JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 15

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Preet,

That spoiler should NOT come true, because then there would NOT be any Justification for this LOVE STORY. Agar itne saare MU's ke baad bhi kuch nahi sikha to kya sikha.?.

I can predict massive fall in TRP's.. Also, we know after twins demise they were together for war + Pilgrimage. Kisi bhi angle se i do not think this spoiler is true.

Separation at this phase of life would be a big blow to Jodha. How can he blame Jodha now.?. It is Jalal who has held the Fort, and i do NOT BELIEVE this spoiler. He is very much laying his trust on Jodha, and I do not think aisa kuch hoga. 😊



I hope to coz if he will blame now she will die or commit sucide
kids dead plus she has no faith left the n kanha only thing she depending is him jalal with her if he blame she will die
and no story would be left I don't know but I cant see this
show will be doomed with no trp in hand
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Preet,

That spoiler should NOT come true, because then there would NOT be any Justification for this LOVE STORY. Agar itne saare MU's ke baad bhi kuch nahi sikha to kya sikha.?.

I can predict massive fall in TRP's.. Also, we know after twins demise they were together for war + Pilgrimage. Kisi bhi angle se i do not think this spoiler is true.

Separation at this phase of life would be a big blow to Jodha. How can he blame Jodha now.?. It is Jalal who has held the Fort, and i do NOT BELIEVE this spoiler. He is very much laying his trust on Jodha, and I do not think aisa kuch hoga. 😊


Hi Abhay,
Just read that spoiler and i must say i didn't like it..
you're right in saying itni MUs ke baad bhi kuch nahi sikha to kya sikha?
I hope this doesn't come true...
Been absent from here since yesterday..so no clue about what you guys think about these 2 epis..
For me, Jalal was superb today and so was Jodha.. i feel for these two man...
As for Ruk, no words... she is beyond me..
Precap looks scary too.. Hussein to die next week..i wanted to see Zeenat caught before she gets to Hussein and the baby is back with Jodha but Cvs toh 😡
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Oct 10

So, Jalal is already simmering. And, he gave it back to Ruqaiyya.
Faltu mein all were going after Jalal. He very much understands Jodha.
Actually, he is restraining himself. 😉

I am not able to get Ruqs logic. She can give the Kid to Khwaja Shera and Zeenat but not to Jodha.
Also, we were right in thinking that Ruqs has been drugged.
Now, Kid goes to Jodha, and Zeenat is here also...


Precap:
Hussain with Jodha, Jodha comes to know Jalal has been hurt badly in head. She is about to leave to go to Jalal, but stops. Zeenat is present in Jodha's Hojra as well.

Note:
Will Ruqs again blame Jodha.?. That is obvious. One thing which is clear is that, Salima Begum also saw Zeenat's burnt finger. That is for a specific reason. We know anyways, Jalal is present with her. And Zeenat would be caught. We all know that Hussain won't survive, so let us NOT spoil the weekend thinking what will happen to Jodha. Enjoy your coming festival. Best Wishes. 😊


Ruqaiyya is going rapidly downhill. Everyday, her behavior is becoming even more difficult to bear. So is her downfall imminent? Hopefully by next Friday, Zeenat will be caught and her involvement in the poisoning of the twins will be exposed.

Zeenat was not able to poison Hussein, as Jalal arrived just then to take the child from her. Gathering that Ruq would be busy for sometime, Jalal happily took Hussein to the waiting Jodha. She was so thrilled to hold Hussein in her arms and shower all her maternal love on him. Jalal knew he had done the right thing by bringing Hussein to her.

But Ruq was not one to give in so easily. She immediately marched upto Jodha and took away Hussein on the pretext that he was to be fed. (What is laughable here is that Ruq seems to go by the clock to decide when Hussein should be fed and how much or rather how long. I mean doesn't Hussein ever get to decide anything - whether he wants to be fed or whether he's had enough? Poor baby is extremely cooperative with his mother's military regime.)

Jalal was burning in anger while Jodha turned away slightly, holding Hussein more tightly, unwilling to let him go. No matter what Jodha says, she cannot help her love from bursting forth and seeking release. Jalal too saw this and was greatly irritated by Ruq's cheap antics.

Ruq telling Zeenat that she trusted only her was laughable. What will be Ruq's reaction when she learns of Zeenat's plan?

I liked the Jalal-Jodha talk. Jodha was unwilling to make Ruq suffer, as she was suffering. Jodha felt that Ruq truly loved Hussein and wanted him to be safe. But, deep within, her heart did crave for little Husein. Jalal, who knows Ruq and Jodha inside out, was ready to break his promise but unwilling to keep Hussein away from Jodha. He was most keen to din it into Ruq's head that Hussein was Jodha's son, that she had sacrificed a lot so that Ruq could be happy and therefore RUq must appreciate and value Jodha.

