Will KY2 become cliched because of MaNan? - Page 4

Originally posted by: Gudakesha

Now I'm actually wondering if I should quit watching Kaisi Yeh Yaariyan which is not doing anything to justify it's title.

Need change of title "Kaisi Yeh Manik ki Yaariyan and Nazdikiyan"😆

And the only people I blame for this are CVs and Lost Boy production team because they just give into the demands of immature teenage fangirls who watch a show just for the sake of drooling.

I am 33 I still drool over Manan scenes😆

Dhruv - The prospective third guy between their favourite couple looks like a "bhai" for her just because they don't have any CHEMISTRY??? Like seriously?

I agree, CVs made Dhruv nothing but a puppet controlled by Manik/Alya/Nandini and Aliens😆 Utkarsh looks much much better offscreen😊

Alya - The hero's ex-girlfriend who is also one of his best friends is hated and turned into a selfish vamp? Just because she doesnt have to come between the leads? And not to forget DhuLya are shipped for the same reason with imaginary cuteness and chemistry (which they don't have any, they are just friends - a part of Fab-5 and Dhruv speaks to everyone among Fab-5 closely not just Manik)

I guess CVs know Dhruv will be hurt and Alya already hurt so why not pair them? I don't agree that all need to get a guy/girl that also from their friend/enemy group. I think showing Dhruv with Alya makes Dhruv character more weak as prospective second lead.

Harshad - The guys who was one of the targets of Fab-5 and has been a victim of their bullying suddenly becomes villain (and is supposedly a DARK character and BEYOND REDEMPTION - if they know what is the meaning of redemption in first place and and which are the sins that are beyond redemption)

Ya Harshad is turning too much negative, I liked how he cares for Alya

Mukti - Confined to sleeping with different men and taking anti-depressants. She has no role more than this.

Agree

Navya - Isn't this show Navya's story too? Her journey from a small town to her dreams via SPACE Academy? Did CVs forget this? And she is limited to drooling on Harshad.

Very much agree, first episode it seemed there r two female leads, but Navya has only one thing to do drool over Harshad. Veebha deserves much better.

Cabir - suddenly people sympathize with him and call him GREY while Harshad is BLACK. Ofcourse person who puts up a nude video and nude pics in a LOCKED NOTICEBOARD OF A COLLEGE - his crime suddenly looks less punishable or rather not punishable at all infront of the one who has revealed his sexual orientation. If we want LGBTs to have their equal rights to us then shouldn't their punishments be equal too? Why should we overlook their gruesome mistakes just because they are LGBTs and we feel it's out right to PITY them?

Cabir getting good screen space which I like, I like how Ayaz acts as gay. I even like Raghav. Cabir used to bully because he thought that what people will do if they come to know his secret. It was kind of revenge why others r normal and why others can't accept him normally. He finally gets punished and the sad truth is "yes no one will accept him"

Though atleast they r giving some importance to Cabir love story other than Manan.

All that we see on screen is MaNan MaNan and MaNan.. I love them too.. But definitely not at the cost of the story. As a regular viewer of TV shows I want something new. In western shows there are no fixed couple. Because that is not the case in real life too.

I agree, but its very true that KYY forum got millions of members after Manan love story started. I myself witnessed how suddenly there r 10 VMs made every day..btw I am a VM maker...how suddenly My old Manan VM gets >25K views, suddenly IF rank of Parth Niti and KYY increased suddenly. No doubt CVs showing what majority wants to see. And Parth and Niti really overshadows everyone, I have no doubt in that. But very true CVs can't spoil acting talents of other fab actors specially Veebha, Charlie, Abhishek and new comer Utkarsh

There is a talk that Manik is so called looser and poor guy because everyone depends on him.

