JA Oct 13|Hussein Under the Damocles' Sword, Updt Abhay P12, Oct14 P11 - Page 5

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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Radhika ,

What an amazing post .👏

Thanks, Rashmi 😊

I have responded below to your questions.

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My view:

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.
He had ordered an inquiry but don't know why the findings are not declared yet.Maybe they will be revealed soon.

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?
He had told Jodha the other day that he has stepped up security but can't see anything as such.

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?
May be the meeting with MP and his father is being planned,

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?
Yes.And I couldn't see any injury so serious for Jo to come running away leaving Hussein alone,All I could see that he was "high"😉

I also felt like that initially when he was nursing that goblet in his hand. And pressing it to his forehead for relief. 😆


5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.
Yup .Zeenat seems to have masters in child rearing.😕But still Jo could have called Hakima here.There is something called as mother's instinct which turns out to be true most of the time.You know it ,right? 😛

You answered your Q. Zeenat is the expert here. 😆

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.
No he did tell her twice to go back to the kid but she wanted to stay.But I feel honestly that he is not suspecting Zeenat.

I said he didn't "force" or "insist" Jodha to go back. Yeah I also feel he doesn't suspect Zeenat yet. 😊

7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?
He saw her behaving odd that day in Hamam while he came to take Hussein .That should arise suspicion in the mind of a smart man like him.

Initially itself, he had suspected Zeenat and been found wrong. So now he will not readily suspect Zeenat.

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?
No one yet I think.If anyone discovers than it will be zeenat only,Because till now ,the villains have always been smart with their eyes wide open.

LOL

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?
See when Jo was singing lullaby and there was VO that Jo felt good in the company of Hussein .This seems that some days had passed .

Meanwhile, Zeenat lands in trouble. The hakima briefly suspected her today. Zeenat had used the hakima's ark but managed to escape by a whisker. Sooner or later, the hakima may rethink about the issue and inform someone of her suspicions.
Yup this Hakima is good in that .Remember she was the one who became suspicious of Ruku during FP .So I put my 5 rs on her.

Salima saw that the finger was burnt. Will Salima aid the TE in his investigations or was that scene just a red herring?

Salima has helped Jalal during FP of Jo and was a support to him during Suja track.She is helpful to Jalal in anything related Jo where he can't take help of anybody.Like during FP somehow he kept Ruku and Maham away and confided in Salima and in Suja track you know what both the ladies did.Since now Maham is out and Ruku is "out" of her senses ,Salima is gonna play some role.And again ,if by gods grace, Ruku's exposure happens then Ruku might be pushed behind and Salima according to history will rise as the next fav queen.For that she has to do something.

Possible 😊

All in all, today was a suspenseful episode with the sword of Damocles' literally and figuratively hanging over little Hussein in a cat and mouse game. Tomorrow the sword will fall and cause the tragic death of Hussein.
I felt bad for this kid.But it was good that least he could spend some time with his mom.

I was able to watch the episodes till today. But one look at the wailing Jodha and the shocked Ruq in today's precap sent shivers down my spine and I'm not sure I will be able to watch tomorrow's episode. 😕

Baap re then there is whole torture of Ruku tamasha.And Jalal consoling her in the same way ,he did to Jo.

Get ready soon to face the "unpleasant".

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Please share your thoughts about the track, tonight's episode and what may happen tomorrow. 😊
I put my 5rs on Hakima for helping in solving the mystery
3 rs on zeenat ,where she might do something stupid and get caught.
1.50 rs on Salima
1.25 rs on Jalal himself for finding out everything.

only in Rs. ? Not in dollars?😆


Rashmi,

Thanks for such a witty post. Had great fun reading it. 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ..PT..

Good post.

I don't think ja suspects zeenat. If he did, he wouldn't risk that woman anywhere near baby. The risk is too big to play wait n watch game.
Valid question 5. Even I found it curious that Jo accepts zeenats assurance that Hussein is fine. After losing one kid, I would expect her to overreact like Ruks n holler for the hakima for everything.
I have a question. Is zeenats husband quasim mirza n Ruks have the same father?


Hi,

This is what is known as inconsistency. A woman who gets premonitions about her son's life being in danger does nothing to keep him safe. A man who suspects foul play in his son's death does nothing to protect the second son. But a woman who is supposed to be auda-obsessed is shown to care for and protect the child much better.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
I don't believe in TE..They trust Zeenat..Zeenat is Hussein's daima and Ruk trust her explicitly..I don't think Jalal will blame Jodha...We have to see how the episode plays out today..Whether they show Hussein died in his sleep, or Zeenat had to do something...
I still don't believe the zee man ..This track has shown Ruk best at her worst behaviour but hasn't shown any inclination about her downfall..Wait and watch..There are glaring loopholes in this track and I am not sure if the cv's are equipped enough to close this track well after draggin it so much..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Radhika There r so many doubts n confusions abt this track...

Bhavna,

Welcome to the Club of Confused Viewers :) This is why I tried to list the Qs that were puzzling me in the hope that someone may answer them well enough.

