Ektanama! Akbar bana abla purush.. including prem's view- DT Nt Pg 25 - Page 23

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

But what about the impression it makes on the foreign viewers. They will think that Akbar was a smart soldier king who mellowed down into a marshmallow in love and it was MUZ who established the Mughal dynasty in India.

How much do movies and tv series impress us on foreign history! Won't it be the same vice versa?

The opening was bang on which will pull in audience. They will end up thinking that Akbar did nothing worthwhile and his rule was sustained only because of his wife else he was a mere puppy abla purush, purush if you can still call him that.

Originally posted by: munnirony

Prob is tht real point will never be understood nd the debate will continue. let me clear this out. Issue is not jodha's strongness nd her achievements. Main issue is akbar's degradation in the process of doing tht. Why? Whts the need? If we r dealing with real characters shouldn't be the dignity of the characters maintained? Yes jodha definitely had a positive influence on jalal but tht doesn't mean jalal did everything bcoz of her. Yes as its said its jodha akbar nd thts exactly our point. Where is akbar? If its only about jodha then the title should have been tht. Wht akbar's name was used? Women empowerment cant come at the cost of a weak male. If jodha was important in jalal's life its bcoz of herself not bcoz jalal was weak. But here everything comes at the cost of others. Jalal cant do anything jodha does everything. why boss? Can't there be a balance? Why other wives of akbar has to be degraded to justify a love story? Whether ruqu was good or bad thts a different story but sorry she wasn't so helpless tht she can't even do an interior decoration. Salima was not a "sister" to jalal. They were very much into relationship. Neither she had so much time to look after jodha's masala business. she had her responsibilies as well. infact akbar was smart enough to give responsibilities to all his wives to keep them busy. If we use our logic we can realise whts actually right whts actually wrong. Nd yes I know my history very well bcoz im a daughter of a history prof nd who is much more experienced nd learned.

Originally posted by: SHADESOFNATURE

completely agree with you they will forget this show as the makers itself ruined their charm

N remember the film Jodha Akbar ...always ...

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

No...its not a foolish question...its the most logical question, imo...n I had answered it even before the dreaded leap happened...

Acc to me, the leap happened because the female lead of the show was uncomfortable with romantic scenes...n with romantic scenes, I mean mere hugs, pecks, deeply in love looks, etc(..One can Google n check these facts right from the horse's mouth...😆)

there was no way the cvs could write meaningful scenes for them..for a couple deeply in love in an epic love story, it was only lep, lap, lori...again n again n again ...hence supporting characters like Ruqu & Atifa were given good scenes with Jalal...

The cvs attempted to create a new love story...as EK's original aim was to focus on the romance part anyways...historical facts were never her priority...

...but obviously, who would care for any other actor if one turned RT into a supporting actor???...its this very reason that made films like Anjaam, Kabhi haan kabhi naa flop big time...where the heroine chooses a sidey actor over SRK 😆

Anyways...I for one had stopped watching long back...but now that it's ending, it's still nostalgia time because of the earlier fantabulous episodes...😃

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

That was perhaps a last ditch attempt to retrieve the show. The laboni track was perhaps the last opportunity for exhibition of talents which she didn't want to miss. The rest were all sort of repetitions afterall. The consequences of the fusses must have been realised by then.

How else do you explain such 2 feet romance in heydays and raindances after you have become in laws.

Why should Ekta cut the goose that lays golden eggs? Why would she allow lep lap and loris?

I agree with Khushi's statement that it is upto the actors decision to choose roles in his comfort zone. But it also follows that you should NOT sign up for something you are not comfortable with. It is not that she is entirely uncomfortable doing romantic scenes. Dec 16 was the example. It was sizzling without being too close.

But it is the kind of thing that gets into your head when you taste success for the first time and it gets into your head and you feel that you are indispensable for the show. We saw Bhagyashree do that post MPK. 'I'll act only with my husband'. 'Family is everything.' and all the high sounding stuff. This magniloquent attitude comes down only when failures crop in. When the trps started dropping and the show was slotted to be shut down, then the comfort zone began to expand.

Well, the loftiness could have come from any one of the leads. But seeing how comfortable RT was with Ruqaiya and Atifa, we are forced to draw only one conclusion.

Originally posted by: jayaks02

From when is one forced to toe a line in public forums ?

I do not like someone's acting , I DO NOT LIKE IT. This is my view.

I am not saying everyone has to agree with me. But no one needs to tell me NOT to voice my views as long as it is not abusive.

At this rate, there will no film critics if every single film is to be praised.

Sara is quite right in expressing her POV. FOr each one earth shattering acting is something else.

Originally posted by: chembi

Hm mandy remember ekta's akbar already faked his death to get attraction from his queen .What we could expect from this du*b cvs and ekta. They degraded akbar in every track what's new thank god this show is ging to end

Originally posted by: Coolpree

Alok Nath??? Ha ha ha ! I can't shake that vision out of my mind now 🤣

Sandhya we have a DT note on the thread so I have to be circumspect about what I say.

I am not misunderstanding your complaints about Alok Nath romance( I am still chuckling). I am merely stating that it was not a cause for the downfall of the show. The person you mentioned is hugely popular among the wide TV audience and a majority love this Jodi together. She is not the reason people fled. Ekta's plan of weaving a new love story into the story of JA misfired badly. That and the unending negativity after the death of the twins have caused the downfall of the show.

Originally posted by: Donjas

Sandhy I agree totally, if the leap was because of Paridhi's reluctance to do romantic scenes then the fault is hers and the subsequent demise of the serial.

There are two scenarios here-

Scenario 1- Paridhi hated doing cozy romantic scenes, Ekta and team had no choice but to go for leap

Scenario 2- Paridhi was ready to do romantic scenes and her post leap scenes prove that. In this scenario the reason for the leap was either incompetence or political interference(almost everyone knew that the leap would cause the failure of the show, sooner or later)

What to believe? Should I believe in Ekta and team, the same team that gave us horrible ideas like Kyber or Atifa or Akbar being tortured by sister.

If any evidence exists for scenario 1, then fine, but my gut instincts tell me that it is scenario 2. Ekta either made her serial commit suicide because of political pressure or she was too stupid to realize that Mughal e Azam will never work in a serial named Jodha Akbar.

That she was never serious about Mughal e Azam is evident from her choice of Salim, after such care taken for selection of Akbar and Jodha.