Jalal's thin veneer of anger against Maham seems ready to crumble! - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---jais---


love your post Maddy specially moti part.



Thanks Pooja 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Yes to read your post Mansi but this is a venting post I had made on Pals thread yesterday night after the episode.

Of course Jaan Begum is the most pampered character in JA! CVs favorite after MA of course! 😕😡
Ruk seems to think she can order Jodha around. 😡😡😡

Now that we got Teda Jalal back PLEASE CVs bring back Fiery Jodha for Ruk - pleaseee!!!!!!


Still the totally un-royal servants are no less!

Today when MA was bad mouthing Jodha to Resham - the elderly Hakim Sahiba was nodding her head in approval! 😕

Resham comes begging to Jodha for help but does not say a word in defense of all of Jodha's concern for MA to her!

Moti - now SHE thinks she should be the MEB Malika-E-Bandis or something! She does not bother to bend her back for pranam EVER! Barely bends her head and folds her hand for pranam if in mood.
Moti thinks it is depending on HER moods if Jalal and Jodha should spend time together!!!

Atleast HO is loyal to Ruk and Resham to MA. At first sight of trouble Moti runs away leaving Jodha! When Khyber went into haram to kidnap Jodha - Moti ran away leaving Jodha! When Jodha went out at night in totally upset low mental state at night - Moti just let her!

Of course since HER agenda seems to be to hang around when Jalal comes, otherwise do nothing for Jodha!

What are the tightened security around Jodha's hojara Khwaja Sheras are doing where Resham directly rushed inside pushing Moti aside?!

When Jalal was ordering soldiers to check all around jail and palace for possible surangs - not a SINGLE soldier came forward to listen or was seen to obey!


The ONLY saving grace is Zakira!

Maddy, I was cursing Resham for this to Jodha by not opening her mouth in support of Jodha in front of MAham while she was badmouthing Jodha and even Hakima was nodding in sync with Maham and Resham deserve those hunter beat by Ruqu for this.
However I think they were silent because they knew Maham is on her last stage and it would not be wise to talk in between and anger her more which may affect her health even more or Jodha would have advised them to keep quiet while Maham talks.
To be frank with from the beginning, I don't understand the need of Moti to Jodha as she will never be there for her in time of need. She just orders Jodha on not doing something but not advise her like Zakira. She was the one who stayed in Agra palace even when Jodha had left it for good. She is used to the comforts of Agra palace and being the bandhi of Khas Begum and enjoying her life. She left Jodha to leave in the midnights all alone to meet Sujamal, she left her to leave the palace alla lone in the midnight, she left her to go and save Khaiber in the midnight all alone and never thought of giving her company and to take care of her requirements in those ugly hours. She accompanies Jodha only when she goes to the DEK, so that she can enjoy the show.
But 1 thing still can't understand was when did Jalal released Resham from prison, had he not ordered Resham to be kept in custody for coming to Jodha's Hojra? then how come Resham is wandering all over the palace and prison without any hindrance?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Maddy, I was cursing Resham for this to Jodha by not opening her mouth in support of Jodha in front of MAham while she was badmouthing Jodha and even Hakima was nodding in sync with Maham and Resham deserve those hunter beat by Ruqu for this.
However I think they were silent because they knew Maham is on her last stage and it would not be wise to talk in between and anger her more which may affect her health even more or Jodha would have advised them to keep quiet while Maham talks.
To be frank with from the beginning, I don't understand the need of Moti to Jodha as she will never be there for her in time of need. She just orders Jodha on not doing something but not advise her like Zakira. She was the one who stayed in Agra palace even when Jodha had left it for good. She is used to the comforts of Agra palace and being the bandhi of Khas Begum and enjoying her life. She left Jodha to leave in the midnights all alone to meet Sujamal, she left her to leave the palace alla lone in the midnight, she left her to go and save Khaiber in the midnight all alone and never thought of giving her company and to take care of her requirements in those ugly hours. She accompanies Jodha only when she goes to the DEK, so that she can enjoy the show.
But 1 thing still can't understand was when did Jalal released Resham from prison, had he not ordered Resham to be kept in custody for coming to Jodha's Hojra? then how come Resham is wandering all over the palace and prison without any hindrance?



Jaya how perfectly you have described Moti. The NEW Moti. The old one was just perfect. Remember the episode when Jodha goes to commit suicide and how Moti begs Jalal to cut her head if he wants but to please find and save Jodha.

The Moti who gave right advice to Jodha? Especially when Jodha was in extreme ghrina mood and used to be stubborn it was Moti who used to tell her calmly.

