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Posted: 11 years ago
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A nice post History Greek šŸ‘šŸ¼

i think JA thought that JO will b strong enough to bear all his insults. Still dunno y he chose to do so to her just to prove a point to his conspirators. But i still think somewhr Jodha trusts Jalaal she might not understand him but she does trust him. N thats d reason shes not too hurt when he tells her that he doesnt love her n he wants to divorce her.

Trust is not only earned thru words but actions too. She knows when she was in danger (khyber kidnapped 2nd time) how Jalaal not only rescued her but trusted her n cleared her name in front of ppl. Although his actions contradict his words but yet she knows that Jalaal will do anything if at all she is in danger.

I dont know of whatever i wrote was logical enough or not šŸ˜• but only thing is one wud not love another person if u dont trust that person. Now we dont know whether Shehanshah truly loved Jodha or not šŸ˜‰ but Jodha still loves him. šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Excellent post Abhay.
U have embellished Jodha's condition perfectly.
I perplex to think how could b Jodha's faith on Jalal this type ludicrous question raised at present where jalal has created hard situation before her. No, in the hardship situation, Jalal has thrown Jodha,its not possible to keep faith continously on husband for any wife. Nevertheless Jodha has still faith on Jalal n her scenes with ruq n maan sigh were its proof. Ruq, Jalal's bachpan ka dost wanted to say Jalal's character as like as womenizer before Jodha but Jodha didn't nod with her talk or convict abt hubby to go against her husband for a while. Is it not faith of Jodha on Jalal?
Jodha is that strong lady before any injustice she can break nonetheless never sprains. So if she had no remained faith on Jalal then she never would have taken vow frm MS to stay with Jalal forever.
Only this poor lady is in vacillating,in agony,in shocked to think why is Jalal suddenly misbehaving severly with her ? Jodha is now really tired to fight with her inner turmoil. The inflexible situation is gonna in Jodha's life at present, any sesible person shouldn't expect anything frm her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Really nice post Abhay enjoyed reading it. I haven't watched JA for some time but saw yesterday's episode, it's too much of natakiya rupantar for me. After watching each episode I end up thinking is it possible in those times? But I loved paridhi yesterday as Jodha she acted like a queen especially in scene of Jo n ruk.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2">Abhay so glad to see your posts on Radhika's thread and this post.
Really miss your posts and your in depth analysis not just historical but of Jodha and Jalal's feelings.

I LOVED Paridhi's acting today. She was just fabulous. šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
When she was talking with HB and finally her control slipped and she cried - I got so emotional, I could feel her pain.

For some reason I liked Lavina better yesterday, not as much today.

I hate watching Jalal with Atifa cos when he smiles at her and gives her expression he has given before to Jodha or Rukayya I feel very angry.

Jodha is supposed to blindly trust Jalal when
he lied to her about shikar
he told Jodha to her face that he loves Atifa now
he told her to her face that loving her was a mistake
he told her that he does not want to listen to her views
he told her that SHE has destroyed his love
he is behaving badly with Ruk also which he has never done before

MOST IMPORTANTLY - when Jodha knows MOST OF ALL WHAT JALAL HAS CRAVED SO LONG IS CHILD - when he is getting his most desired wish - he shouts at his unborn babies saying let them know what he thinks of their mother

after all this Jodha is blindly supposed to trust Jalal!!! He has lashed out at her and wounded her again and again.

He told her he is a Shehenshah and can marry as many times and whoever he wants. He is telling everybody including his mother and his best friend-cum-wife that he is so much in love with Atifa he does not mind leaving his takht for her - they believe him but Jodha is not supposed to!

Ruk keeps telling Jodha she knows Jalal best and he moved away from her for Jodha and he is doing the same to Jodha with Atifa.

Jodha has not got time to think also in the uproar and still she is just supposed to trust Jalal?

I think if she gets time to think Jodha will think where it all went wrong, she might be thinking he changed due to Khyber thing. Jodha will come to realize something is wrong this is not HER Jalal. She said as much to Maan Singh that Jalal is not himself and she loves him.

I think not his love for Atifa but his shouting at his babies might have made her believe he has changed.

Jalal had to pretend for some reason and get her away from him. I still don't understand why by saying will give Talaq how Jodha becomes safe? She will still be pregnant and still be carrying his waris.