That is NOT the case. That is simply in fangirl's head because they cannot see anything beyond Manik. If Fab-5 depends on Manik, Manik depends on them too. Without Fab-5 Manik Malhotra is nothing. He is a ZERO. And even Nandini Murthy cannot fill the void of Fab-5 in his life. These are the same friends who ended up at Manik's house at late night UNEXPECTEDLY ONE BY ONE Just to see how he is and how is he feeling, if he is ok and not upset. That is their friendship. Just a message, not even a call from Manik and they forgo their sleep and run to him at late hour. Please tell me how do it? (without giving excuses of transport, safety etc etc.. That is fab-5 friendship) They chose Manik as their leader because they are a not just a group of friends but one gang too and every group and gang has to have a leader just like how a cricket team and a classroom has a captain and a monitor respectively, because there will be issues and there will be events and someone has to take the decisions for everyone. So Manik was chosen. That doesnt make him a "bechaara" or whatsoever.

I agree that Manik is just one of the Fab 5... but no doubt he is more impressive than others😆 Don't blame fangirls because majority wins😆 I myself felt weird how from Fab 5 CVs showed how only Manik is always there for Dhruv or Cabir... but no doubt I liked Manik comforting Dhruv/Cabir if it was anyone else i might have skipped the part😆

Honestly there are too many flaw in Manik's character - No, I'm not talking about the bullying part.

He was wrong bullying😆

Manik says that love is trust and broke up with Alya just because she could'nt trust him. Did he once retrospect why she couldnt trust him? She may have seen him bullying many girls, taking friendly with many girls, Mukti - who roams around him in bikinis and spends time alone with him - she trusts her and trust him with her, then why couldn't she trust his equation with Nandini?

Because he was actually obsessed with her - which is equal to cheating in a relationship. This sensitive issue not highlighted in the show, nor it is ever spoken in this forum because as long as they show hot MaNan chemistry everything is ok, isnt it? Since india-forums comprises of 99% of girls, i would ask them to put themselves in the shoes of Alya and think. (since it is the tendency that people may have put themselves in the shoes of Nandini because they like Manik to get obsessed by them) So in this case even Manik broke Alya's trust, so which trust is he talking about?

When he broke up with Alya, he did not show a single sign of remorse or pain - she has been with him for SEVEN YEARS Dammit! And they are showing that all that they had between them is passion, or physical attraction and the only thing they both did together is sleep with each other. (yes, they did and no one among Fab-5 is virgin except Dhruv)

He actually didn't break up for the trust issue, it was just a lame excuse, he did because he no more loved her, he was lattu over Nandini😆 He actually ditched Alya😆 So he can't give excuse of trust😆

But if all boys r like sati savitri serial would have been super flop one. This is for entertainment its not "Astha TV"😆 And Love happens it cannot be defined or rules can't control it. U can't just describe Manik Alya relationship as only physical. Manik was yet to meet the perfect girl. It happens in real life too. That's why its life not a English to E nglish dictionary.

Coming to Dhruv - his character growth stopped somewhere in this MaNan fiasco. Dhruv is the only one who completely understands Manik. When he broke up with Alya he did not tell anyone - but without saying anything Dhruv understood they broke up. He punched Manik when he apparently sent goons behind Nandini because Manik is CAPABLE of doing such a thing. Yes, he is, you can't deny that. But when Manik said one word that he "did not" send the goons - Dhruv believed him because his buddy will never lie to him. (Don't argue that Nandini had to convince him - because at that time Manik did not say anything after punch - it was only later when Dhruv patched up that he said he did not send any goons - before that he did not deny it)

I agree suddenly Dhruv is a like puppet nothing more earlier he was much better. They destroyed the character the day Manik told Nandini "He covered everything up, it was him to kept Dhruv, his chamcha to save Navya or Shahid".

Now coming to the most useless argument on why he could not read Manik's eyes being said when he said he loves Nandini - Dhruv is human - not some antaryami baba. He has never seen MaNan talking to each other like humans in first place. If only he had seen such or even better if he had seen shayad yehi hai pyar dance then he would have immediately known that Manik loves her - just like he figured it out that when his breakup happened. The point is Manik keeps too many secrets from his friends and he expects everyone to come out clean with him. You can only demand what you are capable to give.

