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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Friends,

Sorry, my last post reflected my tres ennui with JA at the moment. Which shouldn't have been the case because my job as a TM should be to spread positivity and cheer, not pull you guys down into the dumps. So here's a new thread, full of hope and optimism for the track climax. 😳


Today there was a semblance of happiness on the faces of Jodha and Jalal and both reached out to each other, wondering why the other loved them so much. It was wonderful to see them relaxed and at peace with their small, private world. Today, after many days, they spoke about their mutual love and not just about the kids or their love for the kids. When JA are in the same frame together and contented, it is easy to forget even Hasan and Hussein and their lives tragically cut short. At that time, it is easy to understand how this couple could rise above countless tragedies and surge forth towards their glorious destiny.

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A dejected Jodha is sitting bent with her head bowed in abject misery when Jalal brings Hussein to her. Jodha is ecstatic at first but soon comes down to earth with a thud. What if the BEK, Ruq, were to come to know that Jalal had brought Hussein to Jodha - she would be livid. But Jalal assures her that Ruq is too sick for Hussein to be allowed to be near her. And Hussein will spend the next one week with Jodha.

Jodha is in raptures and wishes to make this one week so memorable for herself that she would be able to spend the rest of her life just reminiscing about it. 😊

Jalal has a tranquil look on his face seeing his Jodha so happy and smiling again and hopes she recovers quickly within this one week.

The scene when Jodha sings a lullaby to Hussein and JAlal sits near her as the song brings him sukoon too is extremely precious just because it is so rare.




Ruq seems to be having chicken pox (?). The hakima suspects Zeenat of having stolen her ark and using it to cause Ruq to fall sick. She immediately goes to her room and checks but the ark is in its place, seemingly untouched. But Zeenat informs us that she was 2 steps ahead of anyone else. Later from her convo with her husband, we learn that she wants them to quit the place and escape as the Hakima had briefly suspected her and she had also not been able to find the pseudo finger.





Qasim has his own share of bad news to impart. He tells her that an inquiry had been ordered into Hasan's death.

However he was not prepared to quit while the going was good. He wanted to continue trying and pushed Zeenat to search for the pseudo finger.

Zeenat tried her best to take Hussein from Jodha but was not successful. Jodha insisted on doing everything for Hussein herself.





Meanwhile Jalal is looking at knives when Jodha and Hussein arrive. Jalal and Jodha exchange notes on how they had been with each other earlier and how they had changed so much with time.

Jalal is called away to meet Todarmal and Man Singh who are apparently waiting for him on the opposite side of the Yamuna.




Jodha is unable to make Hussein sleep. Just then Moti Bai informs her that Jalal had returned to the palace with a head injury and that Jodha should immediately go to attend on him. Jodha is hesitant, torn as she is between Jalal and Hussein. Zeenat then encourages her to go to the man who is willing to give up everything for her sake.

Jodha spends time with Jalal, though he wants her to go to Hussein.




Precap: Hakima informs Jodha that Prince Hussein is no more. Jodha screams, waking up Jalal. We can see a shocked RUq with no trace of whatever rash she had today. And a deeply broken Jodha.


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My view:

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?

5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.

7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?

Meanwhile, Zeenat lands in trouble. The hakima briefly suspected her today. Zeenat had used the hakima's ark but managed to escape by a whisker. Sooner or later, the hakima may rethink about the issue and inform someone of her suspicions.

Salima saw that the finger was burnt. Will Salima aid the TE in his investigations or was that scene just a red herring?



All in all, today was a suspenseful episode with the sword of Damocles' literally and figuratively hanging over little Hussein in a cat and mouse game. Tomorrow the sword will fall and cause the tragic death of Hussein.

I was able to watch the episodes till today. But one look at the wailing Jodha and the shocked Ruq in today's precap sent shivers down my spine and I'm not sure I will be able to watch tomorrow's episode. 😕


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Please share your thoughts about the track, tonight's episode and what may happen tomorrow. 😊





Radhika, I do not think Jalal has any doubt on Zeenat and neither has Jodha. Otherwise Jodha would not have left Hussain with Zeenat
Jodha thinks Ruk trusts Zeenat blindly so she trusted her and also Moti and Zakira were there

Jalal would not have risked Hussain's life by letting Zeenat hang around Jodha and Hussain

It is possible either of 2 things might have happened

Zeenat actually poisoned Hussain and she had said it will take 5 days for the poison to show its effects. We all wondered what had happened to Hassan so fast, he passed away next day itself.
Also both Hassan and Hussain did not get same symptoms Hassan got vomiting and Hussain fever - if he actually had fever that is.