The promo first scared me but I want heartless jalal who has guts to punish his Bachpan dost his brothers... He shud b normal with jo Salima hb... I think this whole hussain death is to show that jo is careless m neglected hussain(she dint)bcz if hussain was killed wen he is with ruk then blame wil not go on jo... So all these is to make jo to b blamed... But I'm happy that hussain got to spend his last few days with mom dad not in that vamp hands...
Jo wil b blamed by ruk
1) for spending night with jalal n neglecting hussain
2) I think hussain has fever but zeenat lied n aftr hakima says that hussain had fever last night ruk wil ask jo n jo accepts n ruk wil shout on her that y she dimt call hakima night itslef
3) ruk wil blame that hussain was helathy with her but with jo he became unhealthy as she don't take care of him n she wil also blame jalal here that just lik hassan now jo dimt take care her aulad shehzada hussain n he was busy spending night with jo that he forgot abt his own son...

Aftr all these screeching shouting crying by ruk jo wil go totally numb that she blamed her n she was responsible for kids death... Jalal initially may side with ruk n console her leaving jo... He wil think how they spent night n hussain was killed n how their love killed hussain... Then in DEK promo scene comes n he shouts with anger frustration that he no more trusts God n he no more believes love(jo shocking face was shiwn )this blaming will continue until zeenat n qasim r caught...then they wil b given death punishment...

In all these wer is ruk exposure? I guess there wil not b... But zee said that she did smethng alredy... Except swapping twins no other idea is cmg on my mind.. Previosuly hussain used to puke but now he is not... I think she swapped babies aftr dussehra... Aftr that hassan died bcz of excessive puking n he also was shown cried before the night of his death which hussain does normally... I think it's hussain died n hassan died yday... But how did kid die yday? Zeenat don't get ungli I think she strangled him but is it possible wen moti Zakira r present? Or else she fooled moti Zakira n sent them out?

In all these Jallu shudnt blame jo n alredy she was devastated with death news n she needs to b consoled..and Asusual farman is of no use as jalal dint use it at all..

1)TE wil b shown I guess that's how zeenat n qasim wil b caught.
2)if jalal arranges security before hussain death then it wil b one of the wonders of cvs.in atifa track alos same thing happend wen we all r expecting security for jo n kids
3)I guess he went along with Tod n Maan may b political matters. If u ask me he went there just to get wound on head so that jo leaves hussain with zeenat n goes to jalal

@bold: 😆

4)yes no one knows how he got head injury... And his face was glowing yday that there was no single mark on his head to know that he got wounded.. Dnt know how moti saw with her scanned eyes that jalal head got injured. May b internal injury 🤔

He had a small injury near the hairline on left side. Nothing major for a warrior like Jalal. 😊

5)I think hussain has fever but zeenat lied n hakima today wil tel that he died bcz of severe fever last night giving one more reason to ruk to blast jo.
6)no jalal is not suspecting zeenat now... He Wudnt do TE plan at cost of hussain death... He n jo believes zeenat as she was sent by grt rukayya begun

@bold: Agree 👏

7)I stil cudnt know how zeenat killed hussain.. Sme arc was used I guess as she lost ungli or she strangled him 😭

It can't be strangling because that will automatically show that Hussein was killed.

8)pseudo finger wil b found by Salima at last moment.
9)normally for any perisn affected with chicken pox takes twenty days to cure but here cvs lover ruk takes one night to get over it 😎


Bhavna,

Pls don't let the track get you down. The CVs are deliberately creating confusion so that they can end the track any way they like. Calm down and keep watching 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45
Sorry for my infrequent visits but I am fed up with the dose of tragedy that we are being fed for the past 5 weeks. Does the TRP audience like to see scenes of babies being killed and mothers wailing. I don't think so? Does the TRP audience like this deluge of negativity? Again I don't think so, the ratings have seen better times.

Ekta has never cared that much for history in the past, then why this devotion now. I just want this crappy negative track to end and I want to see Ruqaiya only a side character and not as a main character.

I won't spoil my mood by watching the next few episodes. The after death scene will only be a repeat of the stellar performance I have already seen. No point in a repeat.

By the way, you folks remember the date. Today is the birthday of Akbar 14 October, 1542.
Edited by Donjas - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Sorry for my infrequent visits but I am fed up with the dose of tragedy that we are being fed for the past 5 weeks. Does the TRP audience like to see scenes of babies being killed and mothers wailing. I don't think so? Does the TRP audience like this deluge of negativity? Again I don't think so, the ratings have seen better times.


Ekta has never cared that much for history in the past, then why this devotion now. I just want this crappy negative track to end and I want to see Ruqaiya only a side character and not as a main character.

I won't spoil my mood by watching the next few episodes. The after death scene will only be a repeat of the stellar performance I have already seen. No point in a repeat.

By the way, you folks remember the date. Today is the birthday of Akbar 14 October, 1542.



cant agree more Donjas. CVS are really testing our patience and I have none left. I called Zee today and told the same..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Sorry for my infrequent visits but I am fed up with the dose of tragedy that we are being fed for the past 5 weeks. Does the TRP audience like to see scenes of babies being killed and mothers wailing. I don't think so? Does the TRP audience like this deluge of negativity? Again I don't think so, the ratings have seen better times.