There is no law as per my knowledge which says if parents are separated then children do not remain waris!

Whatever reasons of Jalal's he himself know that he went too far. He knows by saying Talaq he hurt her very badly. Jalal knows that he has hurt everybody who love him from HB to his Begums.

He is hurting himself but so far he has not given any indication of it. He was not given any self talks about what he is doing to Jodha before today. Still his pain is understandable, his trust is understandable but for some Jodha's is not!!!

Yes Jalal has hurt her very badly. Jodha is pregnant carrying twins in an extremely delicate emotional state and has undergone tough physical times and it is her strength and her dignity that has made her carry on.

Jodha's sentence to Moti for refusing to again talk with Jalal is very telling, she says no point in talking now, do not want to bring bitterness in relations for future. Jodha has not given up on Jalal - to her it seems he has.

For hurting her and everybody who loves him, Jalal will have to give explanation and say sorry. They did not doubt him - rather for reasons best known only to him so far - he has to not trust them with this.

Jodha once she thinks mostly will realize there are some missing pieces in this - maybe that is why she ran to the Nikah venue - she might realize his reasons for doing this - will that make the hurt of his lashing words and not trusting go away!

Ultimately they both will get thru this cos they love each other.

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maddy amazing your jodha pov post are always treat to read coz u dont point on jalal for jodha
u just stated her love for him
agree trsut us imp part of love when u can trust a person your love become more strong
and I can say jodha trust on jalal is still there after his public declaration to her abt he love atifa atleast three ti four times in the track her faith and trust in jalal never faded during her jungle trip
she knew he will come to save her and thats why I say she has full faith in her love but then her worries are also there which are diff
this track gave immense pain to both and now its there work how to heal eachother pain with there love
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti



maddy amazing your jodha pov post are always treat to read coz u dont point on jalal for jodha
u just stated her love for him
agree trsut us imp part of love when u can trust a person your love become more strong
and I can say jodha trust on jalal is still there after his public declaration to her abt he love atifa atleast three ti four times in the track her faith and trust in jalal never faded during her jungle trip
she knew he will come to save her and thats why I say she has full faith in her love but then her worries are also there which are diff
this track gave immense pain to both and now its there work how to heal eachother pain with there love



Thanks Preet
Line in bold - I just hope CVs don't jump into new track. They have to give us all proper f/b to explain every action of Jalal's.
How Jodha and Jalal get back together will be a treat to watch and I hope THIS time Ruk won't be sent to spoil it!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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😲 you opened a thread!
Well its good to try and woo viewers back... hope they keep trying... me the TRP aunty might just come back😳\
I absolutely do not know what happened in the episode.
If Jalal kept saying he has fallen out of love for Jo, I think she must believe it. I would. Specially in a set-up where taking another woman is so easy for the said man.
Oh,, so LT and PS put their act together..good to know😃
Not so good to know is that CVs idea of a tedha/strong Jalal is one who can effortlessly bully a preggo woman(I understand from your post that this is what it is?) Does he have a strong enough reason to do things this way?
A preggo woman is more prone to emotional turmoil and I know-- experience.
the promo pops up a few times while I watch my 'now' fav show where a fat faced woman yells with apparent glee..."mar gaya tumhara shehenshah" šŸ˜” Has all that happened or is yet to happen?
AAANND the reason for your post is that folks on the forum..scratch that some folks on the forum are saying that Jo needs to trust Jalal enough even after he gave her many reasons to not do so?šŸ˜† How typical.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Abhay wonderful post... I believe Jo was right in her stance, as she is still figuring out why Jalaal changed so much, not only Jallaal behaving like this to her, but also with the whole harem including his mother and after a married women..

Jo keep on hearing the words she unfit as a wife, never understand him, and the worst it's his fault to give her heart ,he moved on loves Atifaa and now talaaq before all..

Jo said she will go to aamer if he didn't change, then Jallu would have said that do what ever you want I don't care ? and should have left why he said Talaaq that too before all ...

Still Jo is strong and holding herself for the sake of kids, if she is not pregnant may be should would have broken completely... But still she take vachan from maansingh to take care of Jalaal as now he is not in position to think right or wrong, she she loves him and want him safe..