OR

When Jalal walked in on Zeenat with her finger near Hussain's mouth when he took Hussain to meet Jodha - as he Jalal called out Zeenat got startled and we might show in fb that time Hussain actually sucked her finger without her being aware of it. So that might explain Hussain passing away after some days. They might show this in fb

Ruk had said when she inquired about Hassan to Hoshiyaat "hum kabhi nahi chahenge ki bachhe ke kuch ho" - now why would Ruk say that? Was it just a casual sentence or did Ruk give Jodha some arc that actually harmed Hassan instead?

Remember after Hassan passed away Jodha had got so weak she told Jalal she cannot walk more and he made her sit down. What if Jodha was given some arc which harmed Hassan and they arc in Jodha's system made her so weak - which everybody attributed to her mental state?

Maybe Hassan was not harmed by Zeenat she just thought so

What if Hussain did not have fever? Jodha has been worrying about Hussain all the time. What if after Jodha went to meet Jalal - Moti and Zakira nodded off and Zeenat just held her palm on Hussain's face not letting him breathe and then left?

So many possibilities. Why would Jalal doubt Jodha? He has seen her herself taking care of both babies and he learnt from her. Both the babies were safe with Jodha and Jalal. Only when they were out of their presence both times something happened to them

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Radhika I don't think Jalaal got ony clue against Zeenat or he suspects her, if so he wouldn't risk the baby life to punsih the real culprit..

I think the baby died as the poision has been given before when Zeenat feeding to the kid... Zeenat have killed the baby without poison by closing the breathing while feeding milk to the baby...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Friends,

Sorry, my last post reflected my tres ennui with JA at the moment. Which shouldn't have been the case because my job as a TM should be to spread positivity and cheer, not pull you guys down into the dumps. So here's a new thread, full of hope and optimism for the track climax. 😳


Today there was a semblance of happiness on the faces of Jodha and Jalal and both reached out to each other, wondering why the other loved them so much. It was wonderful to see them relaxed and at peace with their small, private world. Today, after many days, they spoke about their mutual love and not just about the kids or their love for the kids. When JA are in the same frame together and contented, it is easy to forget even Hasan and Hussein and their lives tragically cut short. At that time, it is easy to understand how this couple could rise above countless tragedies and surge forth towards their glorious destiny.

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Secene was memorable in ysterday Episode, Couple concern was showed,

A dejected Jodha is sitting bent with her head bowed in abject misery when Jalal brings Hussein to her. Jodha is ecstatic at first but soon comes down to earth with a thud. What if the BEK, Ruq, were to come to know that Jalal had brought Hussein to Jodha - she would be livid. But Jalal assures her that Ruq is too sick for Hussein to be allowed to be near her. And Hussein will spend the next one week with Jodha.

You wrote very beautifully. Jalal feeled Jodha pain, & bring Hussain back to jodha, But here, Jodha fears from Ruk, Why, Right Ruk adopted Hussain, She not like, Hussain will pick by Jodha, But why jodha which we see so much confident, Now fearing, Fearing Why +These days Lack of Will power Its Ok,, When jodha went to Meet Maham, She replied strong Ruk, but sometime CV surprise Us

.Why Jodha have No Authority to Pick child.?
If They want to show,Child should not attach Jodha, If problem is this, Then Ruk is not allowing to Jalal also child. Lot of need Father love to child also. What is in CV mind?😕


Jodha is in raptures and wishes to make this one week so memorable for herself that she would be able to spend the rest of her life just reminiscing about it. 😊

Jalal has a tranquil look on his face seeing his Jodha so happy and smiling again and hopes she recovers quickly within this one week.

The scene when Jodha sings a lullaby to Hussein and JAlal sits near her as the song brings him sukoon too is extremely precious just because it is so rare.


Cute +Relaxable Movements they shared yesterday.

Ruq seems to be having chicken pox (?). The hakima suspects Zeenat of having stolen her ark and using it to cause Ruq to fall sick. She immediately goes to her room and checks but the ark is in its place, seemingly untouched. But Zeenat informs us that she was 2 steps ahead of anyone else. Later from her convo with her husband, we learn that she wants them to quit the place and escape as the Hakima had briefly suspected her and she had also not been able to find the pseudo finger.





Qasim has his own share of bad news to impart. He tells her that an inquiry had been ordered into Hasan's death.

However he was not prepared to quit while the going was good. He wanted to continue trying and pushed Zeenat to search for the pseudo finger.

Zeenat tried her best to take Hussein from Jodha but was not successful. Jodha insisted on doing everything for Hussein herself.





Meanwhile Jalal is looking at knives when Jodha and Hussein arrive. Jalal and Jodha exchange notes on how they had been with each other earlier and how they had changed so much with time.

Jalal is called away to meet Todarmal and Man Singh who are apparently waiting for him on the opposite side of the Yamuna.




