JA Oct 7 2014 | Elegy for Hasan, Oct10 Abhay Updt P18, Call to Zee P24 - Page 16

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81


Thanks Abhay for your lovely views.
I have faith in Jalal like I had faith in him during Aatifa track that he was acting .But when it comes to Ruku,I don't have any faith in him.He has always been generous with Ruku.Like today when he was shouting at her ,it was ok but for a person like Ruku it should be more strenuous..And that dialogue later on ,that she must have fallen ill because I scolded her ,was so pathetic.
I am so sorry for venting.


exactly when its matter of ruq its tough to believe on jalal. Ruq's guilts haven't been started newly. She did guilts using murti against jo but ja kept it hidden before everyone then ruq's implication with maham in sujamal track against jodha this also he ignored by playing chess with ruq(if maham could have been punished for it why could haven't been ruq for same reason) in next morning then in fp track here ja became furious on ruq but it was b/c she did treachery with him not b/c she used jo as her servent as a result ruq even got jaan begum's title. Now for the 1st time in private ja opposited ruq slowly b/c the fact is jalal has compelled to say against ruq seeing jo's biggest heart that can't b possible to compare with anything. But is it enough to keep faith on jalal that next day he won't become silent again when ruq wl reprimand jo openly!
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Posted: 10 years ago
Thanks to all for letting me know your views about my doubt...
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Posted: 10 years ago

Hi Folks ,

I am sharing my thoughts on today's episode that I've also posted on Maddy's thread .

There are two aspects that I loved about today's happenings.
1) Loved it when Jalal confidently told Jodha that he knows her better than she knows herself and that Rukaiyya's attitude and behavior towards her are wrong .

2) Doubly loved it when he pointed out to Rukaiya that she couldn't have stooped any lower by forbidding Jodha, to interact with Hussein . He very firmly and clearly reminded her that Jodha is Hussein's biological mother, not her .

Jodha's happiness is of prime importance to Jalal . This was evident in the manner in which he walks with baby Hussein in his arms, straight to his mother . Seeing Jodha bonding with Hussein , makes Jalal happy . It was a beautiful family moment that was cut short by Rukaiya's 😡 voice authoritatively yelling out Shehenshsh's name and questioning him if he was the one who brought Hussein to Jodha . Jalal's immediate 'yes' with an angry , disgusted look , indicates the beginning of a war of words between him and Rukaiyya that is going to culminate with her exposure and exit from his inner family circle.

Jalal is extremely angry with Rukaiya for being ungrateful to Jodha , and forgetting the sacrifice that she has made by giving Hussein to her. His anger knew no bounds when she attributed Jodha's negligence as the reason for Hassan's death , he actually proceeded to slap her for saying so .

I hated the way he bent down and reasoned with her to give Hussein to Jodha , just for a little while , in order to help her get over Hassan's loss . He considers Rukaiyya a friend but she has no humanitarian feelings left in her . If she truly loved Hussein ( as she claims to ) she would willingly allow him to bond with his mother . If she truly loved Jalal, she would never give him a reason to plead with her. If she truly loved Jalal , she would never hurt and anger him by disrespecting and and disregarding his request .

Rukaiyya needs to learn the meaning of magnanimity , sacrifice and love from Jodha . It angers me to think that in spite of her own grief , Jodha does not want to cause Rukaiyya pain by taking Hussein away from her . Love grows by sharing . Jodha has shared a very precious part of her and Jalal's creation with Rukaiya, this gesture of hers has increased Jalal's love for her . On the other hand Rukaiyya has accepted Jodha's precious gift of her child to her but is selfishly unwilling to even momentarily share the gift that she has received, with the very same Jodha , thereby invoking disgust and anger in Jalal . Rukaiyya herself is fully responsible in pushing Jalal closer to Jodha . Jalal's disgust towards her selfishness was visible today .

Rukaiyya's possessiveness towards the baby will not let her allow Jodha to take care of Hussein even when she is unwell. She has been clearly told by the hakima sahiba that she cannot handle him, until she feels better . Jalal quickly jumps at the opportunity , takes matters into his hands, picks up Hussein and proceeds to give him to Jodha to be taken care of , while Rukaiyya is uncomfortably watching him walk away . Hats off to Jalal . Loved his firmness today .

I do not believe in any spoilers , precaps or articles and get misled by them . They are shown with the intention of confusing, irritating , upsetting and misleading the viewers . I also do not believe a word that the Zee guys tell us . They only speak what we WANT TO HEAR .

