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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Donjas

Does that mean to say that showing Akbar as a good person itself is such a concession that we should overlook his being reduced to a rubber stamp?

Aren't other kings portrayed as capable as well as good and noble?

I've not seen the other show on sony nor intend to see it. But i cannot accept that showing Akbar as an incapable buddhuram in one show is acceptable just because another show portrays him worse.

Akbar did not get beaten up or poisoned everytime and need his begums to win his wars. Akbar was not someone who could be screamed at by his bachpan ki dost or bhaashaned by his chahithi begum. There is absolutely no royal aura about this Akbar. If the other show is demeaning his character this show has demeaned his respect and abilities. Both are wrong. The difference is only on how much.

What is wrong is wrong. Whether it is to please the bigots or the political atmosphere.

and sandhya i will not see MP or ashoka made katputlees of their wives or their wives getting all the credits..now that is the difference in portrayal of Akbar and the rest! which is sad as truth and nothing but the truth should be shown and donjas i did rather watch documentaries on Akbar or read books on him which are much more dignified and shower tremendous respect on him and call him a miracle of his times!.. and google too is polluted by false info given the current political situation...sikh gurus and akbar's ancestors are tagged as looteras if you happen to google search them!

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

please answer my one simple question, why are the cvz so biased towards Akbar..is it political or is it the trp excuse? and if it is political then pl pm me the replies as this forum is not to discuss politics and if it is for trps then who cares about last week trps when the show is already ending?..do you all think that akbar's begums won wars for him and they went be pardah in front of all his staff? and when was akbar mazloom and lachaar? pl do not give me answers that this is a fiction and only watched for entertainment! at least i do not find entertainment in dragging a well known name and then making fun of him and exploiting his name to this extent???????

pl pm me the links where i can register a complain against this show!

Originally posted by: chitterati

Why - because he is the hero of an Indian television show. Being a hero on indian telly is about being a good son, a good husband, a good friend and being rooted and seeped in gharailu politics -- JA Akbar is all of that. To expect anything else, is expecting too much from 12th fail CVs who probably charge rs 200/page for their script writing "talent", how i wish Manish Pliwal and his likes read this😃.

Since indian telly viewers have been fed a staple diet of Saas Bahu in seedhe pallu sarees, Vrat, tulsi poojan, bhajan kirtan, the appetite for anything experimental and not draped in glittering gold and embroidery has really gone down. I mean telly maids who don't even have enough money to feed their children are draped in Nalli's south cotton sarees with matching bangles and lipstick...and then you expect pudhaaadhhh...what's wrong with you 😆

Nobody wants to watch politics, wars and masculine drama, there are enough news and english entertainment channels to address that. So please, stop judging something which is already certified to be unreal, and completely fictional!

cannot agree more😆

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

donjas , i can understand the undertone of what you are trying to say and i must say you have very smartly put it all in words😉..the only problem here is that jodha could have been shown all kind hearted..strong.. brave and all but not at the cost of bringing akbar down and showing him helpless..only if that one point was watched for but then as you said the majority wins and the majority rules!

Originally posted by: chitterati

@Donjas, @Mandy

Sure...blame it on the ...let me spell the subtext from Donjas for you - "Hindu right wing" government! and the religious bigots "non Muslims" who elected them, cause government does'nt have anything better to do than smear Ekta Kapoor's Akbar...coz we are such an intolerant society, never mind the double digit growth of minorities or the calm of religious "extremists" of the "hindu fanatic" government despite the fact that 15000 showed up to pay "respects" to a bomb blast convicted "Martyr".

Mandy - aren't you from Canada - have you ever seen the show "Homeland" - lets see if you name call the mighty, liberal, open minded, tolerant, certifiably intelligent US government and the most kind hearted and intelligent citizens of US to smear the name of a particular religion or a country (oops but then you will also probably have to talk about the treatment meted out to african americans who not so long ago called niggers, also how the uber accommodating Americans drove and massacred indians out their homes and treated them as second class citizens) . Also, why don't you ask your friend from Pakistan, how the Hindus and Sikhs have been portrayed in their show Dastaan and other shows...and why in Pakistan Amarkot where your revered Akbar was born has been renamed to "Umarkot"

It is very easy to pass judgement on a Indian society under the pretext of being "secular", without taking into account what a vast diversity this country has. It is nothing short of a miracle that despite having such an mix of cultures and religions it has managed to even exist, and rise. So love Akbar as much as you want to or hate Ekta Kapoor with as much ferocity, but please for the sake of fairness(whic you so admire in Akbar) do not generalize and insult a nation and its people

C'mon don't misread my viewpoint. In my opinion there is no country in the world, other than India, where a king from a minority community has been given so much respect. Can we imagine, the Europeans giving such respect to a Muslim king or the Arabs or Turks giving this kind of respect for a Christian king.

India is unique in this respect, much to be proud about.

My point about Jodha was that the goodness of Jodha that is imprinted in the Indian mind rubs off on all linked with her. That goodness is easier to understand and appreciate because for most Indians she is one of us. Of course being of a similar religion to majority of Indians helps in empathizing with Jodha, but that is just one part of it, it is the way Jodha is portrayed from Mughal e Azam to Jodha Akbar, a brave, good, self sacrificing woman.

I go with Chitterati here Mandy

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

I go with Chitterati here Mandy

As a society and country we are more tolerant than any other.

Political or religious reasons don't affect a mere serial. It is more of the heroine mahaanta formula of our sbs tele shows.

My only complaint is that Akbar could have been spared. This could have been any Raja Rani story.

exactly sandhya! at least akbar could have been spared and chitterati the tracks were controlled by zee owners more than ekta and i am thinking it could be the political thing of showing akbar this way..or zee trying to please the viewers to get trp..and there are people like sandhya fighting for him then how can i generalize it!

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Donjas</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Does that mean to say that showing Akbar as a good person itself is such a concession that we should overlook his being reduced to a rubber stamp?</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Aren't other kings portrayed as capable as well as good and noble?</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I've not seen the other show on sony nor intend to see it. But i cannot accept that showing Akbar as an incapable buddhuram in one show is acceptable just because another show portrays him worse.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Akbar did not get beaten up or poisoned everytime and need his begums to win his wars. Akbar was not someone who could be screamed at by his bachpan ki dost or bhaashaned by his chahithi begum. There is absolutely no royal aura about this Akbar. If the other show is demeaning his character this show has demeaned his respect and abilities. Both are wrong. The difference is only on how much.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">What is wrong is wrong. Whether it is to please the bigots or the political atmosphere.</font>

Well said my dear Sandhya. 👏

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

I go with Chitterati here Mandy

As a society and country we are more tolerant than any other.

Political or religious reasons don't affect a mere serial. It is more of the heroine mahaanta formula of our sbs tele shows.

My only complaint is that Akbar could have been spared. This could have been any Raja Rani story.