Jodha is unable to make Hussein sleep. Just then Moti Bai informs her that Jalal had returned to the palace with a head injury and that Jodha should immediately go to attend on him. Jodha is hesitant, torn as she is between Jalal and Hussein. Zeenat then encourages her to go to the man who is willing to give up everything for her sake.

Jodha spends time with Jalal, though he wants her to go to Hussein.




Precap: Hakima informs Jodha that Prince Hussein is no more. Jodha screams, waking up Jalal. We can see a shocked RUq with no trace of whatever rash she had today. And a deeply broken Jodha.


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My view:

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?

5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.

7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?

Meanwhile, Zeenat lands in trouble. The hakima briefly suspected her today. Zeenat had used the hakima's ark but managed to escape by a whisker. Sooner or later, the hakima may rethink about the issue and inform someone of her suspicions.

Salima saw that the finger was burnt. Will Salima aid the TE in his investigations or was that scene just a red herring?



All in all, today was a suspenseful episode with the sword of Damocles' literally and figuratively hanging over little Hussein in a cat and mouse game. Tomorrow the sword will fall and cause the tragic death of Hussein.

I was able to watch the episodes till today. But one look at the wailing Jodha and the shocked Ruq in today's precap sent shivers down my spine and I'm not sure I will be able to watch tomorrow's episode. 😕


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Please share your thoughts about the track, tonight's episode and what may happen tomorrow. 😊




If TE, Jalal is investigating, Hassan death, But he no doubts, On Zeenat, But Acc to Tata sky, Zeenath +Quasim name is coming for punishment, Ruk name is not coming. But Z man is saying, Ruk exposed, Someone wrote She called Z man said, ruk will not expose,

If Ruk involved in Hassan death, then sure Punishment is Harsh, But Ruk is distanced Some years, & live in Akbar Life.So Ruk will use second another Wish, if she involved.

This thing, not cleared Me, when jodha went Jalal Hozara, Why hussain is not with Her.?After dying one child, Why Cv shows these type of unconciouness, , by Jodha,
Is this is indication Ruk shouating again.
Or Hussain have fever, Zeenat said No fever, So jodha this time no doubt on zeenat.
i think, jodha will be aggain pregnant Now, Girl child will not survive, if this is the reason, Akbar shifted Fathpur sikiri.Is Some war on the floor, MS pic on War outfit,
Or after coming, Announcement Jodha is pregnant, &Jodha will believe again Kanha.
So TE, story, not fitting , lets see.

MY point Red + Dark Black.Radhika Good take,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️


Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: history_geek

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Nice Writeup Radhika..
The Episode had many riddles...

I would like to answer your questions. They Seem interesting...

I, for one, do NOT want ANY TE right now. The stakes in this case are very HIGH, i do not want CV's to use this tactic time and again, to catch any offender.

Jalal should NOT be shown as so much resourceless that he has to resort to such tactics always. This time it is HUSSAIN's life at stake. !!!! Will Jalal risk Hussain to catch Zeenat.?. I do NOT want it this way.

I do not think that there is any TE, and where are all the all the spies of the Mughal Harem, that there is a need for any TE.?. 😕

Even if they show some TE like stuff, then i won't be happy with it.
I still remember the "P A T H E T I C" explanations and flashbacks for Atifa Track, and NO explanations were given for some of the occurrences. Link of that Post 😳

I do not believe the Zee Man but he told that we should wait for 2-3 days, that means, maximum by Wednesday something should happen. Link of the Call.

Coming to your Questions...

Before, i answer these questions, i want to say that the NEW Promo has thrown open my Brains and i can think of so many possibilities, which i have posted somewhere else, as i do not want this beautiful thread to get penalized for History. Do check my Post there.



Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?
I do not think so, as Jalal shouldn't put Hussain's life at risk.. I had mentioned possible involvement on Sharif-ud-din here, who might be hatching a plot against Jalal, but that seems a distant possibility..!!


1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.
If there is any TE, then we will be shown some flashbacks and some details may be given. Remember, Qasim said to Zeenat that, Jalal ordered for an inquiry into the death of Hasan..


2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?
Quite Strange. And this makes me think how come, we are going to get a TE, but you never know the CV's. They are capable of hatching a PLAN out of NO-where to show any shocking stuff and High-Level Planning , full of loop-holes, like the Atifa Track..😉


3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?
Radhika, i do not know anything about this, that why are they showing this Yamuna going stuff, and Jalal getting hurt on the forehead...!!!!
But this made me remember a REAL incident, of roughly the same timeline as the twins birth, and i have posted about this incident in short along with my thoughts on the Promo. Plz do check it out..!!! 😊


4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?
As i said above, i do not know about this, but a similar incident happened really, around the same time as twins. Do check my post "there".😉


5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.
I think this was normal, she was worried about Jalal. She thought about Hussain also but left to see Jalal, as Moti and Zakira were also with Hussain.