I am glad he stopped short of slapping Ruq but am equally glad that he gave her a good dose today. You were right in your assessment of Jalal and Ruq and also guessed correctly that Ruq was given some medicine to make her temporarily ill.

Jalal asked the same Q as you, Abhay - why Ruq could trust Zeenat and Khwaja Sheras but not Jodha. Thankfully, Hamida and Salima also piped in. So Jalal took the decision himself and promptly walked off with Hussein before Ruq could say anything further on the topic.

Side note: I didn't see anything resembling a hug when Jalal rushed to Ruq's side, as she fainted. He was just holding her from falling down. Nor did Jalal grace Ruq with any "get well soon" hug or forehead kiss today. This should make everyone happy.

Abhay, Thanks for the update!

I have a few Qs: 😊

1.. What is the significance of the burnt finger? In fact, I didn't see clearly. How did the finger get burnt? Was it due to the poisoned finger glove or due to the mashal falling on it?

2. What is the significance of the poison finger glove getting misplaced and being found again?

3. Is there any significance to Salima being present when Zeenat is searching for her missing poison finger glove.

4. How does Jalal get so injured in the head? Is this a lucky coincidence or did Zeenat do anything to get Jodha out of her hojra?

Edited by RadhikaS0 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi Neetz..

My views are same as yours.

Jalal was superb, and about Ruqayya i have stopped thinking now. ;p
Here are my views in short about today's episode. > 114386669

About the spoiler, it is totally someone's imagination. We had similar types of spoilers before also, but they did not come out to be true. MU at this stage does not looks a good idea and impossible.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Neetz..

My views are same as yours.

Jalal was superb, and about Ruqayya i have stopped thinking now. ;p
Here are my views in short about today's episode. > 114386669

About the spoiler, it is totally someone's imagination. We had similar types of spoilers before also, but they did not come out to be true. MU at this stage does not looks a good idea and impossible.

Nice to know that you share my views.
Unable to make a detailed post... :/
I never believe the promos and spoilers but this track has got me all worked up..
I will take a look at your views.. got to run now.. i have been saying this from past half an hour.. this place is addictive..once you start sharing your views, it gets difficult to leave.. ufff.. :p
Radhika Di nice post.. :)
good night..See you guys tmrw... i would like to discuss this..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi akka...

Why sometime it seems that life's happening is unfair? All our life we never once done anything to anyone including animals that hurts or pain them. Not at least consciously. Then why is it looks like God giving punishment by permanently taking away someone who was very dear to our heart. The attachment with that person is very strong that the sudden departure compel us to question the almighty, why me? The sadness and helplessness due to the light of life being extinguished forever might turn into anger. Why? Because the very foundation of believe and trust on Him have badly shaken.

As long as we see from the grieving person POV there will be no end or answer. The subsequent explanation might sound like sermon, so bear with me. So let us see the whole process from the eyes of God. He created us. Here it does not refer to the body nor emotion nor mind but the soul which has His essences. He did not mass produce all soul at once. Therefore the age of every soul is different. Some are young and some are old. All with different level of maturity. The soul goal is to be back from where it came from. The path it walks is of experience. The happenings that one face are due to their past action. And due to Maya, the memories of past are hidden from us on over current life, to protect from burdening ourselves.

More than being just, God is compassionate. We are only made to face what we can withstand. And young souls(like ruks and Maham) are forgiven for now coz they just cannot withstand it. Jodha is very matured person and she to must made some bad karma which must be resolved now and it is destined that way. As much as god love to test his best devotee be also makes sure the devotee does not fail. Here Jodha and Jalal are blessed to have each other to across this depressing time.

One more thing, why Ruks is like this. How can kindness, selflessness, humanity, love and many other good qualities are absent in her. As I said earlier she is young, not matured will be more appropriate. Expecting Ruks having the above qualities is like asking a 7 year old to solve algebra maths problem. She will evolve based on her own speed and it take time, might be some life cycle. This way I could not hate her and I don't harbor any kind of feeling for her. The best is ignore her.
By the way, in yesterdays epi where ameris where getting insulted, see Bharmal's reaction towards ruks, its like seeing an alien or something.

About Jalal's silent, for me I forgive him this time around. He is exhausted and seems like lost all energy. To shout and silence ruks, he needed to be angry but I guess he is still very hurt and the pain might have supersedes anger. But precap suggest that Ruks finally touched the limit line. I'm not upset on Jalal for helping Ruks. Its an instinctive reaction when someone is sick. I still think there is more that meet the eye regarding ruks actions.

Jodha is angry with khana, true but she have not stop believing in god. in the scene after jalal gone to check on Hussein, she subconsciously prayed to ishwar to protect her child.
Akka...this track is very emotionally draining. Past memories that I thought I have buried actually still there as fresh as if it happen yesterday. This track just brought back them and I'm still dealing with it.

Akka...regarding islamic finance, I will pm u, now only he started with introduction.