Agree

He did not trust Dhruv with his little secret that he and Nandini are a couple, he did not trust Dhruv that he will understand him, then what right does he have to demand trust? What right does he have to give lectures on trust and surround his ideologies on trust?

😆 Agree

He felt betrayed and hurt when Cabir lied to him and hid his secret from him - but Manik did you tell your secret to him? You lied every moment, on every step to him regarding your progressing relationship with Nandini, you lied why were you so late when Mukti attempted suicide, when you didnt turn up for musical intra competition and most importantly your break up with Alya and final nail in the coffin your affair with Nandini - and you expect everyone to bare their souls to you and you have fun at their expense? How fair is it? Please CVs, show Manik as the ultimate bully but dont show him as a HYPOCRITE.

Agree😆

(^^^ I'M SURE THIS ISSUE WILL NEVER BE ADDRESSED IN THE SHOW AS WELL AS IN THE FORUM, BUT I HAVE WRITTEN THIS ONLY FOR RETROSPECTION - TO LOOK AT RATIONALITY AND DEEPER INSIGHT INTO MANIK'S CHARACTER.)

Having broken Alya and Dhruv's trust, he hadn't kept Nandini's trust either. A silly argument has come up that does Nandini really love Manik? Why didn't she trust his feelings when she made the promises of trusting him forever? Now this is the moment where you have to keep yourself in Nandini's shoes. A guy whom you have hated so much, suddenly shows his physical attraction towards you in missed kiss attempts and then suddenly becomes nice to you, and after a drunken sequence you fall in love with him, knowing of his breakup you start and affair with him and kiss him and suddenly the next day you hear it was all a farce, a perfect betrayal - what are you supposed to do? If you fell in love with a friend or a person whom you have known for years then she may not believe any such things - but here she fell in love with an enemy and a person whom she knows barely two months out of which it has only been a week since you spoke like a human with him. How is she not supposed to believe him? Why is a woman scorned blamed for a hot dashing Byronic Hero? Why are we taking online medium as a platform to shut off our brains and rationality?

😆 But he is so adorable😳 I always feel like hugging him. He is more lovable for these flaws. He is like Baba Manik who thinks he can fix everything but immature at heart😳

Regarding Nandini, well her character is very much unreal unlike Navya's character which is very much real and a perfect mix, but Nandini's - No. But very serene to watch onscreen. Such miss-goody-two-shoes characters are necessary in a show. So I have no complaints.

Agree😆 Though miss all good was much much better when she responded to Manik's moves...that was normal... I would have hated if like good girl he stopped Manik saying "Ayappa I am here only to sing"😆

If CVs don't want to make this show TRP-centric and have any intentions to break the cliche, then here are few things I would like to see in MTV Kaisi yeh yaariyan.

1. Harshad falling in love with Navya (screw the chemistry because even Parth and Niti did not have chemistry until they showed those almost kiss proximity scenes)

I will be happy if Harshad patches up with Mukti and Navya gets a sudhra hua guy. I don't agree about Manan chemistry, I felt the chemistry even from their first interaction.

2. Dhruv and Nandini being a beautiful couple for few months, then break up and make MaNan the end game with another beautiful journey (to break the cliche since we never saw love triangles in shows - there were only possibilities but not implemented) - Oh yes, don't care about chemistry here too because my neurons are more in control than my hormones. Nandini has right to move one from the guy who did the so-called-sacrifice breaking her trust and his friend's trust.

