JA Oct 13|Hussein Under the Damocles' Sword, Updt Abhay P12, Oct14 P11 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Radhika ,

What an amazing post .👏

I have responded below to your questions.

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My view:

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.

He had ordered an inquiry but don't know why the findings are not declared yet.Maybe they will be revealed soon.

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?

He had told Jodha the other day that he has stepped up security but can't see anything as such.

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?

May be the meeting with MP and his father is being planned,

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?

Yes.And I couldn't see any injury so serious for Jo to come running away leaving Hussein alone,All I could see that he was "high"😉

5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.

Yup .Zeenat seems to have masters in child rearing.😕But still Jo could have called Hakima here.There is something called as mother's instinct which turns out to be true most of the time.You know it ,right? 😛

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.

No he did tell her twice to go back to the kid but she wanted to stay.But I feel honestly that he is not suspecting Zeenat.

7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?

He saw her behaving odd that day in Hamam while he came to take Hussein .That should arise suspicion in the mind of a smart man like him.

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?

No one yet I think.If anyone discovers than it will be zeenat only,Because till now ,the villains have always been smart with their eyes wide open.

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?

See when Jo was singing lullaby and there was VO that Jo felt good in the company of Hussein .This seems that some days had passed .

Meanwhile, Zeenat lands in trouble. The hakima briefly suspected her today. Zeenat had used the hakima's ark but managed to escape by a whisker. Sooner or later, the hakima may rethink about the issue and inform someone of her suspicions.

Yup this Hakima is good in that .Remember she was the one who became suspicious of Ruku during FP .So I put my 5 rs on her.

Salima saw that the finger was burnt. Will Salima aid the TE in his investigations or was that scene just a red herring?

Salima has helped Jalal during FP of Jo and was a support to him during Suja track.She is helpful to Jalal in anything related Jo where he can't take help of anybody.Like during FP somehow he kept Ruku and Maham away and confided in Salima and in Suja track you know what both the ladies did.Since now Maham is out and Ruku is "out" of her senses ,Salima is gonna play some role.And again ,if by gods grace, Ruku's exposure happens then Ruku might be pushed behind and Salima according to history will rise as the next fav queen.For that she has to do something.

All in all, today was a suspenseful episode with the sword of Damocles' literally and figuratively hanging over little Hussein in a cat and mouse game. Tomorrow the sword will fall and cause the tragic death of Hussein.

I felt bad for this kid.But it was good that least he could spend some time with his mom.

I was able to watch the episodes till today. But one look at the wailing Jodha and the shocked Ruq in today's precap sent shivers down my spine and I'm not sure I will be able to watch tomorrow's episode. 😕

Baap re then there is whole torture of Ruku tamasha.And Jalal consoling her in the same way ,he did to Jo.

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Please share your thoughts about the track, tonight's episode and what may happen tomorrow. 😊

I put my 5rs on Hakima for helping in solving the mystery

3 rs on zeenat ,where she might do something stupid and get caught.

1.50 rs on Salima

1.25 rs on Jalal himself for finding out everything.

My dear friend you made my day with this saying! Am still laughing. 😆😆😆
Am still reading but couldn't help it!!!😆

All I could see that he was "high"😉

CV team have a funny way of showing their twist.😕

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

@bold: 😆 Exactly - I chose to go with suspense to keep up spirits that are sagging as the cheese holes are increasing ...

Sandhya, you are supposed to answer my Qs, not ask more of yours...😛 ..Let's hope someone answers ours together...

Though I can give you one answer ... Jalal won't risk Hussein's life. But then why didn't he increase security for Hussein? The child was all over the palace with Jodha, even out in the open. He was even left in the care of servants and Zeenat. That means Jalal DOES NOT yet suspect Zeenat.

Originally posted by: history_geek

I have updated my Post on page - 1 . Link..> > 114534522


Also, DO CHECK my Take on the Latest Promo.

This is NOT a temporary change in Jalal, according to me...!!.

This was expected and i have posted a detailed post about the Promo at the New place i post NOW. 😉

Would Like to know your Views on it.. 😊

Originally posted by: history_geek

I have updated my Post on page - 1 . Link..> > 114534522


Also, DO CHECK my Take on the Latest Promo.

This is NOT a temporary change in Jalal, according to me...!!.

This was expected and i have posted a detailed post about the Promo at the New place i post NOW. 😉

Would Like to know your Views on it.. 😊

Abhay
Thanks for that post. It had brought in a whole new perspective to this situation.

Originally posted by: history_geek

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Nice Writeup Radhika..
The Episode had many riddles...

I would like to answer your questions. They Seem interesting...

I, for one, do NOT want ANY TE right now. The stakes in this case are very HIGH, i do not want CV's to use this tactic time and again, to catch any offender.