6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.
Logically thinking and considering that Jalal is Shahenshah-e-Hind, i do NOT want him to be shown so naive as to put the life of Hussain at risk, in order to catch/trap Zeenat. 😕 If he got that "pseudo-finger" then also, they should think that the culprit can HAVE ANY number of such "pseudo-fingers" or other means of attacking the child. What say.?. 😉 Hence, leaving the kid with the suspect would be a suicidal move.


7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?
Jalal DOES NOT(and should not) suspect(S) Zeenat at the moment, i feel so. But, Agar CV's show us some FB's then i am helpless here.🤢 Though, i think NO suspicion right now..
And, i want the Creatives NOT to show that "NON-sense theory" like Atifa Track. 😳
There is NO rule that Jalal has to FIRST Search the "SABUT" and then arrest the person.🥱
For God's sake, he is a powerful MAN, and has enough methods which Kings used to employ to get the truth extracted from the suspect.
The CV's should stop the drama.😕 {<<If they are planning to show this and prove the TE case here. }


8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?
No Idea. Because, In this Show, >>
a. The Promos are Dreams, 😕
b. The Precaps are Misleading, 😉
c. And the MOST IMPORTANT Plans to catch the assassins are shown in "Half-Baked Flashbacks" devoid of complete explanations.😆
I am in NO MOOD to accept the TE in this track, if the Creatives are trying to show ONE here, hence i am writing like this today.. I still, can NOT forget that blunderous Atifa Track for showing TE. 😕


9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?
I was thinking about the "thinking" of the CV's.😆 They show us the MOST minor sadistic details BUT not some good refreshing scenes. Tell me, what was the need to show the Chicken Pox "type" disease of Ruqayya Begum, more so when it got cured quite early.?.🤓



My thoughts on the Promo::

The CV's have brought back the OLD Jalal for a reason. And we have historical backing for this..😊 I do not know if this is a short lived Avatar of Akbar, but in my opinion it should be a LONG driven role.

I have been writing at so many places that i do NOT want ONLY a SAINTLY Emperor, i ALSO want the "Strong/Authoritative/Ruthless" Emperor BACK, to find the RIGHT Balance.!!!!. Though, I can write N number of odes to justify that kingdoms can be won by winning hearts of people ONLY..

BUT in reality that is NOT the case. Ekta has shown enough of Saintly Qualities of Jalal. And, i wanted to see something close to REALity. Those who have read it, know it better.
The Promo Seems to be a glimpse of the same.

Check the new place, i have made a separate LONG Post on Promo, and given my thoughts. The writeup on Promo is quite interesting, as i have written it with complete freedom.😉


My thoughts on the Spoiler::


I will NEVER believe that Jalal can EVER get angry with Jodha now and think that, she could, in any way, be responsible for the Twins demise. On the other hand, i am worried about Ruqayya, as she may get the treatment from Jalal, in case she accuses Jodha.😉

Remember that, we are still to see HOW the CV's Plan to put Ruqs in her place. Many things are still under wraps and i am getting ready to see COUNT-less Flashbacks for explanations.😆

I hope the UN-predicatable CV's of Jodha Akbar do not betray me. 😳


nice post abhay😛...
Nd I hope ki cvs kuch acha hi dikhaye...old jalal wapas aayega ...means ab vo apni life ke sultanat ke decisions bhi khud hi lega...

Lekin meri problem hai cvs ka villains ke liye beinteehan pyaar ...
I hope is baar cvs villains ke against bhi kuch likhey jaldi se jaldi pakadwaane ki koshish karey..show mein...
Main nahi chahti ki aisi hi bachke nikal jaaye zeenat or qasim
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

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Nice Writeup Radhika..
The Episode had many riddles...

I would like to answer your questions. They Seem interesting...

I, for one, do NOT want ANY TE right now. The stakes in this case are very HIGH, i do not want CV's to use this tactic time and again, to catch any offender.

Jalal should NOT be shown as so much resourceless that he has to resort to such tactics always. This time it is HUSSAIN's life at stake. !!!! Will Jalal risk Hussain to catch Zeenat.?. I do NOT want it this way.

I do not think that there is any TE, and where are all the all the spies of the Mughal Harem, that there is a need for any TE.?. 😕

Even if they show some TE like stuff, then i won't be happy with it.
I still remember the "P A T H E T I C" explanations and flashbacks for Atifa Track, and NO explanations were given for some of the occurrences. Link of that Post 😳

I do not believe the Zee Man but he told that we should wait for 2-3 days, that means, maximum by Wednesday something should happen. Link of the Call.

