Will KY2 become cliched because of MaNan? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Gudakesha

I agree. In initial 3 months this forum was going in slow pace and was very peaceful. But cliched story made this a hue and cry place. How can we get over the logic? I can't cut my rationality just because i'm online and no one knows me in this virtual world.

Thanks a lot for liking this post and making me feel i have not done wrong by posting this.

Originally posted by: -silhouette-

First off hats off to you for writing a review which is so much in depth. :) I agree with a lot of things you said but not with the WAY you said it. I would call KY2 team the pioneers of "break the cliched". I am guessing this is new to them which is why along the way they have made a few mistakes but not big enough for me to leave the show, personally.

Haven't said that, Niti for you is not a realistic character but I have seen many people like her in my life. Besides, morally, we have seen her speak against stuff which I think a lot of people do. Even you and me. They haven't shown her do anything "mahan" as such so I don't get why she is being targeted by everyone. Come to think of it Navyas character from the moment she stepped in the show has been a cliched. Small town girl goes to the big city to fulfill her dreams. For instance, I don't get how she can be so blinded by just a mere crush not even love, crush? I mean come on. Though I do agree that it's her story as well so the CVs should focus on her story as well.

I don't get how Manik was not true to what he had with Alya. Alya was the one who was insecure in the relationship. It wasn't until they broke up that Manik saw Nandini as something more. Alya in my eyes isn't a vamp. Like every teenager she wants what was constant in her life. But, I think their breakup is good for the character development of Alya. She can now discover herself and who SHE is.

What they did to Dhruvs character is unforgivable. I was team Dhruv at first but they ruined it for me. :/ I also completely agree with what you said about Cabir and Harshad, especially with how Cabir is being portrayed.

It's just that I don't think MaNan are the sole reason for the show turning into a cliched.

Originally posted by: shelly_08

Sorry, but I disagree- if not with everything, but with a lot of things. 😊

1- Chemistry doesn't come with near-kiss scenes, the chemistry b/w Parth and Niti have ALWAYS been there (yeah, even when Manik was being an ass to her). Your comment on their chemistry kinda cracked me up so I had to mention this!

I disagree on this, chemistry comes only with near kiss and proximity scenes. Isn't this the reason why Sandhya-Suraj of Diya aur baati or Jodha-Akbar of Jodha Akbar Zee have less fans compared to Randhir Sanyukta of Sadda Haq or Manik Nandini or Zain Aliya of Beintehaa? Chemistry between MaNan wasnt there when he in first two MaNan scenes he didnt notice her at all, or in the canteen scene where he threw eggs on her. It started from where Nandini goes to Alya's house and Manik apprears shirtless and gets close to her.

2- Mukti is just another flinging, pill-popping girl, really? Are you forgetting her scenes with Navya in the recent past? Have you forgotten her direct "I'll sleep with you"?

Oh yes, can tell me the number of such scenes compared to her pill popping and flinging scenes? Two scenes with Navya to warn about Harshad and one seen of 'i'll sleep with you'. Total - 3 in the span of 5 months. That doesnt change her characterization.

3- I agree with you an the whole Cabir and Harshad thing. Lets just say Cabir is gonna get a dose of his own medicine. I've always maintained that "Every dog has his day" and Fab 5 are the 'Reservoir Dogs' so they're gonna have BIG DAYS!

Fab-5 are bheegi billis in sher ki khaal. If they show them as reservoir dogs that will be out of characterization and distortion. And cliched too. No one is invincible.

4- I also agree on Harshad's character turning 'black' from 'grey'. Blame the CV's for that, but I haven't forgotten what he'd done for Mukti, Navya and Nandini when they needed someone the most! It's just this one-dimensional hatred/obsession with Fab 5- that makes him care less about everything else- is what pisses me off!

I dont think his character is black as what everyone perceives. Just because he is against our hero doesnt make him a villain.

5- Fab 5 are not Marauders. And Manik is indeed the certified mummy/daddy of that group. He has to be there for everyone, but he cannot find anyone when he needs them.

Manik doesnt feel he is the mummy daddy of the group, why are everyone feeling so. And when he cant find anyone when he needs them then it is his fault. Did he ever tried to contact them, trust them? No. If he cant trust the people who come to you at his beck and call them whom will he trust - he must be having trust issues or CVs should show he needs Nandini.

6- I have spoken enough on the Manik-Aalya break, Aalya's POV and Manik's POV, so I wont rant about that here.

7- MaNan are the main point of the show- it has been established from the first episode. And in case you didn't know, this show was titled 'Humko ishq ne maare' previously.

And you say those "Hum" are MaNan? Well I see all the characters in this "hum" as everyone is love struck. And how does it matter what is the working title of the show - the point is it is changed and changed to KY2 for a reason because it did not fit.

8- I once again agree with you that secrets and suspense shouldn't be stretched for too long.

