JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 17

Originally posted by: pari_akdha

abhay i have already seen it...the post is awsome..thankyou.

Originally posted by: severus1

Great write-up Radhika and Abhay. Ruqaiya is really solipsistic.

Originally posted by: pari_akdha

abhay many time i asked u a question about khurram and ruquaiyaa...but i want to know that when ruqaiya restircted his spending time with his own mother then salim or muz or akbar or jagat gossain didnt do anything..😊

Thanks Radhika...after reading maddy's and abhay's post .. i was @ peace and watched the episode ...after long time epi was good..today jalal was good this shows how much he loves jo and how he feels disgusted with rukku..thk god jalal once again was about fall in her trap hakima saved him saying rukku is just having fever...again jalal is back to his rage mode..jalal is finding every oppurtunity to get hussain back to jodha.. he wanted to see his jo happy..Radhika lets not worry about rukku ...coz from now hussain il be with jo till next one week..by then zeenat il succeed in giving poison and kid ill die in jodha's arms...rukku il blame jo ..but before that some how zeenat il get caught and thus rukku too il get caught and all il no her truth..then jalal il sideline her forver..if not zeenat il get caught and jalal il use reverse farmaan saying coz of rukku and her zid hassan passed away and risked hussain's life too...so kid il be back to jo..and then rukku il do something and gets caught and punished...in this process hussain too il die.. i just loved jalal today...he was more worried about jodha and her happiness..he wanted to see jo happy at any cost...Radhika jo has such a big heart..others il encash her innocence and goodness and uses it in a wrong way..like how rukku used her..she is insulting jo and not only that jodha's family dadisa and dad...cheap and disgusting women..any how atleast for some time kid il be with jo and away from rukku..hussain il be with his real family...real parents.. and beore hussain follows his brother atleast he il have some time to spend with his mother and dad... i am happy now..and can watch d episodes..coz hussain is back to jodha and rukku's downfall started... wen she il no that zeenat was the one behind this then she il realise how foolish she was..she digged her own grave very deeply... in this process she not only lost jalal but hb gulbadan and her biggest supporter jodha..wen she il get to no she took her kid for muz audha..no one il be thr...she il be left all alone..

Originally posted by: Gem12

Thanks Radhika...after reading maddy's and abhay's post .. i was @ peace and watched the episode ...after long time epi was good..today jalal was good this shows how much he loves jo and how he feels disgusted with rukku..thk god jalal once again was about fall in her trap hakima saved him saying rukku is just having fever...again jalal is back to his rage mode..jalal is finding every oppurtunity to get hussain back to jodha.. he wanted to see his jo happy..Radhika lets not worry about rukku ...coz from now hussain il be with jo till next one week..by then zeenat il succeed in giving poison and kid ill die in jodha's arms...rukku il blame jo ..but before that some how zeenat il get caught and thus rukku too il get caught and all il no her truth..then jalal il sideline her forver..if not zeenat il get caught and jalal il use reverse farmaan saying coz of rukku and her zid hassan passed away and risked hussain's life too...so kid il be back to jo..and then rukku il do something and gets caught and punished...in this process hussain too il die.. i just loved jalal today...he was more worried about jodha and her happiness..he wanted to see jo happy at any cost...Radhika jo has such a big heart..others il encash her innocence and goodness and uses it in a wrong way..like how rukku used her..she is insulting jo and not only that jodha's family dadisa and dad...cheap and disgusting women..any how atleast for some time kid il be with jo and away from rukku..hussain il be with his real family...real parents.. and beore hussain follows his brother atleast he il have some time to spend with his mother and dad... i am happy now..and can watch d episodes..coz hussain is back to jodha and rukku's downfall started... wen she il no that zeenat was the one behind this then she il realise how foolish she was..she digged her own grave very deeply... in this process she not only lost jalal but hb gulbadan and her biggest supporter jodha..wen she il get to no she took her kid for muz audha..no one il be thr...she il be left all alone..

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

GM :) Happy Karva Chauth to those who are celebrating this festival today :)

Posting from mobile. So Making a common post.