Coming to your Questions...

Before, i answer these questions, i want to say that the NEW Promo has thrown open my Brains and i can think of so many possibilities, which i have posted somewhere else, as i do not want this beautiful thread to get penalized for History. Do check my Post there.



Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?
I do not think so, as Jalal shouldn't put Hussain's life at risk.. I had mentioned possible involvement on Sharif-ud-din here, who might be hatching a plot against Jalal, but that seems a distant possibility..!!


1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.
If there is any TE, then we will be shown some flashbacks and some details may be given. Remember, Qasim said to Zeenat that, Jalal ordered for an inquiry into the death of Hasan..


2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?
Quite Strange. And this makes me think how come, we are going to get a TE, but you never know the CV's. They are capable of hatching a PLAN out of NO-where to show any shocking stuff and High-Level Planning , full of loop-holes, like the Atifa Track..😉


3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?
Radhika, i do not know anything about this, that why are they showing this Yamuna going stuff, and Jalal getting hurt on the forehead...!!!!
But this made me remember a REAL incident, of roughly the same timeline as the twins birth, and i have posted about this incident in short along with my thoughts on the Promo. Plz do check it out..!!! 😊


4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?
As i said above, i do not know about this, but a similar incident happened really, around the same time as twins. Do check my post "there".😉


5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.
I think this was normal, she was worried about Jalal. She thought about Hussain also but left to see Jalal, as Moti and Zakira were also with Hussain.


6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.
Logically thinking and considering that Jalal is Shahenshah-e-Hind, i do NOT want him to be shown so naive as to put the life of Hussain at risk, in order to catch/trap Zeenat. 😕 If he got that "pseudo-finger" then also, they should think that the culprit can HAVE ANY number of such "pseudo-fingers" or other means of attacking the child. What say.?. 😉 Hence, leaving the kid with the suspect would be a suicidal move.


7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?
Jalal DOES NOT(and should not) suspect(S) Zeenat at the moment, i feel so. But, Agar CV's show us some FB's then i am helpless here.🤢 Though, i think NO suspicion right now..
And, i want the Creatives NOT to show that "NON-sense theory" like Atifa Track. 😳
There is NO rule that Jalal has to FIRST Search the "SABUT" and then arrest the person.🥱
For God's sake, he is a powerful MAN, and has enough methods which Kings used to employ to get the truth extracted from the suspect.
The CV's should stop the drama.😕 {<<If they are planning to show this and prove the TE case here. }


8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?
No Idea. Because, In this Show, >>
a. The Promos are Dreams, 😕
b. The Precaps are Misleading, 😉
c. And the MOST IMPORTANT Plans to catch the assassins are shown in "Half-Baked Flashbacks" devoid of complete explanations.😆
I am in NO MOOD to accept the TE in this track, if the Creatives are trying to show ONE here, hence i am writing like this today.. I still, can NOT forget that blunderous Atifa Track for showing TE. 😕


9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?
I was thinking about the "thinking" of the CV's.😆 They show us the MOST minor sadistic details BUT not some good refreshing scenes. Tell me, what was the need to show the Chicken Pox "type" disease of Ruqayya Begum, more so when it got cured quite early.?.🤓



My thoughts on the Promo::

The CV's have brought back the OLD Jalal for a reason. And we have historical backing for this..😊 I do not know if this is a short lived Avatar of Akbar, but in my opinion it should be a LONG driven role.

I have been writing at so many places that i do NOT want ONLY a SAINTLY Emperor, i ALSO want the "Strong/Authoritative/Ruthless" Emperor BACK, to find the RIGHT Balance.!!!!. Though, I can write N number of odes to justify that kingdoms can be won by winning hearts of people ONLY..

BUT in reality that is NOT the case. Ekta has shown enough of Saintly Qualities of Jalal. And, i wanted to see something close to REALity. Those who have read it, know it better.
The Promo Seems to be a glimpse of the same.

Check the new place, i have made a separate LONG Post on Promo, and given my thoughts. The writeup on Promo is quite interesting, as i have written it with complete freedom.😉


My thoughts on the Spoiler::


I will NEVER believe that Jalal can EVER get angry with Jodha now and think that, she could, in any way, be responsible for the Twins demise. On the other hand, i am worried about Ruqayya, as she may get the treatment from Jalal, in case she accuses Jodha.😉

Remember that, we are still to see HOW the CV's Plan to put Ruqs in her place. Many things are still under wraps and i am getting ready to see COUNT-less Flashbacks for explanations.😆