Good night.



Purani,

Well written! 👏 Thanks for sharing such deep thoughts with us. 😊

I find the whole show emotionally draining...it happens Purani that some things trigger our hidden memories and bring them to the fore. But it needn't be hurtful or bad. It can be a good thing too. If you can face those memories and accept them thankfully for having taught you important life lessons, you will be able to get rid of the fears associated with these memories. 😊


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2


Hi Manu,

Sorry to come in. But I'm deeply moved by your post . The way you have putforth the purpose of life could make a nonbeliever into a believer . Loved your entire post and lines in bold are exceptional.I don't know if it is a coincidence or what but these last two days whenever i thought of penning down some thought especially here i see a reflection of it done before ,but even if i have tried i wouldn't have been able to put it as elegantly as you have done and i applaud you for that👏
i don't know if i believe in cycles of life but yes i do believe in phases of soul and like you put
life is a continuous battle within oneself to attain a state of nirvana where you realize you could never truly own anything but our deeds may leave a mark which makes us immortal in the hearts of others and for me i see it as jalal and jo are in these final phases before attaining the enlightenment.Thanks once again for this beautiful post.


Priya,

Its Purani above. 😊

@ bold: This is known as leaving a legacy. When we die, we should be able to leave a legacy to the next generation.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Neetz

Nice to know that you share my views.

Unable to make a detailed post... :/
I never believe the promos and spoilers but this track has got me all worked up..
I will take a look at your views.. got to run now.. i have been saying this from past half an hour.. this place is addictive..once you start sharing your views, it gets difficult to leave.. ufff.. :p
Radhika Di nice post.. :)
good night..See you guys tmrw... i would like to discuss this..


Thanks, Neetz! :)

Hope to see you tmrw with your detailed views. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Oct 10

So, Jalal is already simmering. And, he gave it back to Ruqaiyya.
Faltu mein all were going after Jalal. He very much understands Jodha.
Actually, he is restraining himself. 😉

I am not able to get Ruqs logic. She can give the Kid to Khwaja Shera and Zeenat but not to Jodha.
Also, we were right in thinking that Ruqs has been drugged.
Now, Kid goes to Jodha, and Zeenat is here also...


Precap:
Hussain with Jodha, Jodha comes to know Jalal has been hurt badly in head. She is about to leave to go to Jalal, but stops. Zeenat is present in Jodha's Hojra as well.

Note:
Will Ruqs again blame Jodha.?. That is obvious. One thing which is clear is that, Salima Begum also saw Zeenat's burnt finger. That is for a specific reason. We know anyways, Jalal is present with her. And Zeenat would be caught. We all know that Hussain won't survive, so let us NOT spoil the weekend thinking what will happen to Jodha. Enjoy your coming festival. Best Wishes. 😊


lol abhay it wasn't faltu. This is 1st time Ja has said something against ruq abt her exorbitant disobedience behavior otherwise till date he was only staring at ruq remaining mum...infact its too late when jalal has raised his voice against ruq b/c for ruq's extreme audacity (which should have been controled by ja since a long time ago)today he n jo have faced the biggest loss in their life. Infact who knew suddenly jalal would yelp against for her misbhavior with bharmal n dadisa privately when ever he could haven't done anything before them. This is largely called inconsistancy of a character.
@radhika: i agree with u but i have yet to watch epi. Without watching epi it won't b r8 to give view abt anything.
Edited by ILTHBEB - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Oct 10

So, Jalal is already simmering. And, he gave it back to Ruqaiyya.
Faltu mein all were going after Jalal. He very much understands Jodha.
Actually, he is restraining himself. 😉

I am not able to get Ruqs logic. She can give the Kid to Khwaja Shera and Zeenat but not to Jodha.
Also, we were right in thinking that Ruqs has been drugged.
Now, Kid goes to Jodha, and Zeenat is here also...


Precap:
Hussain with Jodha, Jodha comes to know Jalal has been hurt badly in head. She is about to leave to go to Jalal, but stops. Zeenat is present in Jodha's Hojra as well.

Note:
Will Ruqs again blame Jodha.?. That is obvious. One thing which is clear is that, Salima Begum also saw Zeenat's burnt finger. That is for a specific reason. We know anyways, Jalal is present with her. And Zeenat would be caught. We all know that Hussain won't survive, so let us NOT spoil the weekend thinking what will happen to Jodha. Enjoy your coming festival. Best Wishes. 😊

Thanks Abhay for your lovely views.
I have faith in Jalal like I had faith in him during Aatifa track that he was acting .But when it comes to Ruku,I don't have any faith in him.He has always been generous with Ruku.Like today when he was shouting at her ,it was ok but for a person like Ruku it should be more strenuous..And that dialogue later on ,that she must have fallen ill because I scolded her ,was so pathetic.
I am so sorry for venting.
Edited by Rashmi81 - 10 years ago

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