9- Manik... *sigh*, I'm taking a break from talking about him now. But let me tell you, you are WRONG about girls here just wanting to be in Nandu's shoes cause they want Manik obsessed for her.

I dont mean everyone here. It is for those who put themselves in Nandu's shoes. I'm sure you dont know all the 476 people of the forum.

10- Finally- this is an Indian show, you cannot expect the makers to always go the YRF way and show us a pre-shot series so that they don't have to bend to the demand of the fans. TRP MATTERS!

TRP matters. But giving a freshness in the story will also give TRPs. If they go the cliched way they wont gain TRPs they'll lose TRPs which they earned with the chemistry of the leads. If we are allowed to discuss other channels and shows here I can give you many examples on how shows lost because of a cliched story. And who better than Vikas Gupta knows this?

Originally posted by: shelly_08

Sorry, but I disagree- if not with everything, but with a lot of things. 😊

1- Chemistry doesn't come with near-kiss scenes, the chemistry b/w Parth and Niti have ALWAYS been there (yeah, even when Manik was being an ass to her). Your comment on their chemistry kinda cracked me up so I had to mention this!

2- Mukti is just another flinging, pill-popping girl, really? Are you forgetting her scenes with Navya in the recent past? Have you forgotten her direct "I'll sleep with you"?

3- I agree with you an the whole Cabir and Harshad thing. Lets just say Cabir is gonna get a dose of his own medicine. I've always maintained that "Every dog has his day" and Fab 5 are the 'Reservoir Dogs' so they're gonna have BIG DAYS!

4- I also agree on Harshad's character turning 'black' from 'grey'. Blame the CV's for that, but I haven't forgotten what he'd done for Mukti, Navya and Nandini when they needed someone the most! It's just this one-dimensional hatred/obsession with Fab 5- that makes him care less about everything else- is what pisses me off!

5- Fab 5 are not Marauders. And Manik is indeed the certified mummy/daddy of that group. He has to be there for everyone, but he cannot find anyone when he needs them.

6- I have spoken enough on the Manik-Aalya break, Aalya's POV and Manik's POV, so I wont rant about that here.

7- MaNan are the main point of the show- it has been established from the first episode. And in case you didn't know, this show was titled 'Humko ishq ne maare' previously.

8- I once again agree with you that secrets and suspense shouldn't be stretched for too long.

9- Manik... *sigh*, I'm taking a break from talking about him now. But let me tell you, you are WRONG about girls here just wanting to be in Nandu's shoes cause they want Manik obsessed for her.

10- Finally- this is an Indian show, you cannot expect the makers to always go the YRF way and show us a pre-shot series so that they don't have to bend to the demand of the fans. TRP MATTERS!

Originally posted by: Haruhi

Dude where have u been all these time??
Shall I tag this thread to lostboy coz he seriously need to read this.
Well written and had fun reading it. Plus Good Luck on fan girls comment! You need it. 😛

I completely agree with ya on following parts..

Navya- could'nt have said better. Veebha was one of the reasons I starting watching this show but what did i get? She following around harshad ji and Nandu! She not second but fourth-fifth wheel in this show. If they planned to use her for comic relief then so be it but that doesn't mean that she can be portrayed as a fool!

Dhruv- I've complained enough but cvs don't give a damn! But I don't agree with ya on druni's romantic part! No I don't want it! Why can't they be just friends? Can't a guy n gal be best pals in these youth shows?? Why does it always got to be romantic?? I always shipped guy-gal non romantic tracks and it be great if v get one from druni.

Cabir-Harshad- cant agree with ya more on this. Suddenly harsh became jerkshad and Cabir a victim!! We all ok I honesty wanted something like this for Cabir. That jerk@$$ deserves it! Besides this will be his karma! Remember shahid and navy's incident for Pete's sake!!! I have no issues with his "choices" though! But taking humiliating videos of others and make it viral, he totally deserves this! Harshad, Iam very much interested in what exactly happened b/w him and fab5!

More footage for others- yea complained a lot A LOT about this too but nooo it only gets worse.. Ky2 is about yaariyan again for Pete's sake!!

Manan-manik- I never had problem with manan, infact being a gal myself i loved the way how their scenes were written and honestly I found that beautiful! But the footage time is what pisses.. At some point the cvs forgot what this show is all about! I don't ship manan coz of this and also yea hate the way how dhruv is always dragged between them!!! Kyun iss angle mein hamesha triangle hote hai?? And in the end if the day, the third will end up getting bashed. I call this a CLICH!!!!
And manik, it's always been a problem with these stereotypical tsundere characters! They'll be a monster then a Romeo followed by a martyr and then saint pops out later Majnu comes who will turn into a mogambo yadha yadha yadha! I always hate these tsundere male leads .. They alwys end up hurting their female leads along with themselves and the ppl around them!! But parth is great though with his acting.

Typed via phone.. Forgive for typos

Originally posted by: sparkle2985

very very well written and sensible post 👏 👏 👏