I hope the UN-predicatable CV's of Jodha Akbar do not betray me. 😳


Abhay I completely agree with u...there is no plan for catching Zeenat red handed here...coz this is about Hussain's life! so Jalal will never take such risk...Jalal still is not doubting Zeenat or Qasim...how will Hussain die we will get to know tonight only.

but the promo is very interesting...he lost his kids...his blood...so he is furious...he is angry on Allah that He took away his twins...he is in furry thinking he has been good to everyone after Jallad face..he has been forgiving sinners..he has been fair to his awam...he performed every Islamic ritual wholeheartedly..he reads namaaz 5 times a day..then what made Allah take away his most precious gifts when he had them after years of mannat? hence he said those that he will return to his old-self so that while punishing criminals he doesnt feel mercy or his hands dont shake.
JJ will come more closer...and this time to protect Jodha, Jalal will become ruthless.
I am also worried for Ruqaiyya thinking what she is gonna face now!😉😆 coz this time this is heartless Jalal to the one who harmed his aapna.😎 Zeenat-Qasim ka hashr kya hoga yeh hum jante hai😉

*runs to read ruthless Jalal's raaz*😉
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Hey all,
Here's a quick post. Gotta rush.

Wonderful posts Radhika Di and Abhay. :)
After watching the episode yesterday I was a bit confused but after reading your views i am able to think clearly. You have put in almost all the questions that i had had while watching it.There were a lot of things there in the episode that, say, surprised me or raised my suspicions.
1. Why ,all of a sudden, did the hakima start having suspicions on Zeenat? The look on her face was enough to tell us that she didn't trust Zeenat. But why? Did the pox alert her? It seemed as if she was suspecting that ruk didn't fall ill 'naturally' but the symptoms are the side effects of an ark (one administered by Zeenat ) and that Zeenat had a hand in it. Being a hakima she would know that but why in all this was she suspecting Zeenat? Why did she think that Zee would benefit if Ruk were to fall sick and what according to her were the benefits? It told me that she knows something maybe wrt the burnt finger and poisoned finger glove. Her curt greeting to Zeenat has got me thinking. I read in one of the spoiler alerts that hakima will be of great help in this track so maybe this is what it is.

2.Someone please tell me when Jodha was informed by moti that Jalal had hurt himself and she was in a dilemma whether to go to him or stay back with Hussein , why didn't she think of taking the baby with her? It wasn't like Jalal had some communicable disease. She could have taken Hussein and left to see Jalal as soon as she got to know about him being injured. That way she could have cared for her husband while having her son close to herself as well. There wasn't any reason to be torn or to choose between her husband and her son(who supposedly is having high fever but Jo simply accepted Zeenat's word that it's not so) until and unless its some sort of a plan. Very strange! !!

3. Jalal never forced her to go back to Hussein or in that case didn't ask her to get him there either. He had no problem that he was with zakira, moti and zeenat. He trusts these 3 people so much?
I am left wondering about the 'tehkeekat' into Hassan's death. why all of a sudden did he think that Hassan didn't die simply because he was ill? I do not want to see a TE here (recalling the atifa track...ugghhh) as much as I may love him because CVs definition of teda has definitely changed and also because it deals with Hussein here. I don't think Jalal will be so naive as to put his son in danger only to catch the culprit. I pray we do not get to see anything of that sort.

Coming to the precap, we are in for a emotionally draining episode yet again. With this my worst fears are also coming true i.e. Hussein was given to Jodha as Ruk was ill and the baby will die when he is with his mother and hence we may get to see Ruk screeching, shouting and blaming Jodha. Also Zeenat isn't caught yet. she will only be after she is successful in killing hussein too. How pathetic is that!

I wouldn't like to comment on the promo. I liked your blog wrt this Abhay. What happens and how that promo fits here remains to be seen. Please do not disappoint us for once CVs. Its an earnest request.

Another thing that has got me really irritated is that the reverse farmaan was nothing but a lollypop. I was happy and had high hopes when Jalal came up with the reverse farmaan but it turned out to be of no use. Because as of now Jalal hasn't managed to apply it on Ruk thus taking the baby back forever for she has committed no mistake for that to happen and the babies are no more now.

It was also refreshing to watch Jodha and Jalal sharing some peaceful moments with each other and Hussein. Good to see them basking in their love for each other after long. It was painful too because we all know about the impending gloom and that the storm is going to hit them with full vengeance all over again. Tough times ahead for this beautiful couple but they are gonna come out of it stonger than before.

Your thoughts??
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Originally posted by: prav2

Hi Radhika,

Hi Priya,

Thanks for the post. I was waiting to read your take on the episode.

Welcome. 😊

For me, The episode was not bad in itself. The opening scenes were so beautiful. Jalal bringing the baby and both deriving solace from the baby and gaining strength to get over their pain was so beautifully done. It looked like calm before storm,but these scene are so rare these days with lot of negativity hogging always. This track completely belongs to Rajat and pari .Each day they are bringing in such finite expressions into their acting.