Charu, wonderfully written and incredible to see the shift to positivity in you regarding present track. :)

Abhay and you have made similar pitch for not believing in spoilers. I also don't believe in them and unless someone posts it here or PMs me, I don't even read them.

But its always best to look at a situation from all sides. The CVs are strange people. They take pleasure in shocking and disgusting us. If they have their way, they can show a temporary rift between JJ the way they showed in Atifa track.

It may be possible that after Hussein dies, Jalal is shown to grow distant from Jodha and tell Ruq she was right about Jo being a careless woman and causing the deaths of the twins. He may start being closer with ruq and cold and distant with Jo. Jo may be hurt but keep quiet.

At the end of the track, we may learn this was Jalal's way to expose Ruq and catch Zeenat. JJ get together again.

Pls share your views about this scenario. :)

Magnificent Jalal! True, he was that. But in 2 instances, I felt he failed. When ruq insulted bharmal and dadisa. When ruq insulted jodha by taking the baby from her.

It is fine he showed his displeasure to Ruq later. But in public, he should have been firm abt ruq showing respect to dadisa, bharmal and jodha. I know some men prefer to avoid making a scene in public and speak to their wives in private, if they don't like something abt their behavior. But the people insulted here are royalty and hussein's blood relations. Jalal has to uphold their respect and his by being firm in public.

When ruq shouted at jalal for bringingg hussein outside and snatched Hussein from Jodha, many servants were watching, including Zeenat, who is not better than a maid. What will they think ofa JJ when they see Ruq humiliating them publicly?

Jalal has to move to next stage now and uphold Jo's rights and respect publicly.



I don't expect Salima or Rahim to play any part here. They are just well-dressed spectators to the JJR show.

Originally posted by: prav2

Hi Radhika,
Thanks for the post and also warning us to be prepared even for the worst.
For me there was two that stood out on yesterdays episode
1.Jalal from his state of numbness after the loss of children moved to extreme guiltiness before daisa and barmal had now seem to be wanting to address the reason for the guilt that's when we saw that beautiful scene a bonding of a father and a son and the most touching scene the warmth of a child that brought back the smile on a mothers face.Here when ruq comes,we see the first form of assertiveness "yes i brought my child to play" and then the obvious disgust on her. when she plucked the child from jo which lead to his anger towards her.Yes it could have been better if he had openly supported jo but I think the problem is he feels he is binded by the farman yet want to find a way to bring the child back though there could be another reason as he is aware of all ruqs tantrum and may be wanting some peace for hussain .I think their equation is also forever changed yesterday though he called for hakim on humanitarian basis ,i didn't see any overt concern in his face all he was thinking was of a way to take the child back to jo . I think we are not far off the days when we will witness an open contempt on her and would treat her like as if she didn't exist.
2. Jo finally from her denial seemed to have moved on to acceptance of hasan's death by holding the other precious life in her hand. For me Pari stood out all the way in her deriving strength from holding on to hussain and when ruq came her longing to hold on to the child a little more and finally by stopping her from reaching out to the child remembers a pain of a mother . I accept with her reasoning we wouldn't even wish our worst enemy to go through the pain of a loss of child and she stood true to her character by not asking for the child,
We haven't seen Todarmal or Birbal for sometime as its understandable as the last episodes were more of parent coping with the loss of a child.But i think going forward will be more on action front and i guess the beginning of it is the jalal's injury.May be now we'll get to see one of them as already there is a doubt abt the fire and now with this injury suspicions may start.
I guess that injury is more likely caused by quasim,zeenat duo in an attempt to get jo out. But may be here salima or zakira may get a role to play as they may get suspicious on her as seeing the burnt finger should have some significance right?.It looked similar to that on nigars hand .
But i agree with you radhika that no theory yet could be discarded out rightly as the track is still so open ended and anything could happen.
But i wish this doesn't goes like atifa .Personally i never liked that te way of solving that pbm.What if she had commited sucide on that day?.So i think its so extreme and couldn't appreciate it.But in this track i still believe there will be no mu as the only silver lining in this already draining track is the love and support of jalal and if it misses even temporarily then that episodes will become completely unbearable to watch.I still hold on to swap theory .