Jalal loves Jodha too much and will not accuse her of neglecting Hussein . We heard him cooing to the infant today and telling him that he is very lucky to have a mother like Jodha , even though it is Rukaiyya who is raising him . It is obvious that he does not consider Rukaiyya as Hussein's mother . Therefore, I am positive that he will always stand by Jodha through thick and thin. If at all there is a misunderstanding between them , as indicated by the spoilers , it will only facilitate in BRINGING JALAL AND JODHA CLOSER .

I WILL THINK POSITIVELY AND HOPE THAT JALAL AND JODHA HAVE THE STRENGTH TO BEAR ANOTHER MAJOR LOSS . I DO NOT FORSEE A RIFT BETWEEN THEM .

THEIR GRIEF WILL BE A SHARED ONE AND THIS ASPECT WILL TEACH THEM NEVER TO LET GO OF THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER . THEIR SHARED GRIEF WILL HELP THEM HEAL FASTER. IT WILL LEAD TO THEIR PERSONAL GROWTH . THEIR TRAVEL THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT JOURNEY WILL TRANSFORM THEM INTO STRONG AND COURAGEOUS BEINGS .


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Oct 10

So, Jalal is already simmering. And, he gave it back to Ruqaiyya.
Faltu mein all were going after Jalal. He very much understands Jodha.
Actually, he is restraining himself. 😉

I am not able to get Ruqs logic. She can give the Kid to Khwaja Shera and Zeenat but not to Jodha.
Also, we were right in thinking that Ruqs has been drugged.
Now, Kid goes to Jodha, and Zeenat is here also...


Precap:
Hussain with Jodha, Jodha comes to know Jalal has been hurt badly in head. She is about to leave to go to Jalal, but stops. Zeenat is present in Jodha's Hojra as well.

Note:
Will Ruqs again blame Jodha.?. That is obvious. One thing which is clear is that, Salima Begum also saw Zeenat's burnt finger. That is for a specific reason. We know anyways, Jalal is present with her. And Zeenat would be caught. We all know that Hussain won't survive, so let us NOT spoil the weekend thinking what will happen to Jodha. Enjoy your coming festival. Best Wishes. 😊


Thank you Abhay for your update . Aaj ke episode ko dekhne ke baad sirf ek Baat yaad aayi billi ke bhaag se cheeka foota .
Zeenat gave medicine to make Ruq ill n Jalal did waste a minute to take hussain to jo 👏


Abhay Salima begum is sharp in observing fishy things but poor in immediate reaction like Ruq fp she was the first one to say Ruq n Jo help kuch gad bad hai then did nothing .this time too she won't do anything I think rahim will find that poisoned finger while playing n will show it someone
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Posted: 10 years ago
Great write-up Radhika and Abhay. Ruqaiya is really solipsistic.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi Radhika, Busy today, ( friday Episode )

Thank God, child Got sometime Mother, Lap,👏, Child was looking cute😃,

Liked Jalal, how tackling, Jodha, trying Jodha energy, Now diverted, or she will feel relax.

Liked, Jodha words, Hussain is cute, But Abba is going now Old,😆,


Little Cool movements were, Goodi Goodi, between Akdha, +child

But, Ruk habit see Majboor, Spoiled Movements.😡,


Ruk suddenely decided, Now Hussain will live all time with, Her..

But Jalal today Totally realeased his frustation, Which is, Disturbing, Him past Many days, Accepts Ruk encourged Jalal, but Is stoping Female this Way, (Man Raise his hand ), Why CV choosed this Way. Same Jalal did to Jodha. Both ways are wrong But yesterday secene was different..

He said all words, Which Ruk deserves, She needed that Dose, But Ruk no Use, she will forget All.


liked Jalal strong attitude, He picked Hussain, & Now hussain is With Jodha.


But Precap, Lets see.

Jodha is again, Good, She knows, Ruk will feel pain so child should not snatch, Its Big difference, Jalal Two begums.

These days Jodha is Ocean hearted 😃 See Sea depth, & Sea, everytime feels New,

Sea has no boundary, So jodha goodness have No boundary, Its too much increased,

Now day by day more increasing, or its a Jodha Grace.,I not think, Acc to New spoiler, Now Jalal will blame Jodha, for Hussain, Or jodha will go to Amer.
What do you think?

But liked, Jalal not gave Ruk words importance,When Ruk said Jodha is responsibile for
Hassan death.

