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Posted: 6 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly.

Since these ppl love analogies, let’s use another one. Let’s talk plants.

Some plants need less water and sunlight, some need more. Some plants take more time to grow, some need less. So how exactly can both their fates be measured by the same yardstick?

Every show needs to be nurtured in different ways based on its core storyline. To presume within 3 weeks of launch that all shows should get the same level of ratings is a fundamental flaw here.

I can give a clear example of a lovely show called BBKD on Sony. It got the standard 2 weeks of initial promotion and because it didn’t get instantly high TRP, it was canceled within 3 months. On the other end we have an Ekta pouring money into erecting statues for a reboot show which garnered low TRPs for its initial months despite all the hype. Yet no one canceled that show. Money still keeps getting poured into it until some form of melodrama manages to break though and the show is suddenly labeled a huge “success”. Where would this so called success be if this show had been canceled based on the first two months of ratings? Yet this show was allowed to continue while a BBKD was axed. 🤷‍♀️

The powerful run this industry and manipulate the system as per their needs. The audience alone does not decide. The system decides who gets extra chances based on connections.

Exactly.

No one cared about GOT in season 1. It was only after Ned Stark was executed did the show became a rage. There are shows which are immediately picked & there are some which are not. No other show became as rage as GOT did. That doesn't mean no brilliant show came in last 10 years.

POW, Airlines, Everest, Dehleez, Gulmohar Grand, Mukti Bandhan, etc were some brilliant shows which never gained attention & promotion after intial advertising. Then there are Ekta's shows with no story running with high TRP. They don't make shows for urban audience anymore who is forced to switch to online medium. No one wants them to make Walking dead in India but shows that don't insult the intelligence of rational & educated viewers constantly is all we need. Make real stories as they used to do in 90s & on Doordarshan. Those stories used to feel real with characters & struggles we could relate to. Make love stories without unnecessary drama. Make shows in different setups which highlight the conflicts & complex human nature. Tbere are so many stories & literature to pick from. Saas bahu shows like KRPKAB are good with a good plot once can relate to.

Then channels have a bad habit of interfering with the writer's work here. They force writers into making abrupt track changes in good shows which ruins the show's essence. Some shows were butchered like that only.

Then the TRP system is skewed. No one knows how the sampling is done.

Amidst all these faults, such justification is outrageous.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#42

I couldnt bear her bakwas already in the first week , i thought Rohit was the saving grace when he didnt buy into her nonsense and i tried to look at her character beyond all her delusion about her so called great TV shows and characters, but one more episode is dedicated by makers on justifying all their lameness again? 🤔 So i guess this is what for the show is made🤔..It could have been better if they have not shown Rohit sensible from the beginning rather than butchering him within 3 weeks🤔..I know right..After experienced the same in Gathbandhan show within 30 episodes , i was almost sure ki they will butcher Rohit too similarly within a month or two....but yeh toh record break kiya ...its not even 20 episodes🤔...And he is staring at her already🤔 that too when she talking crap🤔...I wonder whether he was lost in her beauty to such an extent that he didnt listen her bakwas? or He actually listened and convinced too buying her nonsense just bcz he is attracted to her?🤔...bcz i have no intention to watch the episode after reading the updates😆....And then its time to say Tata bye bye to the show from my side if this is the case😆...now what is left anyway...him buying into her nonsense is already awful and also now he fell for her too out of nowhere without sar or pair🤔😆..ehh..this is not what i expected from the show🤔...Neither sensible love story nor stable characterizations🤔....Next what ? Rohit turning into half snake half human and doing surgeries and Sona turning to makki again or some new animal ?🤔🤣...


So now I'm feeling bad for the ppl who made a thread on Dr Sippy's reaction 🤣...Faltu mein we included Naagin and DD clips in that thread..here the makers finally justified those lame shows too by showing Rohit buying into her nonsense🤔...Now i guess again one more new thread of Dr.Sippy's reaction is needed...as his reactions are changed in a skates wala kargosh speed 🤔...