Don't agree as CVs already made Dhruv spineless and boring, if u want triangualr love story u need a new guy

3. Fab-5 occupying 80% of screen space rest 20% for MaNan, in shot all the EIGHT character to have EQUAL SCREEN SPACE.

Then U will keep watching and 80% viewers will STOP watching😛

4. Dont drag stupid suspense too long - like Nayonika-Raghav, Manik's dad, Harshad-Manik, Harshad-Nayonika, Harshad-Mukti and last but very important Dhruv-Rishabh and their attacks. You should learn from GEC channels and their top shows on how to deal with suspenses (Minus Balaji shows, because they are horrible with it, hence they are on bottom of the table)

Agree

5. Show some passion for music in NH3. Showing fab-5 as the invincible band and NH3 can win only by cheating is so unreal and cliched. Whenever a new band comes there will be new-ness, people look forward to that band first and new-ness is the thing which always tops (take examples from real bollywood music - how Aashiqui-2 music broke away from stereotypes and won the audience)

Agree they should show more music, may be some fresh compostions

6. Finally, please show us about friendship - do not thrive on chemistry always. Don't show Manik as Nandini-obsessed love struck puppy (which you have already shown initially and I felt like i have seen this umpteen times on Indian youth shows) Show him a man of guts who can do anything for his friends and trusts them the same way as he expects them to be.

Ya agree😊

OR

If you cannot show anything as such then show MaNan reunion right away and instil some more kissing scenes or take permission for some bed scenes and show even those and run your show based on fangirling and internet views. You'll end up like the once upon a time top show of your rival channel which is struggling for trps now inspite of still being top in channel.

I don't agree, I am loving this track, but agree they should not drag it😊

God Bless Everyone

Love,

Tich.

P.S: I'm not against proximity scenes. And you can make it out from my DP icon. Infact I'm happy TV shows are not shying away from showing actual kisses. But anything of too much is irritating. Ultimately if story and new-ness/freshness is not there, everything goes down the drain.

Very good post, I agree with u in some respect and disagree in some, hope u r OK with it, sorry for my jokes, I hope u dont mind

It's a 20 mins show. I think this is a major set back of Indian TV itself.

Very sensibly written post!!

Originally posted by: Gudakesha

Now I'm actually wondering if I should quit watching Kaisi Yeh Yaariyan which is not doing anything to justify it's title.

And the only people I blame for this are CVs and Lost Boy production team because they just give into the demands of immature teenage fangirls who watch a show just for the sake of drooling.

Dhruv - The prospective third guy between their favourite couple looks like a "bhai" for her just because they don't have any CHEMISTRY??? Like seriously? And not to forget he becomes the POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE character suddenly so that he doesn't come between MaNan.

Alya - The hero's ex-girlfriend who is also one of his best friends is hated and turned into a selfish vamp? Just because she doesnt have to come between the leads? And not to forget DhuLya are shipped for the same reason with imaginary cuteness and chemistry (which they don't have any, they are just friends - a part of Fab-5 and Dhruv speaks to everyone among Fab-5 closely not just Manik)

Harshad - The guys who was one of the targets of Fab-5 and has been a victim of their bullying suddenly becomes villain (and is supposedly a DARK character and BEYOND REDEMPTION - if they know what is the meaning of redemption in first place and and which are the sins that are beyond redemption)

Mukti - Confined to sleeping with different men and taking anti-depressants. She has no role more than this.

Navya - Isn't this show Navya's story too? Her journey from a small town to her dreams via SPACE Academy? Did CVs forget this? And she is limited to drooling on Harshad.

Cabir - suddenly people sympathize with him and call him GREY while Harshad is BLACK. Ofcourse person who puts up a nude video and nude pics in a LOCKED NOTICEBOARD OF A COLLEGE - his crime suddenly looks less punishable or rather not punishable at all infront of the one who has revealed his sexual orientation. If we want LGBTs to have their equal rights to us then shouldn't their punishments be equal too? Why should we overlook their gruesome mistakes just because they are LGBTs and we feel it's out right to PITY them?

All that we see on screen is MaNan MaNan and MaNan.. I love them too.. But definitely not at the cost of the story. As a regular viewer of TV shows I want something new.

In western shows there are no fixed couple. Because that is not the case in real life too.

There is a talk that Manik is so called looser and poor guy because everyone depends on him.

