Jalal's thin veneer of anger against Maham seems ready to crumble! - Page 6

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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Hi mansi. Amazing analysis of maham and jalal's emotions. You have said it all. There is nothing more to be said. Jalal is definitely hurting and it is evident from the precap. But I think that after this reverse psychology by jodha, he might admit his feelings for maham and then jodha might tell him about her last wish. But he may disagree. I have a feeling that he himself might ask jodha what maham said in jail and then jodha will start using the reverse psychology. By the way, I did read about the rukaiya article. Her plan is to jodha as a bad mother, but mansi, do you think that jalal will believe that jodha is careless when it comes to kids, he has seen how she takes care of rahim and even bakshi's kid. I think like every half baked plan of hers, in this plan too she will goof up and end up showing herself as irresponsible and jalal will take away her kid and give it to jodha. Then at that time we may not get a punishment. But when she looses both kids then she might try to kill jodha to get both the kids back. And that is where I feel that jalal will break ties with her. But seriously mansi, I just want her humiliated and exposed. I just can't see her treating jodha as a surrogate mother. I think mansi, jodha is already pissed with rukaiya. Also there was a tweet that jodha will come to know of rukaiya's intension? So I'm just hoping that there will be no MU. Also, after Maham's glorifying of jodha on her death bed, everyone will be full of praise for jodha for reconciling maham and jalal. Even jalal will be at peace that he got to sort out matters with maham and his mind will be at peace and he will be greatful to jodha for understanding him so well. In this scenario, if they show an MU that too cause of rukaiya, trp will speak. In fact in the process of dangering jodha's kid, she may create suspicion in jalal's mind that someone has deliberately done this. So then jalal might get to the bottom of this plan of ruks. I just can't tolerate ruks on my screen. If she is not harshly punished this time, I don't know what will escape my tongue!! Mansi, the thing is that zee tweeted that the kids are to come. Means ruks will actually get the younger kid? As per history, the second kid died first. So they might show it due to ruks negligence and then she might try to kill jodha like I said earlier and then jalal will punish her. But this theory of mine does not encorporate jalal's reverse Farman, so I don't know how true it will be. I'm tired of this woman and her track better be wound up by September cause I will not be able to bear her beyond that. Did you notice mansi, that bakshi is ok with jodha whenever she thinks that her husband likes her? I think sharrif's temporary acting of loving here child and respecting her is making her feel that he has got over jodha. Well she is in for a huge shock cause I suspect link maddy, that he is drugging the child. Cause the child was not born deaf as she fell asleep listening to jodha's Lori. I agree with maddy. Jodha should get moti married and send her away. zakira can take her place. She is hopeless and has no manners like the old moti. I cannot tolerate one of the kids near rukaiya. Anyways they are going to die. I just want ruks out. Will wait for sharrif exposure, but this rukaiya is getting on my nerves.😡

You have given some excellent arguments why there will be no MU between Jodha and Jalal. I am going to hang onto this hope! I just don't want any MU and as you say the TRPs will speak if the CVs try that sort of divide between Jodha and Jalal at a time when we are all asking for more closeness and more romance!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: tamy267

wonderfully written Mansi.👍🏼

As far as I could understand Jalal, he is indeed running away from himself..he is not stopping Jodha doing anything for Maham..that tells me deep down he too wants Jodha to take care of Maham in her last days..but this is a one part of Jalal who loves his Badi Ammi...another part of him tells Maham is an evil and she can harm Jodha to make her baddua real...sending Maham to Delhi has two reasons...one what Diksha said that he cant see her dying before his eyes and other one he cant trust Maham given her hatred for Jodha.

Jalal is torn between his dual selves..he is avoiding all sorts of conversations that lead to Maham...that very name makes him upset..if u noticed, he doesnt meet eye while talking about Maham...he feels uncomfortable..I feel terrible for Jalal...in Tuesday's episode when Ruqaiyya was whipping Resham and Jodha was explaining Maham's condition just look at Jalal's face...he was feeling pathetic but trying to act strong..and left the place instantly so that no one can see his pain not due to anger what Ruqaiyya thought.

Jodha knows Jalal inside and out...and she is the only one seeing through the pain Jalal is undergoing..she knows Jalal no matter what says and does, deep down his feelings for Maham r still the same...hence she was applying reverse psychology on him (precap) to make him react and meet Maham before she dies...it will not only make a dying Maham happy but also will lighten the burden of pain Jalal is carrying in his heart...Jalal-Maham meeting will help Jalal releasing his pent up pain..he will feel lighter.

Maham hates Jodha but she is melting...the praises she is hearing about her melting her hatred but she is holding onto a pseudo anger for her coz she has to prove Mughal Wazir-e-Aliya Maham Anga can never love Rajvanshi Shehzadi Jodha.
I just hope she takes back the curse before dying.