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

GM :) Happy Karva Chauth to those who are celebrating this festival today :)

Posting from mobile. So Making a common post.

Charu, wonderfully written and incredible to see the shift to positivity in you regarding present track. :)

Abhay and you have made similar pitch for not believing in spoilers. I also don't believe in them and unless someone posts it here or PMs me, I don't even read them.

But its always best to look at a situation from all sides. The CVs are strange people. They take pleasure in shocking and disgusting us. If they have their way, they can show a temporary rift between JJ the way they showed in Atifa track.

It may be possible that after Hussein dies, Jalal is shown to grow distant from Jodha and tell Ruq she was right about Jo being a careless woman and causing the deaths of the twins. He may start being closer with ruq and cold and distant with Jo. Jo may be hurt but keep quiet.

At the end of the track, we may learn this was Jalal's way to expose Ruq and catch Zeenat. JJ get together again.

Pls share your views about this scenario. :)

Magnificent Jalal! True, he was that. But in 2 instances, I felt he failed. When ruq insulted bharmal and dadisa. When ruq insulted jodha by taking the baby from her.

It is fine he showed his displeasure to Ruq later. But in public, he should have been firm abt ruq showing respect to dadisa, bharmal and jodha. I know some men prefer to avoid making a scene in public and speak to their wives in private, if they don't like something abt their behavior. But the people insulted here are royalty and hussein's blood relations. Jalal has to uphold their respect and his by being firm in public.

When ruq shouted at jalal for bringingg hussein outside and snatched Hussein from Jodha, many servants were watching, including Zeenat, who is not better than a maid. What will they think ofa JJ when they see Ruq humiliating them publicly?

Jalal has to move to next stage now and uphold Jo's rights and respect publicly.



I don't expect Salima or Rahim to play any part here. They are just well-dressed spectators to the JJR show.

Originally posted by: lasyap3

I just loved your post Priya...

Thanks Lasya

Jalal was Splendid yesterday...KI just liked his possessiveness as a Father and a Shehenshah...

He somehow is trying hard to help Jodha recover and thus he is making attempts of bringing Hussein to her so that she finds some solace...

Rajat yesterday was exceptional as a father.I always like his scenes with kids . He brings out such emotions which is heart warming to watch.

I am not trusting these spoilers because nothing can be said as of now...we need to just JWW...

Ya me too the only one i trust is tatasky/airtel but it hasn't changed yet so we got to wait and watch

Regarding Jalal's injury ----- It is totally out of my scope...Anything can be shown here , as you stated one possibility is that Qasim...but he will not take any risk because Zeenat has not yet completed her task...If he hurts Jalal directly or indirectly...he might be in shak ka daayira...so he may not take risk...

What about Shariff??? Or Jalal might have met with some small accident and got hurt??Nothing can be expected right now...

Yes i also thought of sharif and they haven't shown him for so long,yet if its sharif how does zeenat comes to jo correctly thats y i thought it could be Quasim/zeenat plan to divert jo.

Jodha's sixth sense is again indicating the same thing...But we know that nothing is going to help as we know that the twins are destined to die...😭

That's the saddest part. Even yesterday when i was watching that kids cute smile i felt so sad we would miss him so soon.

There is no possibility of swap theory...

I know i'm the only one still believing it.But the reason is for jalal to cut all chords with ruq she has to do something legally very wrong or else we could get to see like yesterday ,even after all the disgust he was also feeling guilty for scolding her .. this will never change until he comes out of the guilt that he has somehow let down ruq. and as far now i couldn't find anyother way for her to be implicated and also would they change such a well recorded fact?.Then there is the another reason.But it is the stupidest of all, yet i follow that .In every track like mirchi,todarmal i use to believe he has a plan and this keep me positive and enables me to see those tracks peacefully when the cvs prove me wrong it would already be too late and next track will start .so i finish a track with little disappointment rather than the continuous frustration.😆