That is NOT the case. That is simply in fangirl's head because they cannot see anything beyond Manik. If Fab-5 depends on Manik, Manik depends on them too. Without Fab-5 Manik Malhotra is nothing. He is a ZERO. And even Nandini Murthy cannot fill the void of Fab-5 in his life. These are the same friends who ended up at Manik's house at late night UNEXPECTEDLY ONE BY ONE Just to see how he is and how is he feeling, if he is ok and not upset. That is their friendship. Just a message, not even a call from Manik and they forgo their sleep and run to him at late hour. Please tell me how do it? (without giving excuses of transport, safety etc etc.. That is fab-5 friendship) They chose Manik as their leader because they are a not just a group of friends but one gang too and every group and gang has to have a leader just like how a cricket team and a classroom has a captain and a monitor respectively, because there will be issues and there will be events and someone has to take the decisions for everyone. So Manik was chosen. That doesnt make him a "bechaara" or whatsoever.

Honestly there are too many flaw in Manik's character - No, I'm not talking about the bullying part.

Manik says that love is trust and broke up with Alya just because she could'nt trust him. Did he once retrospect why she couldnt trust him? She may have seen him bullying many girls, taking friendly with many girls, Mukti - who roams around him in bikinis and spends time alone with him - she trusts her and trust him with her, then why couldn't she trust his equation with Nandini? Because he was actually obsessed with her - which is equal to cheating in a relationship. This sensitive issue not highlighted in the show, nor it is ever spoken in this forum because as long as they show hot MaNan chemistry everything is ok, isnt it? Since indai-forums comprises of 99% of girls, i would ask them to put themselves in the shoes of Alya and think. (since it is the tendency that people may have put themselves in the shoes of Nandini because they like Manik to get obsessed by them) So in this case even Manik broke Alya's trust, so which trust is he talking about?

When he broke up with Alya, he did not show a single sign of remorse or pain - she has been with him for SEVEN YEARS Dammit! And they are showing that all that they had between them is passion, or physical attraction and the only thing they both did together is sleep with each other. (yes, they did and no one among Fab-5 is virgin except Dhruv)

Coming to Dhruv - his character growth stopped somewhere in this MaNan fiasco. Dhruv is the only one who completely understands Manik. When he broke up with Alya he did not tell anyone - but without saying anything Dhruv understood they broke up. He punched Manik when he apparently sent goons behind Nandini because Manik is CAPABLE of doing such a thing. Yes, he is, you can't deny that. But when Manik said one word that he "did not" send the goons - Dhruv believed him because his buddy will never lie to him. (Don't argue that Nandini had to convince him - because at that time Manik did not say anything after punch - it was only later when Dhruv patched up that he said he did not send any goons - before that he did not deny it)

Now coming to the most useless argument on why he could not read Manik's eyes being said when he said he loves Nandini - Dhruv is human - not some antaryami baba. He has never seen MaNan talking to each other like humans in first place. If only he had seen such or even better if he had seen shayad yehi hai pyar dance then he would have immediately known that Manik loves her - just like he figured it out that when his breakup happened.

The point is Manik keeps too many secrets from his friends and he expects everyone to come out clean with him. You can only demand what you are capable to give.

He did not trust Dhruv with his little secret that he and Nandini are a couple, he did not trust Dhruv that he will understand him, then what right does he have to demand trust? What right does he have to give lectures on trust and surround his ideologies on trust?

He felt betrayed and hurt when Cabir lied to him and hid his secret from him - but Manik did you tell your secret to him? You lied every moment, on every step to him regarding your progressing relationship with Nandini, you lied why were you so late when Mukti attempted suicide, when you didnt turn up for musical intra competition and most importantly your break up with Alya and final nail in the coffin your affair with Nandini - and you expect everyone to bare their souls to you and you have fun at their expense? How fair is it? Please CVs, show Manik as the ultimate bully but dont show him as a HYPOCRITE.