This is the limitation of this NEW MOTI. All she does is enjoys gossiping with Bandis, enjoy the prevelige of being Jodha's confidante and the power that comes with it.

Moti just on any pretext hangs around when Jalal comes visiting. She does not even bend to do pranam and she does not walk away promptly she TELLS Jalal she is leaving!!! Like he cares too hoots if she is there or not! Moti almost brushes by Jalal when she walks away!

When Jodha really needed her Moti is NEVER around like you pointed out the instances, meeting Sujamal alone at night, leaving Agra, going to free Khyber that time Moti very well knew Jodha's state of mind and she was just cool.

I wish they bring back the old Moti cos she one is getting an eyesore all the time. Must be more than 6 months but nobody seems to like her. She is imp part of serial cos she has Jodha's ear but all she seems to do is enjoy the power.

I was also upset with Hakima and Resham. Resham should have atleast said Jodha saved me from Ruk's whipping. She is ungrateful totally.

Jodha deserves a loyal bandi who will be ready to sacrifice her life for Jodha if needed, not the one who eyes Jalal and hangs around to interrupt them at every opportunity!

I guess since Jodha said she had invited Resham she was let out of arrest.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice analysis mansi.
Largely i personally think there is nothing left to depict abt maham n her karma then her terrible consequence. Maham is the greatest example how can b greed devastated fully anyone's life. MS's once upon a time's powerful wazeri aliya on whose's order almost all ppl of saltanat did up n down, the mighty emperor of MS was puppet in her hands n now today she is the most helpless person in void hand,dieing like throbing day by day in drakness room. Had she ever imagined this kind of awful consequence would b happened in her life? However, this is the perfect scenario of world famous proverb- as u sow,so you reap.
Besides, i don't think any kind of new bandaphod of her previous sin has any value now as neither frm now Jalal has to keep wary abt maham's next new sazesh nor maham has to make any new sazesh against Jalal where as maham is the transitory guest of this world now rather to see sbs segment i have felt that jalal n maham's final open conversation has freed them frm burden. It wl b a happy ending of a relationship along with a black shadow's forever termination frm JJ's life.
In yesterday's episode i have huge liked Jodha's this dialogue before ruq that she doesn't get fear on any baad dua as she has confidence on her Almighty n her Almighty never wl do any injustice with her where as she never has done any commit in her life. Its now crystal clear on her requesting to maham for taking back baad dua was only to remove Jalal's inner turbulent on the issue of baad dua.
Mansi, frankly now a days i have no gentle word for ruq that i can use. If i open my mouth abt her then only galiya wl come out. I don't know how u wl describe abt her in next keeping ur sanity!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nyc analysis...
The episode wz an ok one...atoeast jodha took permission to meet maham frm jalal fr a change...
Well hv I told u how much I'm hating rukiye now a days...the woman is getting in my nerves...hope jodha says smthng to her..
Many r thinking that rukiye might create sm sort of mu btwn jodha n jalal bt I believe they hv passed that phase..jalal know what jodha is like so no mu bt dere might sm argument bt nothing much...
Can't bear rukiye...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Very nice analysis mansi.
Largely i personally think there is nothing left to depict abt maham n her karma then her terrible consequence. Maham is the greatest example how can b greed devastated fully anyone's life. MS's once upon a time's powerful wazeri aliya on whose's order almost all ppl of saltanat did up n down, the mighty emperor of MS was puppet in her hands n now today she is the most helpless person in void hand,dieing like throbing day by day in drakness room. Had she ever imagined this kind of awful consequence would b happened in her life? However, this is the perfect scenario of world famous proverb- as u sow,so you reap.
Besides, i don't think any kind of new bandaphod of her previous sin has any value now as neither frm now Jalal has to keep wary abt maham's next new sazesh nor maham has to make any new sazesh against Jalal where as maham is the transitory guest of this world now rather to see sbs segment i have felt that jalal n maham's final open conversation has freed them frm burden. It wl b a happy ending of a relationship along with a black shadow's forever termination frm JJ's life.
In yesterday's episode i have huge liked Jodha's this dialogue before ruq that she doesn't get fear on any baad dua as she has confidence on her Almighty n her Almighty never wl do any injustice with her where as she never has done any commit in her life. Its now crystal clear on her requesting to maham for taking back baad dua was only to remove Jalal's inner turbulent on the issue of baad dua.
Mansi, frankly now a days i have no gentle word for ruq that i can use. If i open my mouth abt her then only galiya wl come out. I don't know how u wl describe abt her in next keeping ur sanity!