Yesterday what I loved most was Jodha taking permission from Jalal to meet Maham...had it been old Jodha she would have met Maham secretly by going against Jalal's order..but this new Jodha doesnt want to go against her Shehenshah but taking his permission...loved it..simply loved it.❤️❤️

Ruqaiyya the less said the better...like u I dont want to spoil my post talking about her..just want Jodha soon realizes her wrong decision.

Tamy, you're right, both Jalal and Maham are both hanging onto anger as a way to not show their own dichotomies! I saw iit in Jalal, but you have opened my eyes to the fact that even Maham at this late stage is hanging onto that hatred of Rajvanshis more from ego than anything else right now! I suppose that's why it becomes easy for Maham and Jalal to patch up before she dies, because both will realise that hatred to be weaker than love, and Maham especially will be thankful to Jodha for making Jalal and her see that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: MaddyO

WE don't even want to discuss about Ruk,
we can't bear to see her so much on screen,
we don't want to see her hover around Jodha and Jalal,
we do NOT want to see Ruk lay a hand on innocent baby

and

we WANT TO SEE RUK HUMILIATED, PUNISHED and RIDICULED and even her fake pregnancy truth to come out IN DEK.

Hope even if what we want does not matter to zee and CVs - the TRPs do!

Maddy,do you think the Creatives have learnt ANY lessons from the previously disastrous TRPs or are they going to shove Ruq in our faces on a daily basis for the next two months?????😲😲😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti

Will I ever get to see ruq bhandaphod

Preet it all depends on coconut breaking, I think?😲😲😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

hi guys, Sorry but I think with this outrageous behavior of Ruqu, she may blurt out something bad to Maham as Jodha keeps marching to & pro to Maham's prison cell and without forethought she may blame Maham about how she back stabbed Jalal and Jodha and now she is enjoying their favour etc which may infuriate & instigate Maham and in that fit of mind she may disclose some of Ruqu's misdeeds.(may be some which even we viewers are unaware of) before she succumb to death. Since both Jodha and Jalal will be mourning for the loss of such a great lady (Even though she had done some damage to them, she were a strong pillar for Jalal during his childhood and young age when he climbed the throne) and may not dig the details or make a hue and cry about Ruqu at that moment. But later when Jalal recovers from his sorrow, he will take her for a task which will leave her in her own sphere where no one will enter. She may be banned for certain perimeters from Jodha's presence.

But I know for sure that with every passing comment Ruqu is digging her own grave deep. It is just a matter of time for Jalal to pounce on her wits and make her spill the beans on her own and accept her crimes. Her vision is like horse tied to the chariot which doesn't (can't) see the sides of the track but only can ahead of it. So Ruqu is only thinking what is her aim but is failed to notice that she has been under vigilance and has left too many evidence during her race to the MUZ post.

Yes indeed Jaya, if Maham spills the beans on Ruq it will be perfect (and also tie in with the Zee man's prophecy of at least last four months!) But is there time for Ruq to antagonise Maham and for Ruq to be betrayed by Maham... because maham is already sort of half-dead!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Actually Prav, there are two ways to look at the ones we love ... sometimes you can say we can never really hate them. But sometimes the people we most hate are the ones we most used to love ... we feel their betrayal more sharply and that love changes to deep hatred for the deeper sense of betrayal! So its not as easy as that.

Yes, we can hate someone whom we love or loved the most. Unless they were important to us, there seems to be no point in hatred. The more the hatred, the strong would have been the love. Yes, however hard we may try to hate someone for the pain they gave us , in the end when we realize they may not be there tomorrow for us to hate, it will hit like a strong blow and that is when we retreat and feel that hatred is too strong an emotion which should not be brought up between the two loved ones. That's when we think of reconciling but in many a cases, by the time we realize, we would have lost the bus. So Jodha is trying to bring in that sense of reality to Jalal so that he should not lament later for not meeting his Badi Ammi once before she passed away to the eternal world.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy,do you think the Creatives have learnt ANY lessons from the previously disastrous TRPs or are they going to shove Ruq in our faces on a daily basis for the next two months?????



I earnestly hope they have! JA is at No.2 this week. Last week we had Ruk overdose, still it ended with Jalal taking the farman from Ruk. So viewers got idea that Jalal will not let Ruk mess around.

If we get episodes like Tuesday's JA will always remain No.1.

We want to see JodhaJalal WIN not vamps and villains! I hope next week we get to No.1.

I hope Ruk doesn't get to hover around JJ and spoil our viewing pleasure.