Jalal should NOT be shown as so much resourceless that he has to resort to such tactics always. This time it is HUSSAIN's life at stake. !!!! Will Jalal risk Hussain to catch Zeenat.?. I do NOT want it this way.

I do not think that there is any TE, and where are all the all the spies of the Mughal Harem, that there is a need for any TE.?. 😕

Even if they show some TE like stuff, then i won't be happy with it.
I still remember the "P A T H E T I C" explanations and flashbacks for Atifa Track, and NO explanations were given for some of the occurrences. Link of that Post 😳

I do not believe the Zee Man but he told that we should wait for 2-3 days, that means, maximum by Wednesday something should happen. Link of the Call.

Coming to your Questions...

Before, i answer these questions, i want to say that the NEW Promo has thrown open my Brains and i can think of so many possibilities, which i have posted somewhere else, as i do not want this beautiful thread to get penalized for History. Do check my Post there.

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?
I do not think so, as Jalal shouldn't put Hussain's life at risk.. I had mentioned possible involvement on Sharif-ud-din here, who might be hatching a plot against Jalal, but that seems a distant possibility..!!

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.

If there is any TE, then we will be shown some flashbacks and some details may be given. Remember, Qasim said to Zeenat that, Jalal ordered for an inquiry into the death of Hasan..

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?

Quite Strange. And this makes me think how come, we are going to get a TE, but you never know the CV's. They are capable of hatching a PLAN out of NO-where to show any shocking stuff and High-Level Planning , full of loop-holes, like the Atifa Track..😉

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?

Radhika, i do not know anything about this, that why are they showing this Yamuna going stuff, and Jalal getting hurt on the forehead...!!!!
But this made me remember a REAL incident, of roughly the same timeline as the twins birth, and i have posted about this incident in short along with my thoughts on the Promo. Plz do check it out..!!! 😊

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?

As i said above, i do not know about this, but a similar incident happened really, around the same time as twins. Do check my post "there".😉

5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.

I think this was normal, she was worried about Jalal. She thought about Hussain also but left to see Jalal, as Moti and Zakira were also with Hussain.

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.

Logically thinking and considering that Jalal is Shahenshah-e-Hind, i do NOT want him to be shown so naive as to put the life of Hussain at risk, in order to catch/trap Zeenat. 😕 If he got that "pseudo-finger" then also, they should think that the culprit can HAVE ANY number of such "pseudo-fingers" or other means of attacking the child. What say.?. 😉 Hence, leaving the kid with the suspect would be a suicidal move.

7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?

Jalal DOES NOT(and should not) suspect(S) Zeenat at the moment, i feel so. But, Agar CV's show us some FB's then i am helpless here.🤢 Though, i think NO suspicion right now..
And, i want the Creatives NOT to show that "NON-sense theory" like Atifa Track. 😳
There is NO rule that Jalal has to FIRST Search the "SABUT" and then arrest the person.🥱
For God's sake, he is a powerful MAN, and has enough methods which Kings used to employ to get the truth extracted from the suspect.
The CV's should stop the drama.😕 {<<If they are planning to show this and prove the TE case here. }

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?
No Idea. Because, In this Show, >>
a. The Promos are Dreams, 😕
b. The Precaps are Misleading, 😉
c. And the MOST IMPORTANT Plans to catch the assassins are shown in "Half-Baked Flashbacks" devoid of complete explanations.😆
I am in NO MOOD to accept the TE in this track, if the Creatives are trying to show ONE here, hence i am writing like this today.. I still, can NOT forget that blunderous Atifa Track for showing TE. 😕

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?

I was thinking about the "thinking" of the CV's.😆 They show us the MOST minor sadistic details BUT not some good refreshing scenes. Tell me, what was the need to show the Chicken Pox "type" disease of Ruqayya Begum, more so when it got cured quite early.?.🤓



My thoughts on the Promo::

The CV's have brought back the OLD Jalal for a reason. And we have historical backing for this..😊 I do not know if this is a short lived Avatar of Akbar, but in my opinion it should be a LONG driven role.

I have been writing at so many places that i do NOT want ONLY a SAINTLY Emperor, i ALSO want the "Strong/Authoritative/Ruthless" Emperor BACK, to find the RIGHT Balance.!!!!. Though, I can write N number of odes to justify that kingdoms can be won by winning hearts of people ONLY..

BUT in reality that is NOT the case. Ekta has shown enough of Saintly Qualities of Jalal. And, i wanted to see something close to REALity. Those who have read it, know it better.
The Promo Seems to be a glimpse of the same.