So Realtionship is changing, Understanding is coming, Akdha More.After Hussain death it should be Maintain Ameen

Liked Jalal first shared with Talks with Jodha & then went ruk Hozara

Is salima watching, Zeenat, Will clear some coming tracks, Bhanda phod of Zeenat


But Hussain should save, Near Jodha, Now, Unless Ruk will again Say, Jodha is responsibile, or Jodha health, will go More down,.or Is Jalal now already doubted, Zeenath, & Precap, is Jalal Plan to capture, Zeenat.

But one ques coming in mind, Jalal picked child, is he doubting Zeenath, or Now he is again come from us Teda way.

But hussain will not survive, then see what happens.

Is Zeenat +Ruk, is Joined, When Ruk drank sharbat, she was chocking, Because Ruk knows jalal will sure come to her, for Hussain, but Ruk plan floped.

Is Ruk will use that sharbat for Jodha proving, Wrong Mother, but Own exposured.

Because Zeenat will also then speak, Ruk name, so both Exposure, track.?


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Posted: 10 years ago
GM :) Happy Karva Chauth to those who are celebrating this festival today :)

Posting from mobile. So Making a common post.

Charu, wonderfully written and incredible to see the shift to positivity in you regarding present track. :)

Abhay and you have made similar pitch for not believing in spoilers. I also don't believe in them and unless someone posts it here or PMs me, I don't even read them.

But its always best to look at a situation from all sides. The CVs are strange people. They take pleasure in shocking and disgusting us. If they have their way, they can show a temporary rift between JJ the way they showed in Atifa track.

It may be possible that after Hussein dies, Jalal is shown to grow distant from Jodha and tell Ruq she was right about Jo being a careless woman and causing the deaths of the twins. He may start being closer with ruq and cold and distant with Jo. Jo may be hurt but keep quiet.

At the end of the track, we may learn this was Jalal's way to expose Ruq and catch Zeenat. JJ get together again.

Pls share your views about this scenario. :)

Magnificent Jalal! True, he was that. But in 2 instances, I felt he failed. When ruq insulted bharmal and dadisa. When ruq insulted jodha by taking the baby from her.

It is fine he showed his displeasure to Ruq later. But in public, he should have been firm abt ruq showing respect to dadisa, bharmal and jodha. I know some men prefer to avoid making a scene in public and speak to their wives in private, if they don't like something abt their behavior. But the people insulted here are royalty and hussein's blood relations. Jalal has to uphold their respect and his by being firm in public.

When ruq shouted at jalal for bringingg hussein outside and snatched Hussein from Jodha, many servants were watching, including Zeenat, who is not better than a maid. What will they think ofa JJ when they see Ruq humiliating them publicly?

Jalal has to move to next stage now and uphold Jo's rights and respect publicly.



I don't expect Salima or Rahim to play any part here. They are just well-dressed spectators to the JJR show.


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Purani,

Well written! 👏 Thanks for sharing such deep thoughts with us. 😊

I find the whole show emotionally draining...it happens Purani that some things trigger our hidden memories and bring them to the fore. But it needn't be hurtful or bad. It can be a good thing too. If you can face those memories and accept them thankfully for having taught you important life lessons, you will be able to get rid of the fears associated with these memories. 😊



Thank you akka

The memories are not bad but very beautiful. And I dont fear. I just miss him immensely.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: prav2


Hi Manu,

Sorry to come in. But I'm deeply moved by your post . The way you have putforth the purpose of life could make a nonbeliever into a believer . Loved your entire post and lines in bold are exceptional.I don't know if it is a coincidence or what but these last two days whenever i thought of penning down some thought especially here i see a reflection of it done before ,but even if i have tried i wouldn't have been able to put it as elegantly as you have done and i applaud you for that👏
i don't know if i believe in cycles of life but yes i do believe in phases of soul and like you put
life is a continuous battle within oneself to attain a state of nirvana where you realize you could never truly own anything but our deeds may leave a mark which makes us immortal in the hearts of others and for me i see it as jalal and jo are in these final phases before attaining the enlightenment.Thanks once again for this beautiful post.


Thank you and you dont have to apologize😳

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Hi Pia,

Not natural, as far as i know. I will send you the link of my LONG DETAILED postS i made in this regard (they are not my normal IF posts, they are NEW postS). Check your inbox in some time. 😊

abhay i have already seen it...the post is awsome..thankyou.

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