I thought the hakima scene would lead to more interesting scenes but it seems almost everyone gets suspicion on zeenat and yet she is saved everytime.fate?

I was happy at least jo got a few days to spend time with hussain and he also had a few peaceful days.But i wished he wouldn't die in hands of jo.But alas the cvs are again going the torture route.Jo and ja are going to blame themselves for it and we have to put with all ruqs ranting.

In a way, Priya, it's good Hussein died near Jodha. She has some memories now of Hussein too that will give peace later. She will be happy later that she had been able to spend some time with Hussein. She will be able to hold him for the last time and bid him farewell properly. If Hussein had died near Ruq, she would never have allowed Jodha to touch him or hold him for the last time.

Hussein too will be at peace dying in his mother's arms. At the time of death, everyone wants the presence of their close ones near them. It gives them sukoon.

Spending time with Hussein healed Jodha partially. Now she is capable of taking Hussein's death better than if she had kept on wallowing in grief over Hasan's death.


And to your questions.

Are the CVs planning to spring a TE on us?

I think so too. But I guess he is still not sure who is it .maybe he suspects sharif or suspect there could be a chance of foulplay.

Possible 😊

1. Jalal orders an inquiry into the fire incident on jashn night.

2. Jalal orders an inquiry into the death of Hasan. But he hasn't stepped up security for Hussein. Isn't this strange?

I thought hussains security was beefed up by ruq. Even we saw a scene where other begums were laughing abt her being paranoid. May be he could have thought he is safe as far as now. Not sure at all.

Ruq had taken care of security when Hussein was with her. Now there seems to be no security outside Jodha's hojra. 😊

3. Why does Jalal go to the opposite bank of the Yamuna to meet Todarmal and Man Singh?

I too find that very fishy. It could also just be a red herring.But somehow I thought birbal would have a role to play .

4. How did Jalal get the head injury? We were not given any explanation. Isn't it strange that Jodha didn't ask him this obvious Q?

I think she thought he was hurt during practice .But yes it seems odd she didn't ask that and I find that injury too odd. A cut in the hand or something like that is ok .How did he got hit in the head.

5. Jodha feels Hussein has fever but Zeenat denies this. Jodha accepts her word for it.

Ya that too was odd.But I guess she got confused on hearing abt jalals injury and the fever might have just begun not much.. so she might have also thought she is imagining.

6. Jalal does not show any alarm that Jodha has left Hussein with Zeenat. He doesn't force her to go either. It means that either he is trying to trap Zeenat or he doesn't suspect Zeenat at all.

It could be either .But I would like to go with he doesn't suspect her .If he does ,isn't it risky to leave her with hussain?They could have got the ungli but she can try any number of ways.so as far now I want to believe he is not aware of it.

I also hope so.


7. Why would Jalal suspect Zeenat enough to try and trap her? Is it because of the ark she tried to feed Hussein?

I don't get this .What ark? Did they show anything like that?

Initially, she had tried to feed something to Hussein and Javeda had seen her. At the time, the hakima had said that whatever Zeenat had give the baby was good for a change.

8. Has anyone discovered the pseudo finger? Where is it?

I hope they had and thats what the meeting is all about in Yamuna.

9. How is Ruq cured of her rash / allergy / chicken pox / whatever so quickly by tomorrow?

If we see a voice over said some days had passed and jalal and jo finding solace in hussain. So that could be the reason.So may her disease is also cured.

Salima saw that the finger was burnt. Will Salima aid the TE in his investigations or was that scene just a red herring?

I'm not sure on that aid front ,But later ,she might serve as a witness when zeenat is exposed.


Logical answers, PRiya!!! 😊


P.S.

Radhika there is a new promo where jalal says he has become heartless and going to be a cruel ruler who doesn't know what love is to begin with and they say it also showed ruq and jo crying. I still hope it is connected with the punishment of zeenat and not any mu on joja front. Would love to know your take on it too.

Priya, pls see this link for my views on this

Link

Priya,

thanks for sharing your clear views. :)


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Originally posted by: surochitadutta

Radhika thanks for the post... Your, Maddy's and Mansi Di's threads are like oasis in the dessert... Which is always a relief...

Thanks for the compliment :)

I am so restless after reading the updats of today's episode... My head is spinning and am so confused... This show has become sheer torture these days... UFF ek din ki bhi shanti nehi hai... I wonder which pervert minded person is writing these kinds of torturous track... Mazak bana diya Twins ke death ko...

