'. Blame the CV's for that, but I haven't forgotten what he'd done for Mukti, Navya and Nandini when they needed someone the most! It's just this one-dimensional hatred/obsession with Fab 5- that makes him care less about everything else- is what pisses me off!

5- Fab 5 are not Marauders. And Manik is indeed the certified mummy/daddy of that group. He has to be there for everyone, but he cannot find anyone when he needs them.

6- I have spoken enough on the Manik-Aalya break, Aalya's POV and Manik's POV, so I wont rant about that here.

7- MaNan are the main point of the show- it has been established from the first episode. And in case you didn't know, this show was titled 'Humko ishq ne maare' previously.

8- I once again agree with you that secrets and suspense shouldn't be stretched for too long.

9- Manik... *sigh*, I'm taking a break from talking about him now. But let me tell you, you are WRONG about girls here just wanting to be in Nandu's shoes cause they want Manik obsessed for her.

10- Finally- this is an Indian show, you cannot expect the makers to always go the YRF way and show us a pre-shot series so that they don't have to bend to the demand of the fans. TRP MATTERS!
Edited by shelly_08 - 10 years ago

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