(^^^ I'M SURE THIS ISSUE WILL NEVER BE ADDRESSED IN THE SHOW AS WELL AS IN THE FORUM, BUT I HAVE WRITTEN THIS ONLY FOR RETROSPECTION - TO LOOK AT RATIONALITY AND DEEPER INSIGHT INTO MANIK'S CHARACTER.)

Having broken Alya and Dhruv's trust, he hadn't kept Nandini's trust either. A silly argument has come up that does Nandini really love Manik? Why didn't she trust his feelings when she made the promises of trusting him forever? Now this is the moment where you have to keep yourself in Nandini's shoes. A guy whom you have hated so much, suddenly shows his physical attraction towards you in missed kiss attempts and then suddenly becomes nice to you, and after a drunken sequence you fall in love with him, knowing of his breakup you start and affair with him and kiss him and suddenly the next day you hear it was all a farce, a perfect betrayal - what are you supposed to do? If you fell in love with a friend or a person whom you have known for years then she may not believe any such things - but here she fell in love with an enemy and a person whom she knows barely two months out of which it has only been a week since you spoke like a human with him. How is she not supposed to believe him? Why is a woman scorned blamed for a hot dashing Byronic Hero? Why are we taking online medium as a platform to shut off our brains and rationality?

Regarding Nandini, well her character is very much unreal unlike Navya's character which is very much real and a perfect mix, but Nandini's - No. But very serene to watch onscreen. Such miss-goody-two-shoes characters are necessary in a show. So I have no complaints.

If CVs don't want to make this show TRP-centric and have any intentions to break the cliche, then here are few things I would like to see in MTV Kaisi yeh yaariyan.

1. Harshad falling in love with Navya (screw the chemistry because even Parth and Niti did not have chemistry until they showed those almost kiss proximity scenes)

2. Dhruv and Nandini being a beautiful couple for few months, then break up and make MaNan the end game with another beautiful journey (to break the cliche since we never saw love triangles in shows - there were only possibilities but not implemented) - Oh yes, don't care about chemistry here too because my neurons are more in control than my hormones. Nandini has right to move one from the guy who did the so-called-sacrifice breaking her trust and his friend's trust.

3. Fab-5 occupying 80% of screen space rest 20% for MaNan, in shot all the EIGHT character to have EQUAL SCREEN SPACE.

4. Dont drag stupid suspense too long - like Nayonika-Raghav, Manik's dad, Harshad-Manik, Harshad-Nayonika, Harshad-Mukti and last but very important Dhruv-Rishabh and their attacks. You should learn from GEC channels and their top shows on how to deal with suspenses (Minus Balaji shows, because they are horrible with it, hence they are on bottom of the table)

5. Show some passion for music in NH3. Showing fab-5 as the invincible band and NH3 can win only by cheating is so unreal and cliched. Whenever a new band comes there will be new-ness, people look forward to that band first and new-ness is the thing which always tops (take examples from real bollywood music - how Aashiqui-2 music broke away from stereotypes and won the audience)

6. Finally, please show us about friendship - do not thrive on chemistry always. Don't show Manik as Nandini-obsessed love struck puppy (which you have already shown initially and I felt like i have seen this umpteen times on Indian youth shows) Show him a man of guts who can do anything for his friends and trusts them the same way as he expects them to be.

OR

If you cannot show anything as such then show MaNan reunion right away and instil some more kissing scenes or take permission for some bed scenes and show even those and run your show based on fangirling and internet views. You'll end up like the once upon a time top show of your rival channel which is struggling for trps now inspite of still being top in channel.

God Bless Everyone

Love,

Tich.

P.S: I'm not against proximity scenes. And you can make it out from my DP icon. Infact I'm happy TV shows are not shying away from showing actual kisses. But anything of too much is irritating. Ultimately if story and new-ness/freshness is not there, everything goes down the drain.