Today she heard Talaaq from Jalaal mouth, while Ruqu was weeping and telling how she hate her and all, JO consoled her, that's the strength she had... That's why Jalaal can go to this length to hurt her, but still in the strom also she is holding herself...

I can understand jalaal his love and faith on JO... But I still can't agree that JO should have faith on him seeing and hearing from his mouth that he loves someone else again and again telling her YOU NEVER LISTEN YOUR HUSBAND words..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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really nice post AbhayšŸ‘šŸ¼
beautiful description of jodha's emotions šŸ‘
n i totally agree with u. cvs have gone ott in order to show TE back but i really hope that in the end of this track they justify his actions sensiblyšŸ¤“
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
glad that u made a separate post!😊
I fail to understand on what basis people question JJ's love..??

we have witnessed it in 300 episodes...we have witnessed how much JJ did for each other and to what extent they can go for each other...still questioning their love is something I cannot take...be it Jalal or Jodha.

every relationship has its ups n down that nowhere says the love is lost or they fall out of it...I personally dont believe in falling out of love...once u fall in love that will forever be there,u may forget it over time but love will never die...kyuki pyaar vapas nahi liya jasakta.

coming to JJ, their love is as pure as them...yes, they did many wrong things in this track, but that has nothing to do with their love, u dont need to be perfect to love...I love my JJ with all their imperfections.

Abhay, old CVs r gone..now a new set of CVs r handling this show..hence the logic in missing...who doesnt want to see tedha Jalal..?? to bring him back, CVs used wrong way...CVs made him torturing his pregnant wife when she needs him the most..in the whole track one person he is trying to safe is the one suffering the most...its like tedha plan at the cost of causing pain to Jodha.

Having said that, jitni taqleefein Jodha ko horahi hai, usse kahin zyada Jalal ko horahi hai...he is getting bashed/thrashed by everyone in Agra, his mother, wives, nobles, his people still he is strong enough to take all of it and standing tall for the sake of his family...others can cry, scream, share their pain, but Jalal is all alone in the game...he too is suffering, he too is eating his pain every moment...u need a sher dil to undergo such pain and still keeping your cool...his level of patience amazes me!

As I said before, CVs chose wrong path to bring TE back...but as he is back, we should wait how the track ends and how they justify Jalal's all actions throughout this track.😊


JJ foreverā¤ļø
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

glad that u made a separate post!😊

I fail to understand on what basis people question JJ's love..??

we have witnessed it in 300 episodes...we have witnessed how much JJ did for each other and to what extent they can go for each other...still questioning their love is something I cannot take...be it Jalal or Jodha.

every relationship has its ups n down that nowhere says the love is lost or they fall out of it...I personally dont believe in falling out of love...once u fall in love that will forever be there,u may forget it over time but love will never die...kyuki pyaar vapas nahi liya jasakta.

coming to JJ, their love is as pure as them...yes, they did many wrong things in this track, but that has nothing to do with their love, u dont need to be perfect to love...I love my JJ with all their imperfections.

Abhay, old CVs r gone..now a new set of CVs r handling this show..hence the logic in missing...who doesnt want to see tedha Jalal..?? to bring him back, CVs used wrong way...CVs made him torturing his pregnant wife when she needs him the most..in the whole track one person he is trying to safe is the one suffering the most...its like tedha plan at the cost of causing pain to Jodha.

Having said that, jitni taqleefein Jodha ko horahi hai, usse kahin zyada Jalal ko horahi hai...he is getting bashed/thrashed by everyone in Agra, his mother, wives, nobles, his people still he is strong enough to take all of it and standing tall for the sake of his family...others can cry, scream, share their pain, but Jalal is all alone in the game...he too is suffering, he too is eating his pain every moment...u need a sher dil to undergo such pain and still keeping your cool...his level of patience amazes me!

As I said before, CVs chose wrong path to bring TE back...but as he is back, we should wait how the track ends and how they justify Jalal's all actions throughout this track.😊


JJ foreverā¤ļø



Tamy if CVs had given us just 3-4 scenes of Jalal's self talks about Jodha don't like hurting her and could have done without the shout at babies stuff - everybody would have cheered Jalal all the way and TRPs would have soared!

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