Too much Ruk is 😡😡😡🤬

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi pleasure reading your analysis.. Yesterday's episode revolved around MA's final stage of appearance.. Many good Mansi pleasure reading your analysis.. Yesterday's episode revolved around MA's final stage of appearance.. Many good things happened in yesterday episode.. Firstly It's painful to watch Maham in such state.. I must applaud Ashwiniji for doing a awesome job.. She is simply outstanding and her makeup speaks a lot along with her character.. I could see helpless JO when Resham pleaded regards MA.. Its good JO taken this issue discussing with HB which looks apt for the current situation..She stated the real rational facts on MA were she was considered as his master, foster mother who had brought up and protected from many clashes.. I loved when she gave a blasting answers to Rukku.. HB and MA scene looks emotional.. A woman who always straight healed personality, never bended her mistakes, who always a miscalculation on Jo seems to be completely melted by Jo. Infact her vengeance speech on her looks fake.. Its good that HB clarified talk on Javeda FP news with Jo.. As a perfect mother she too could understood the circumstance in comforting Jo why she moved out for drastic lie to MA.. Coming to Jalal,MA and Jodha, it was beautifully encircled by cv's regarding three status of relationshipstatus based on emotional bonding and affection which comes out externally with the help of Jodha.. I loved it how Jodha once again played as a perfect catalyser in mending relations but not to break the beautiful bindings.. Because Jalal who couldn't come out openly in MA case, as I felt were everyone stated the reason why Jalal doesn't object or restrict in meeting MA by Jo.. He was deeply struggling with his inner emotions where he was finding a place to pour it out but as a perfect soul mate Jodha could read his hubby's invisible pain spreads all over his face.. Jalal knew it's only Jo can make things better and easier eventhough it's a tough phase.. What could be his best price when his wife trying out to clear his painful burden loaded over his body, what could be the best thing when his wife had a sensing ability in signalling his innermost sufferings hailing all around his nerves.. Though she was his foster mother, days and years were he passed with her can't be erased so easily it was there its still there.. Request made by MA to Jo in meeting Jalal and calling her badiammi was his most emotional moment.. In precap Jo trying her technical play in emerging Jalal's emotions for MA.. I am loving Resham acting.. What would be the best score amon relationship when your invisible pain traced out b. your soul mate.. This track brings us a enriched, sensing eachother difficulties was done beautifully.. It's good Jo seeking permission from Jalal to meet MA.. For Rukaiya no words definitely she will create a tension between JJ.. Only I'm counting my days for her exposure.. happened in yesterday episode.. Firstly It's painful to watch Maham in such state.. I must applaud Ashwiniji for doing a awesome job.. She is simply outstanding and her makeup speaks a lot along with her character.. I could see helpless JO when Resham pleaded regards MA.. Its good JO taken this issue discussing with HB which looks apt for the current situation..She stated the real rational facts on MA were she was considered as his master, foster mother who had brought up and protected from many clashes.. I loved when she gave a blasting answers to Rukku.. HB and MA scene looks emotional.. A woman who always straight healed personality, never bended her mistakes, who always a miscalculation on Jo seems to be completely melted by Jo. Infact her vengeance speech on her looks fake.. Its good that HB clarified talk on Javeda FP news with Jo.. As a perfect mother she too could understood the circumstance in comforting Jo why she moved out for drastic lie to MA.. Coming to Jalal,MA and Jodha, it was beautifully encircled by cv's regarding three status of relationshipstatus based on emotional bonding and affection which comes out externally with the help of Jodha.. I loved it how Jodha once again played as a perfect catalyser in mending relations but not to break the beautiful bindings.. Because Jalal who couldn't come out openly in MA case, as I felt were everyone stated the reason why Jalal doesn't object or restrict in meeting MA by Jo.. He was deeply struggling with his inner emotions where he was finding a place to pour it out but as a perfect soul mate Jodha could read his hubby's invisible pain spreads all over his face.. Jalal knew it's only Jo can make things better and easier eventhough it's a tough phase.. What could be his best price when his wife trying out to clear his painful burden loaded over his body, what could be the best thing when his wife had a sensing ability in signalling his innermost sufferings hailing all around his nerves.. Though she was his foster mother, days and years were he passed with her can't be erased so easily it was there its still there.. Request made by MA to Jo in meeting Jalal and calling her badiammi was his most emotional moment.. In precap Jo trying her technical play in emerging Jalal's emotions for MA.. I am loving Resham acting.. What would be the best score amon relationship when your invisible pain traced out b. your soul mate.. This track brings us a enriched, sensing eachother difficulties was done beautifully.. It's good Jo seeking permission from Jalal to meet MA.. For Rukaiya no words definitely she will create a tension between JJ.. Only I'm counting my days for her exposure..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes indeed Jaya, if Maham spills the beans on Ruq it will be perfect (and also tie in with the Zee man's prophecy of at least last four months!) But is there time for Ruq to antagonise Maham and for Ruq to be betrayed by Maham... because maham is already sort of half-dead!

Yes, this is the perfect timing for Maham to spill the beans as "as per the precap, Ruqu will try to stall Jodha from visiting Maham as we know Jodha will not pay an heed to her restraints which will infuriate Ruqu. So she may march in to Maham (may be after Jodha leaves to meet Jalal) and screech at her and Maham may give some back lashes to her which may be heard by Jalal as he may come there to pay his last visit to Maham.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12


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Preet it all depends on coconut breaking, I think?😲😲😲


mansi hmmm
we need to do that asap chalo I cant bear her nautanki smirk 😭

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