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Originally posted by: .chandni.

i really think that ekta shows most of her males as laachaar bebas most of the times

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

i was peetofying my maatha on hearing that😆..now does that make any sense..and why did bharmal had to surrender if he had jodha

Originally posted by: Donjas

Hi Mandy, once again I see that you are in an angry mood. I believe lament has some merits but it also misses the big picture.

I that in this serial, Akbar on occasions has been shown as helpless or foolish or too dependent on Jodha or his achievements given to others. That is true but on the whole this serial has been reasonably good towards Akbar, he has been shown to be brave, a good husband, a loving son, always keeps a promise, caring monarch, has a developed sense of justice etc. I could point out more but I don't remember at the moment.

To see how bad things can get for Akbar, watch that other serial on SONY for a few minutes. And believe me, over the past few months there has been a systematic campaign to smear Akbar's legacy.

So what is the big picture? It is that Jodha is a kind of bullet proof vest for Akbar. As long as Jodha's name is linked with Akbar he gets a kind of, Otherwise bigots would rip his legacy apart and invent imaginary scenarios to show how bad Akbar was. Don't believe me, again watch that other serial on SONY and you will understand. But even there Jodha is shown as noble woman.

That is the enigma that religious bigots face, Jodha is one of them, of the same religion and shares the same values. The picture of Jodha as a good, honorable and self sacrificing woman is so strongly imprinted in the mind of the people that it almost impossible to attack her. And since Jodha is so linked with Akbar, it becomes difficult to attack him also.

And then there is the romantic aura associated with the story that makes it even harder to attack Akbar. It is easy to selectively use historical records , even fabricate them to show Akbar as cruel but how do you fight against an idea, how do you fight against the imagery of romance that the movie and this serial created.

That is why the amount of good this serial has done for Akbar vastly exceeds the harm.

Originally posted by: devkidmd

Donjas, I agree with the majority of your post but how does Jodha share similar values of the bigots? Same religion yes, values? I don't think so. Bigots will be bigots no matter what religion. Isn't Akbar criticised by many muslim bigots as well?

I have not seen the other show on Sony but isn't Akbar still young (20-22) at this time in that show? What they are showing maybe an exaggaration but may not be totally false for the time period in Akbar's life.

Devki

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

i was peetofying my maatha on hearing that😆..now does that make any sense..and why did bharmal had to surrender if he had jodha

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

i will come out of it dear and thanks for the concern! i do not think akbar's begums ever came out in the open to fight like shown in the serial, at least i have not come across any such readings! his begums had power within the harem and he was the one giving the powers as per their capabilities!..noor was the one that fought for salim who was almost dying at that time and was captive of his own friend..and ekta took that incident from indu's taj trilogy, i myself have read it!

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

i was peetofying my maatha on hearing that😆..now does that make any sense..and why did bharmal had to surrender if he had jodha

Originally posted by: Donjas

Hi Mandy, once again I see that you are in an angry mood. I believe your lament has some merits but it also misses the big picture.

I agree that in this serial, Akbar on occasions has been shown as helpless or foolish or too dependent on Jodha or his achievements given to others. That is true but on the whole this serial has been reasonably good towards Akbar, he has been shown to be brave, a good husband, a loving son, always keeps a promise, caring monarch, has a developed sense of justice etc. I could point out more but I don't remember at the moment.

To see how bad things can get for Akbar, watch that other serial on SONY for a few minutes. And believe me, over the past few months there has been a systematic campaign to smear Akbar's legacy.

So what is the big picture? It is that Jodha is a kind of bullet proof vest for Akbar. As long as Jodha's name is linked with Akbar he gets a kind of security, Otherwise bigots would rip his legacy apart and invent imaginary scenarios to show how bad Akbar was. Don't believe me, again watch that other serial on SONY and you will understand. But even there Jodha is shown as noble woman.

That is the enigma that religious bigots face, Jodha is one of them, of the same religion and shares the same values. The picture of Jodha as a good, honorable and self sacrificing woman is so strongly imprinted in the mind of the people that it almost impossible to attack her. And since Jodha is so linked with Akbar, it becomes difficult to attack him also.

And then there is the romantic aura associated with the story that makes it even harder to attack Akbar. It is easy to selectively use historical records , even fabricate them to show Akbar as cruel but how do you fight against an idea, how do you fight against the imagery of romance that the movie and this serial created.

That is why the amount of good this serial has done for Akbar vastly exceeds the harm.

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Donjas

Does that mean to say that showing Akbar as a good person itself is such a concession that we should overlook his being reduced to a rubber stamp?

Aren't other kings portrayed as capable as well as good and noble?

I've not seen the other show on sony nor intend to see it. But i cannot accept that showing Akbar as an incapable buddhuram in one show is acceptable just because another show portrays him worse.

Akbar did not get beaten up or poisoned everytime and need his begums to win his wars. Akbar was not someone who could be screamed at by his bachpan ki dost or bhaashaned by his chahithi begum. There is absolutely no royal aura about this Akbar. If the other show is demeaning his character this show has demeaned his respect and abilities. Both are wrong. The difference is only on how much.

What is wrong is wrong. Whether it is to please the bigots or the political atmosphere.

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

at least she could have spared this one😕