He is tilting his head while looking at Sona? bcz thats the only thing left now🤣...


Anyway my ranting is done😂.....And thanks for the update and thanks for saving me from watching this crap by posting this update/review AY😂

Edited by Free_Rein - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: malikakas

The Trp's for Sony shows are significantly lower.. but I guess somehow as a channel they make it work (not entirely sure how). But even on Sony there were a couple that I really liked but got cut short because of bad ratings so now I am kind of weary of starting Sony shows too.

Sony shows manage it through their reality shows which are very popular & online medium.

But even Sony has their limit of dropping to a certain ratings. Highest they expect is 1.0 for their most popular weekdays show. But on relative terms, their shows are a lot better than the big names.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Exactly.

No one cared about GOT in season 1. It was only after Ned Stark was executed did the show became a rage. There are shows which are immediately picked & there are some which are not. No other show became as rage as GOT did. That doesn't mean no brilliant show came in last 10 years.

POW, Airlines, Everest, Dehleez, Gulmohar Grand, Mukti Bandhan, etc were some brilliant shows which never gained attention & promotion after intial advertising. Then there are Ekta's shows with no story running with high TRP. They don't make shows for urban audience anymore who is forced to switch to online medium. No one wants them to make Walking dead in India but shows that don't insult the intelligence of rational & educated viewers constantly is all we need. Make real stories as they used to do in 90s & on Doordarshan. Those stories used to feel real with characters & struggles we could relate to. Make love stories without unnecessary drama. Make shows in different setups which highlight the conflicts & complex human nature. Tbere are so many stories & literature to pick from. Saas bahu shows like KRPKAB are good with a good plot once can relate to.

Then channels have a bad habit of interfering with the writer's work here. They force writers into making abrupt track changes in good shows which ruins the show's essence. Some shows were butchered like that only.

Then the TRP system is skewed. No one knows how the sampling is done.

Amidst all these faults, such justification is outrageous.

@red: They used to make amazing shows back in the day.. but unfortunately I think the audience has shifted a lot. Back in the day it was mainly the elite or the educated that had television so the content was catered towards them. Whereas now the rural areas have a lot more pull due to the number of households. What they should do is divide up the ratings according to demographics with different purchasing powers. High ratings in the educated/upper classes would probably attract a different set of advertisers.

@blue: personally I don't think the justification is outrageous.. because of the shows you have listed above its not like they haven't experimented with different concepts. I loved Dehleez and Everest.... and the channel pushed through to complete both stories. But they just aren't as popular with the large majority of the TrP audience. Channels have to make money.... why would you keep throwing money at experiments when the tried and tested works? It is easy for us to comment but you are talking about gambling with the livelihoods of thousands of set workers who probably want stable jobs instead of never knowing if their paycheck is gonna get cancelled.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This exactly. This is what irritates me as well. The scapegoating of the audience instead of accepting their own failings.

Working hard doesn’t automatically make you immune to criticism in a business that is based on audience feedback.

See i feel it is about treating the tv audience as ‘kuch bhi dikhado, dekh hi lenge’...i cannot believe rashmi sharma produced an amazing film pink which was about women’s rights n dignity ...while she made sasural simar ka as well...what bothers me why can’t she make something like that for tv...why tv audience have to bear simar while on bigger screen we enjoy taapsee...🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Edited by Believer09 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Free_Rein

..ehh..this is not what i expected from the show🤔...Neither sensible love story nor stable characterizations🤔....Next what ? Rohit turning into half snake half human and doing surgeries and Sona turning to makki again or some new animal ?🤔🤣...Why not 🤣. Anything is possible now if Sonakshi’s bs justifications are being considered acceptable 🤷‍♀️😂. After all, if some accept it as “entertainment”, we are all the expected to roll over and take it 🙄

He is tilting his head while looking at Sona? bcz thats the only thing left now🤣...Pretty much 🤣. I was facepalming big time in that scene but most others here are loving it I guess 🤷‍♀️😂