Exactly! Even I am boiling mad with Ruq and hope it will not spill into my writing!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nyc analysis...
The episode wz an ok one...atoeast jodha took permission to meet maham frm jalal fr a change...
Well hv I told u how much I'm hating rukiye now a days...the woman is getting in my nerves...hope jodha says smthng to her..
Many r thinking that rukiye might create sm sort of mu btwn jodha n jalal bt I believe they hv passed that phase..jalal know what jodha is like so no mu bt dere might sm argument bt nothing much...
Can't bear rukiye...

Yes, I feel exactly like you on this ... there will be no MU!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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superb analysis Esp green part
BEK was a knock out
one of those kids is mine'😡 Well wrong person and for wrong reason, it might be fake concern but she is concerned for her audah
i cant tolerate ruk anymore😡rukaiya is a snake..
I don't care how bad maham was but she is the one who raised jalal I don't think she deserves to die like that. jalal could have been more empathetic towards her. I know she did a lot of evil she had her motives just like everyone else. look how bad ruks is towards jodha and how many time she took sides with maham to do evil to jodha and yet jalal has not punished her like that.

maham is his mother too if even he wanted to punish her not like this. she is going to die all alone in all that pain from hunger. she lost her son although he was evil too that was a great loss for her and then to add to it he threw her in the dark dungeon what could be more heartbreaking. and look at the way he killed adham it is a good thing that maham was not there to see. when coming to ruks she deserves to be punished too. ruks is very bold after being so evil to jodha..i have no hope ruks will be punished by jalal coz wtever she does jalal never punish her..even after SHE insulted him in DEK... now she wants to be mother to one of jodhas children not right at all. 😡 do not let maham die like that please let jalal go to her and hold her and forgive her for what she did maybe she will raise her curse against the children
precap-jodha was really funny the way she says pakhandi aurat 😆. Tone, expressions,gestures:spot on!!
I am reallt looking forward to it
jodha reverse pychology...jallu always fall for it
jodha knows jalal still loves MA and can't hear anything against her no matter what MA does to him...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi
A very nice analysis .your and diksha's take on Jalal was very insightful ...
The one question that came to my mind is
Could we ever truly hate our loved ones
Even after facing the betrayal of its worst kind? And may be the answer is not and may be Jalal is also going thru the same dilemma and that's what may be Jo is trying to bring out in the precap .
Coming to the episode
Hb's gesture toward's maham was heart touching and shows the striking contrast between them.maham claiming to be the badi ammi is cursing him while hb is praying for her foster sons soul
Jalal Jo and bakshi scene was so good j yesterday bakshi seems to be genuinely happy to see Jo and the way she went away giving them space to talk makes me think if sharif's is no where in the picture bakshi could be a better human being...
Coming to ruq
I don't know who i want to be gone first sharif or ruq ,their sick obssession towards audha irritates me to no level thati would be the happiest if both are exposed simultaneously and gone
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Posted: 11 years ago
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the write up by mansi was excellent ! . . . the episode was ok as jodha was marvellous ! . but why jalal was given so little screen space ? . jodha is so kindhearted towards resham,maham n all others but have they really acknowledged it ? maham should do so now. . jodha is facing all odds to support maham n in a way helping her jalal during maham's last days . whereas jalal is maintaining a i don't care act w.r.t. maham ( though jodha can feel his pain ).. maham's sins were unpardonable but jj are not fully aware of it n even in history at maham' death akbar was inconsolable . so we can digest it . if maham repents genuinely then it is fine . the glorification part may not be liked by all . . In JJ 's scene , both were graceful . it was a relief to see that jodha had got jalal's permission as we were spared from any mu . jalal was clearly hiding his inner turmoil , he was a little sad, to uplift his mood he was diverting his attention towards the innocent kid , he knew very well that jodha shall visit maham n he agreed easily ,he was pretending that he was angry , he was no meeting jodha's eyes n he quickly walked away coz he knew jodha can read him easily . the interaction was very beautiful which displayed their love, understanding of other's inner feelings n respect towards each other ! .. . jodha is so smart , she knows him n in the precap she used reverse psychology upon him. jodha 's expressions were bang on !. . jalal's pain was visible to her ! . . jodha is shown having unique qualities of heart n if the matters concern jalal then she is unstoppable !. jalal should not be guilt ridden n jodha is determined to guide him even if everyone including jalal is opposing him . only jodha deserves akbar;s unconditional love . ruqu - it is good that ruqu is irritating jodha now but not as much we are irritated to see her constant jaap of her child . . coz of kids we can't see any mu between jj n i feel that jalal will take jodha's side when ruqu shall plan against jodha pointing towards jodha's carelessness !
Edited by mm250314 - 11 years ago

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