Your questions make sense... Actually thanks for asking these questions as most of us have overlooked all these parts... And now I am going to ponder upon these questions for rest of the night... Your 3rd question is brilliant... Aisi kiya baat hai that Todarmal and Maan Singh had to talk with Jalal on the other side of the river... Kuch toh gadbad hai!!!!


Acha Radhika can it happen that it is Hussain who was poisoned by Zeenat... Remember she said the symptoms of the poison will start showing up after 5 days and Hassan died immediately the next day... Maybe Hassan died because of some drug given by Ruqaiyya... Maybe she wanted to show Jodha as a careless and negligent mother so she drugged Hassan maybe by mistake or due to her being ignorant about drugs and dosage to be given she gave higher dosage than required and it caused Hassan's death...

Or are we missing something?????

Whatever it is I don't want TE at the cost of Hussain.. It will be so foolish if they show it.. I don't want Jalal to stand by Jodha and not to doubt her or blame her for Hussain's death ...if this happens then it will be the end of this epic love story... Ruqaiyya can go and Rott in hell for all I care...


Tell your views on the new promo... I am feeling hopeless after hearing about it... Why is Jalal saying he will not believe in love hence forth???? Is it just a vilap of a young father who lost her son's or is it indicating towards something else... Or is it another misleading promo...


Soch soch ke sir dard kar rahi hai meri... God knows what are these pervert minded creatives show us...


Surochita,

Don't worry. Most of us are in the same boat as you. Confused and holding our heads in frustration 😆

Stop thinking and wait and watch. Aage aage dekho hota hain kya. 😊

Jalal will not doubt Jodha and Jodha will not go to Amer. The chasm between Jalal and Ruq will increase after this track.

I don't really believe in the swap theory or the TE theory but anything is possible. 😊

See this link for my views on promo. 😊 Link

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Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


Excellent writeup Radhika . I loved all the different points that you have listed .

Thanks, Charu! 😊

'Why do you love me so much Jodha begum ', the shehenshah asked her .

Because YOU BOTH ARE SOUL MATES I would like to reply . Jodha is only reciprocating the love that Jalal feels for her . Until now , we saw Jodha understanding his every mood and need without him having to express it . Now Jalal has begun to understand her 'silence' too .He confidently told her in Friday's episode that he knows her better than she does herself .

I believe that there is a subtle message conveyed in that beautiful scene between Jalal and Jodha , in today's episode and also for that dialogue .

It is preparing us to understand that they are meant to be together, they are incomplete without each other,they are emotionally and spiritually connected to each other , destined to go through more grief together , heal together , and emerge stronger than before , ... together .

I wish the Creatives highlight the spiritual connection between the two by showing us their 'soul talk' after Hussein's death .

I agree with you here. 😊

Radhika , I feel that Jalal is already suspicious of something strange happening in the harem .
I could be completely wrong in thinking this way , but I feel that it may be Birbal who found the 'zehreli ungli ' contraption in the garden and alerted Jalal that Hassan's death may not be a natural one . The trip to the banks of the Yamuna ,( away from the mahal ) may have been to discuss the method of executing the plans to solve the suspicion and nab the culprit . I think Jalal will ask Birbal to spy on the happenings in the harem . He may also take Hoshiyar Khan into confidence and eventually it may be Hoshiyar who will reveal Rukaiya's evil intentions behind asking for one of Jodha's twins .

We were informed that Todarmal and Man Singh were waiting for him, not Birbal. Still anything is possible. 😊

Just like you , even I found lots of unanswered questions today . I will not watch tomorrow's episode but will read the synopsis . I do not believe that there will be any misunderstandings between Jodha and Jalal . We saw him cooing to baby Hussein that he is very lucky to have Jodha as his mother , he will suspect Zeenat of foul play because Jodha clearly tells him that she has come to fulfill her wifely duties towards him , entrusting Hussein to Zeenat . Once he hears the news of Husseins death , his sharp brain will put the pieces of the puzzle together and Zeenat will get caught . Eventually it will be revealed that cousins Mirza and Zeenat had come with the purpose of taking revenge on Jalal for avenging Humayun's act of blinding Mirza's father .

This is quite likely. 😊 Let's see if the Creatives think like you!

Charu .

Thanks for sharing a possible track finale - it seems quite logical and likely. 😊

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Originally posted by: prav2

Sorry Radhika ,all your questions are so valid and whatever answer i gave are mere execuses that i give to myself whenever i try to find some logic .Its better not to look for logic at all.I just now want ruqs exposal and end of the track asap as its already emotionally trying experience.


Priya,

Pls do not say sorry 😊 You wrote good points. You are free to post your views on this thread.😊

It's an extremely emotionally gut-wrenching and mentally illogical track. We all hope it ENDS SOON!!! And the guilty are punished properly.

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