Anyway my ranting is done😂.....And thanks for the update and thanks for saving me from watching this crap by posting this update/review AY😂 Arey no no, Nihara....you MUST post your review whenever you watch. Tumhein Dhinku reviews ki kasam 😝😂

Edited by AreYaar - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Believer09

See i feel it is about treating the tv audience as ‘kuch bhi dikhado, dekh hi lenge’...i cannot believe rashmi sharma produced an amazing film pink which was about women’s rights n dignity ...while she made sasural simar ka as well...what bothers me why can’t she make something like that for tv...why tv audience have to bear simar while on bigger screen we enjoy taapsee...🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Because rural audience apparently gets to “decide” what we all MUST watch on TV and apparently that means only Naagins and Makkhis now 🙄🙄

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Posted: 6 years ago
#48

Re: the livelihood of workers argument....again, then ADMIT that you ARE making brainless stuff only to run the households of the 100 ppl in the cast and crew. Please do NOT insult our intelligence with the holier than thou attitude and pretending like your scripts are “magical” in execution.

Please simply admit you are running a mindless corporation here like any other industry and stop trying to play mahaan. I could have some respect for these types then.

I don’t get why this delusion keeps getting justified 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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Posted: 6 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: malikakas

@red: They used to make amazing shows back in the day.. but unfortunately I think the audience has shifted a lot. Back in the day it was mainly the elite or the educated that had television so the content was catered towards them. Whereas now the rural areas have a lot more pull due to the number of households. What they should do is divide up the ratings according to demographics with different purchasing powers. High ratings in the educated/upper classes would probably attract a different set of advertisers.

@blue: personally I don't think the justification is outrageous.. because of the shows you have listed above its not like they haven't experimented with different concepts. I loved Dehleez and Everest.... and the channel pushed through to complete both stories. But they just aren't as popular with the large majority of the TrP audience. Channels have to make money.... why would you keep throwing money at experiments when the tried and tested works? It is easy for us to comment but you are talking about gambling with the livelihoods of thousands of set workers who probably want stable jobs instead of never knowing if their paycheck is gonna get cancelled.

I agree with demography division & time slots according to that. But one kind of shows have forced lot of audience away from TV & to the international content. Good shows will being that audience back to the TV. Multiple genres will be a good thing as well to attract variety lf audience. One supernatural track became hit, now we have some 6 supernatural shows, none with a proper story. Back then mythology was in rage, before that historical. There is no classification, same kind of genre all the time.

In contrast, let's look at Sony. They have 1 hour for religious mythology, 1 hr for historical, 1-2 for family oriented progressive shows or love story or thriller. On weekends they have comedy & reality shows. For few months they will have KBC that can beat any drama soap on prime time slot due to its audience which is from all sections. That's a good time table, getting best from all sections.

As for stable jobs, I don't want people to lose jobs but most of their talent is being wasted. Channels need not push shows beyond a limit that aren't working but they should atleast have a standard time say 6 months & not interefere there to see how that works. Finite format should be made too that allows more shows between seasons of a particular show. It's about rotating the resources to get the best yield.

Sadly, industry here is so used to being monotonous that even the thought of atleast once experiment at a time scares the shit out of them.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

As for stable jobs, I don't want people to lose jobs but most of their talent is being wasted. Channels need not push shows beyond a limit that aren't working but they should atleast have a standard time say 6 months & not interefere there to see how that works. Finite format should be made too that allows more shows between seasons of a particular show. It's about rotating the resources to get the best yield.

Sadly, industry here is so used to being monotonous that even the thought of atleast once experiment at a time scares the shit out of them.

@bold: Word. Especially people who work in a creative field...is it enough simply to get your paycheck? How do you motivate yourself to only decorate Naagins all day? You have to have a sense of humor about it then and not be delusional like Sonakshi seems to be🤷‍♀️


The system is badly broken but instead of acknowledging that it’s broken, ppl are actually repeating the lame excuses that TV folks make.

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