Check the new place, i have made a separate LONG Post on Promo, and given my thoughts. The writeup on Promo is quite interesting, as i have written it with complete freedom.😉


My thoughts on the Spoiler::

I will NEVER believe that Jalal can EVER get angry with Jodha now and think that, she could, in any way, be responsible for the Twins demise. On the other hand, i am worried about Ruqayya, as she may get the treatment from Jalal, in case she accuses Jodha.😉

Remember that, we are still to see HOW the CV's Plan to put Ruqs in her place. Many things are still under wraps and i am getting ready to see COUNT-less Flashbacks for explanations.😆

I hope the UN-predicatable CV's of Jodha Akbar do not betray me. 😳

Originally posted by: ..PT..

Good post.

I don't think ja suspects zeenat. If he did, he wouldn't risk that woman anywhere near baby. The risk is too big to play wait n watch game.

Valid question 5. Even I found it curious that Jo accepts zeenats assurance that Hussein is fine. After losing one kid, I would expect her to overreact like Ruks n holler for the hakima for everything.

I have a question. Is zeenats husband quasim mirza n Ruks have the same father?

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

he hasn't suspected any foul play so far. Hence such lax security.

then was the tafteeshing that qasim spoke about limited only to the fire. But Qasim specifically said "hassan apna maut nahin mara"

Then why was Hussein not given extra protection? Why while away time buying khanjar and outings with ms and tm ... (couldn't they show us a bit of that to us poor viewers who are suffocated with the harem😭)

Finally they will give us the most unbelievable flashback in the name of suspense. the CVs deserve what delilish.smile has planned for them.

Radhika There r so many doubts n confusions abt this track... The promo first scared me but I want heartless jalal who has guts to punish his Bachpan dost his brothers... He shud b normal with jo Salima hb... I think this whole hussain death is to show that jo is careless m neglected hussain(she dint)bcz if hussain was killed wen he is with ruk then blame wil not go on jo... So all these is to make jo to b blamed... But I'm happy that hussain got to spend his last few days with mom dad not in that vamp hands...
Jo wil b blamed by ruk
1) for spending night with jalal n neglecting hussain
2) I think hussain has fever but zeenat lied n aftr hakima says that hussain had fever last night ruk wil ask jo n jo accepts n ruk wil shout on her that y she dimt call hakima night itslef
3) ruk wil blame that hussain was helathy with her but with jo he became unhealthy as she don't take care of him n she wil also blame jalal here that just lik hassan now jo dimt take care her aulad shehzada hussain n he was busy spending night with jo that he forgot abt his own son...

Aftr all these screeching shouting crying by ruk jo wil go totally numb that she blamed her n she was responsible for kids death... Jalal initially may side with ruk n console her leaving jo... He wil think how they spent night n hussain was killed n how their love killed hussain... Then in DEK promo scene comes n he shouts with anger frustration that he no more trusts God n he no more believes love(jo shocking face was shiwn )this blaming will continue until zeenat n qasim r caught...then they wil b given death punishment...

In all these wer is ruk exposure? I guess there wil not b... But zee said that she did smethng alredy... Except swapping twins no other idea is cmg on my mind.. Previosuly hussain used to puke but now he is not... I think she swapped babies aftr dussehra... Aftr that hassan died bcz of excessive puking n he also was shown cried before the night of his death which hussain does normally... I think it's hussain died n hassan died yday... But how did kid die yday? Zeenat don't get ungli I think she strangled him but is it possible wen moti Zakira r present? Or else she fooled moti Zakira n sent them out?

In all these Jallu shudnt blame jo n alredy she was devastated with death news n she needs to b consoled..and Asusual farman is of no use as jalal dint use it at all..

1)TE wil b shown I guess that's how zeenat n qasim wil b caught.
2)if jalal arranges security before hussain death then it wil b one of the wonders of cvs.in atifa track alos same thing happend wen we all r expecting security for jo n kids
3)I guess he went along with Tod n Maan may b political matters. If u ask me he went there just to get wound on head so that jo leaves hussain with zeenat n goes to jalal
4)yes no one knows how he got head injury... And his face was glowing yday that there was no single mark on his head to know that he got wounded.. Dnt know how moti saw with her scanned eyes that jalal head got injured. May b internal injury 🤔
5)I think hussain has fever but zeenat lied n hakima today wil tel that he died bcz of severe fever last night giving one more reason to ruk to blast jo.
6)no jalal is not suspecting zeenat now... He Wudnt do TE plan at cost of hussain death... He n jo believes zeenat as she was sent by grt rukayya begun
7)I stil cudnt know how zeenat killed hussain.. Sme arc was used I guess as she lost ungli or she strangled him 😭
8)pseudo finger wil b found by Salima at last moment.
9)normally for any perisn affected with chicken pox takes twenty days to cure but here cvs lover ruk takes one night to get over it 😎