Sorry for the really long post btw
Lmao my neurones are in control and not my hormones
This is a very good post and I enjoyed reading it so I here are my views on it:
The time frame of this show is that of an American tv show - its very fast paced and each episode has bitsy scenes of each character but a lot happens during each episode - I feel like I am watching an episode of gossip girl or something. So in a sense I am used to the escalating feelings and situations that occur but was only surprised about it because it was shown in an indian drama. And I keep saying this because if we mention the time frame - we are ONLY about 70 episodes into the show and already a lot has happened - if we think about it there has only really been about 2 weeks of full on manan scenes and already a break up (hint hint gossip girl) I just feel people gotta be patient with the show - there is a lot to unfold in the coming episodes and its not as if only manik is being given importance - if so its his feelings which are completely different to that of which he had with alya which I felt was just physical.
I still believe there is a lot of time to reveal everyone's stories of fab 5 (however alya has not been involved very well. I had written a post about alya and how underneath all this she was just trying to mend her ways with manik - it was a 7 year relationship with manik - so I kind of sympathise with her which I can agree too - she just did everything out of affection - her intentions were good but the methodology was wrong. So I feel if cv's take my side then they will shape up alya cause I don't think she is that bad of a character - in fact she is very nice.
I ship dhrulya but I am only saying so for the potential of another romantic angle but hey that's just what I can see.

In terms of harshad and mukti I have not really ever fancied them - harshad is so physical with her everytime they meet - he is always stealing a chance to hold her and almost "hypnotize" her in his googly eyes or whatever. Considering how they are now with each other they'd be utter chaos as a couple therefore I would love to see harshad falling for navya mukti I don't like her as a character - she may be broken but that does not give her the choice to sleep around with men just so she can feel used' or loved' ughh.

Cabir - I dunno - I feel he is not that bad as a character - I mean he is the usual one who fits in with the crowd at school - always taking videos and uploading them - he kinda gels with everyone but its all about character development which is not being taken into consideration. I am not saying he is not wrong but you would expect some guys to be complete d**** sorry for the language but its true. You only sympathise with someone when they go through something bad - and its like the fab5 are unforgivable for the damage they have created when in reality everyone is just as bad as each other. I admit the suicide is unforgivable but I suppose the essence of bullying and cyber bullying is being highlighted very strongly in the show.

The story is still there but I feel manan are only being recognised more into the show otherwise the only romantic angle was ManYa or close to it. Its not a problem, if they are showing so much of manan then there must be a reason. Nandini and navya are of those who will impact the lives of fab5 and I think the introduction of manan will help in achieving that so to me it's a win win situation.

And as far as dhruv, nandu and manik are concerned - always admired dhruv and nandini's friendship and that is how it will remain for me. In terms of manik bein the leader and them depending on him, I feel it's the other way round, manik's definition of friendship is fab5 who have always been there for him. They may look up to him and care but that doesn't mean that they are gonna come at the wag of his tail. He cherishes the friendship so distributes his concern to all the members.

I guess I could agree on how he has hidden a lot from everyone but could it not be simply because he doesn't want to feel the culprit for being the one that breaks fab5's trust? If making manik look up to fab5 means that he will do all he can to maintain the trust of his friends, why not? If you think about it, trusting someone is a very difficult thing to do - and breaking it can be just as easy but building that trust is more difficult - we have already seen that manik has not handled breaking nandini's trust very well so imagine him breaking the trust of fab5 - it would mean losing his friends and maybe even nandini cannot fill that void. If I can see it - manik is being very rational with his feelings for the first time and thinking about someone else other than fab5 and I think as much flawed he is, he has just as much of a soft side.

And if manik and alya's relationship was merely physical then that cannot be helped - I was always so confused with why these two were together cause I didn't see any love' between them than love making' it was a seven year relationship that maybe alya was just in and to some extent I feel she did love him but manik couldn't reciprocate the same feelings maybe cause is just so physically active lmao! But taking into consideration I think manik broke up with alya too soon and didn't give her a chance to explain.