Ekta has never cared that much for history in the past, then why this devotion now. I just want this crappy negative track to end and I want to see Ruqaiya only a side character and not as a main character.

I won't spoil my mood by watching the next few episodes. The after death scene will only be a repeat of the stellar performance I have already seen. No point in a repeat.

By the way, you folks remember the date. Today is the birthday of Akbar 14 October, 1542.


Today is the birthday of Akbar, 14 october 1542, Thanks for recaling us, Such a Great personalityBD,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️,






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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO


Radhika, I do not think Jalal has any doubt on Zeenat and neither has Jodha. Otherwise Jodha would not have left Hussain with Zeenat
Jodha thinks Ruk trusts Zeenat blindly so she trusted her and also Moti and Zakira were there

Jalal would not have risked Hussain's life by letting Zeenat hang around Jodha and Hussain


Agree 😊

It is possible either of 2 things might have happened

Zeenat actually poisoned Hussain and she had said it will take 5 days for the poison to show its effects. We all wondered what had happened to Hassan so fast, he passed away next day itself.
Also both Hassan and Hussain did not get same symptoms Hassan got vomiting and Hussain fever - if he actually had fever that is.

In twins, one may be stronger than the other. If Hasan was the weaker one, he may have died quickly.

OR

When Jalal walked in on Zeenat with her finger near Hussain's mouth when he took Hussain to meet Jodha - as he Jalal called out Zeenat got startled and we might show in fb that time Hussain actually sucked her finger without her being aware of it. So that might explain Hussain passing away after some days. They might show this in fb

It is also possible that the pseudo finger got caught in the baby blanket and smeared poison on it. Hussein may have licked that and got poisoned. The whole purpose in the pseudo finger getting misplaced then may have been simply to poison Hussein accidentally.

Ruk had said when she inquired about Hassan to Hoshiyaat "hum kabhi nahi chahenge ki bachhe ke kuch ho" - now why would Ruk say that? Was it just a casual sentence or did Ruk give Jodha some arc that actually harmed Hassan instead?

Remember after Hassan passed away Jodha had got so weak she told Jalal she cannot walk more and he made her sit down. What if Jodha was given some arc which harmed Hassan and they arc in Jodha's system made her so weak - which everybody attributed to her mental state?

I cannot believe that Ruq would harm the kids. 😕

Maybe Hassan was not harmed by Zeenat she just thought so

What if Hussain did not have fever? Jodha has been worrying about Hussain all the time. What if after Jodha went to meet Jalal - Moti and Zakira nodded off and Zeenat just held her palm on Hussain's face not letting him breathe and then left?

So many possibilities. Why would Jalal doubt Jodha? He has seen her herself taking care of both babies and he learnt from her. Both the babies were safe with Jodha and Jalal. Only when they were out of their presence both times something happened to them

Possibilities are endless. Thanks for listing so many! 😊 I also don't think there will be any MU between the two.


Maddy

Thanks for posting ! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Radhika I don't think Jalaal got ony clue against Zeenat or he suspects her, if so he wouldn't risk the baby life to punsih the real culprit..

I think the baby died as the poision has been given before when Zeenat feeding to the kid... Zeenat have killed the baby without poison by closing the breathing while feeding milk to the baby...


Abhi,

It is possible...Many here feel that Hussein was strangled to death or smothered. Smothering is a possibility but not strangling, as the latter will leave marks, directly indicating that someone killed Hussein. .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra



If TE, Jalal is investigating, Hassan death, But he no doubts, On Zeenat, But Acc to Tata sky, Zeenath +Quasim name is coming for punishment, Ruk name is not coming. But Z man is saying, Ruk exposed, Someone wrote She called Z man said, ruk will not expose,

If Ruk involved in Hassan death, then sure Punishment is Harsh, But Ruk is distanced Some years, & live in Akbar Life.So Ruk will use second another Wish, if she involved.

This thing, not cleared Me, when jodha went Jalal Hozara, Why hussain is not with Her.?After dying one child, Why Cv shows these type of unconciouness, , by Jodha,
Is this is indication Ruk shouating again.
Or Hussain have fever, Zeenat said No fever, So jodha this time no doubt on zeenat.
i think, jodha will be aggain pregnant Now, Girl child will not survive, if this is the reason, Akbar shifted Fathpur sikiri.Is Some war on the floor, MS pic on War outfit,
Or after coming, Announcement Jodha is pregnant, &Jodha will believe again Kanha.
So TE, story, not fitting , lets see.

MY point Red + Dark Black.Radhika Good take,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️



Ayushi,

Thanks for sharing your insights!

Jodha is always shown to be submissive to Ruq. Moreover at present, she is emotionally devastated and has no strength to resist Ruq.

I feel Ruq may not be involved directly in the twins' demise because Jalal forgives her after some time.

Many people have asked this Q. Why didn't Jodha take Hussein with her to see Jalal? Only the CVs have the answer. May be she felt Hussein was sleeping and shouldn't be disturbed.

I don't think the CVs will show Jodha pregnant so soon again. 😆


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