And just because manik didn't deny sending the goons didn't mean he actually did - it was alya who sent them which was end of

Perhaps manik is holding onto his friendship so he doesn't become the heartbreaker or lose his friends - what is he like without his friends? (not the acception of how he is with nandini) what is he like on his own - is he still so egocentric? Or passionately musical I don't know

And manik not saying anything about nandini is too far stretched - would you expect him to be so open about nandini a girl that neither of the fab5 like? I don't think so - and he was careful and secretive about the relationship. - so how would you expect someone like cabir to talk openly about raghav? And no this is not just about the sexuality but it is about the openness in the relationship with your friends.

The story is still moving forward and there is lots to look forward to in terms of content here - so I think manan need to be sidelined here because along with them we forget that other characters are being given screenspace and majority of viewers do watch the show for the gripping story J

I don't agree with some of your points. And I do agree with some others. I've read the comments and I think some of them have voiced what I wanted to say.

I just wanna add here that...

Alya... She's the character that confuses me the most. Even more than Manik. Somedays I like her. Somedays I hate her.

It's like watching two different people. She's the same chick who sent those goons after Nandini. Those goons who were harassing her, could've even raped her if they got carried away. I don't have sympathy for characters like that.

And there's the recent Alya. She's understanding, she's kind. She's trying to get her man back, but without using her poisoned claws. She's so sensible somedays, she leaves me shocked.

It's funny. I don't get her character at all. And yet she happens to be my third favorite person on this show. Well, I am blinded by Manik's hotness. And I just added Nandini second cause am as short as her.

Good post.like to disagree in some point of urs.i want to be in nandinis shoes not bcoz of an obsessed manik.but bcoz the way she leads her life.i hate navya not bcoz she is a small town girl but bcoz she needs a nandhini to even come for the inter college competition.and she easily breaks last time she broke for a mere scold from harshad.if she wre in nnadinis plce and had to deal with what manik done to her.i m sure she will commit sucide.so plz dont even compare nandu with her.in fact everygirl should be like nandu not bcoz in the dream of getting a manik but bcoz who she is.and i dont want dhruni as a couple.i dont want her to be a bella of twilight.i dont like i love u but i love him more types.why this kolaveri againt manik.sterday i made a hate post too.but u know u simply cant stop loving him.i cant.alya and him are never meant to be.he himself doesnt trust and he wants alya to trust him.if i were manik and my girl things i have done an adultery then i will surely leave her.manik has all the issues and thats why i love him if he is perfect or mr.right i wouldnt have loved him.s agree they butchered dhruve.they showed him spineless.and harshad i dont thing he is doing anything wrong with cabir he is returning the favour.he surely has a back up story so no regrets for liking him.i want to see him as grey and he is grey.

Hi...I do agree to some of your points... They should have given more character growth to dhruv..but I do enjoy cabirs love story and muktis breakdowns...multi alya relation..even dhrulya equation not coz I think they may be involved in a romantic relation in future(personally I don't prefer) but coz of the easy friendship and conversations they have...I felt dhruv is closer to alya than manik...however what I want to say is...at the end of the day kyy is just a daily soap..they can't satisfy each and every viewer and they can't make it prefer...they too are human..they can't not make mistake...hell even our life is not completely perfect...we also do some stupid mistakes by acting on our impulses...so y blaming a show..they will show what their viewers want ...but still I will say they have stayed out of normal clichd route as far as possible...just chill and enjoy it...

Wow. That was very well written.
I agree with almost every point. Except I really don't wanna see Dhruni. There was a time I was a hardcore Dhrunian. At first I really wanted them to be a couple even if its for a short time but now all I wanted is a beautiful friendship bond between them.
I really wanna know about Dhruv's past. There is a lot of work to be done on Dhruv's character. I wanna see his growth.
Then The secret of Band of Brothers. If they were so close what happened. And why Harshad hatred is only towards Manik not Dhruv.
This sacrifice track has become really cliche.