Jodha-Akbar | Soul Vs. Intellect | Updated 22/8.|.2 Posts on Pg-10,11. - Page 5

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Tamy if CVs had given us just 3-4 scenes of Jalal's self talks about Jodha don't like hurting her and could have done without the shout at babies stuff - everybody would have cheered Jalal all the way and TRPs would have soared!

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Tamy if CVs had given us just 3-4 scenes of Jalal's self talks about Jodha don't like hurting her and could have done without the shout at babies stuff - everybody would have cheered Jalal all the way and TRPs would have soared!

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Friends...
Want to Post my Feelings about the Episode Today, and share it with all of you...
Hence, a separate Thread, after a friend asked me ...

I am sorry, if i don't respond to you all..But please share your views...
I will be free next week...

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Today, let me keep the LOGICS (of this ILLogical and UNrealisticTrack) aside and lets evaluate a few OTHER bits...

Cv wants, if we are not using Brain, so Brain using not allowed.😆 😆

1.
Paridhi's and Lavina's acting was very good...Both enacted their respective scenes well...LT with Jodha, and PS with Hamida..
Clap for BOTH the actresses..RT was also good..

Agree,👏 👏. ( 😆 😆you are saying Clap, so i did😆 😆)


2.
One thing i laughed hard was after thinking that, Zee/CV's are DOING their BEST to keep the viewers glued, be it with ---
a. Back to back Promos, on a record basis
b. Tweets after Tweets
c. ' Meaningful ' Precaps
d. And, of course, that " Ishq yeh Woh Ehsaas " tune after a LOONG Time..

CV knows, how to sold, this time Serial.😆 😆 Good buyness man hee.😆 😆
3.
I will still NOT comment whom to side with, because neither i can understand Jalal crying and NOR i can see all the Begums, his mother, and others weeping.. I still stand by, that this ENTIRE track was a DESPERATELY thought attempt to pull up Jalal's image(Strong/Tedha ?), but in a not so GOOD manner...

So Atleast we Learn one more quality of Teda, by CV, viewers not liked, Cv has no problem, TRP is falling no problem;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But we will confirm this teda defination, so Cv this problem ruining the serial. But Cv decided we will not Learn. viewers calling. But No effect

our CV is Param intlligent.😡 😡

4.
MOST IMPORTANTLY...I do not understand, HOW CAN a Wife STILL Believe her husband , when --

a. He REPEATEDLY tells her AGAIN and AGAIN, in "PRIVATE" and also in "PUBLIC" that, he NO Longer LOVES her, NO Longer Feels for her, and NO Longer wants to SEE her.

b. BTW, I can quote MANY phrases of Vishwaas / Ishq / Belief / Vachans, etc. etc. here ..LOL.. But, just try to think once, IS it really Possible for a LADY to believe "it", in such circumstanceS.?.

c. If anyone will REALLY believe IT, then i applaud...

d. Kya re.?. Khud Jalal ko bhi lag gaya hai aaj, that he has "" REALLY GONE OVERBOARD in his 007 tactics"" , and needs to end this DRAMA asap, BUT agar iske baad bhi koi Jodha ko Prem / Love / Vishwaas / Belief, etc. ki duhai de , and ask her to Believe Jalal then, i can only ROFL...Jab Jalal has realized that this is NOW ""EXTREME"" , even after this, can we expect his Begums/Ammi to be in their Beliefs INTACT..?..

Realistically, It's impossible... When HIS Bachpan ka DOST has Lost every BELIEF and EVEN his MOTHER has LOST all Hopes, that mother who gave birth to him..
And, after all this, I do NOT expect Jodha to HOLD on to that ""BELIEF"" ...Is baar kuch Zyada ho gaya hai...It's better practiced than PROFESSED...which even Jalal could not do in Suja track...

Jalal did NOT believe his eyes, after seeing Jodha with Suja in the Jungle..But was FORCED to believe the WORST after, Maham Anga's 'corruption' of his MIND..
Similarly, Jodha was normal even after..
i. Seeing Jalal in that tub with Atifa..
ii. After seeing Atifa's picture being drawn by Jalal..
iii. Her hand-holding of Atifa, infront of bhari Mehfil, in Agra..etc..

But what can she do.?..When, she is TOLD [ and even the UN-Born Kids are Told..!!!..] something "corrosive" ""again and again"" ...??... Still keep the Belief.?. I don't know, perhaps i have not gone in such situations in LIFE till now. But, i can not expect anything BIG also..

To me , it seems that, Jalal wanted to make sure that, she shatters to a POINT after which she keeps " NUMB from the proceedings " to keep her away...But was this Correct to do so.?. I won't say anything on this..No point...

Aankhen dhokha kha sakti hain, but jab koi insaan , aapka humsafar, aapko baar baar BOLKAR Vishwaas karata hai, in PUBLIC and in PRIVATE, about the Worst scenario, then i can NOT really expect, any MORTAL BEING to HOLD on to ANY BELIEF...

BTW, Aren't pregnant women , MORE PRONE than normal ones, to emotional turmoil during pregnancies...?...
{ Any experts here, i am only asking...}

Isn't it UNfair to expect TOO MUCH from Jodha, just to PROVE one lead BETTER over OTHER..?.
I am not going to play any ping-pong game with anyone of J-J...

Abhay agree with you, but one ques, He is shouting he will be marry with Atifa, Audience are saying he is faking, but why Agra people +wives not understanding he is faking. so how much communication gap in Agra,

When a person in love, is he again & again shouts.But single person not doubt, jalal, ?

Why any one not guess, Atifa can be a killer.?

Why All harem ladies not learnt from Ben case?

if they can beat AM team +kabul why they not using Brain? its all CV falut.😡

Agree Jalal when speaks Harsh, other not remains space, to speak, but Why Ruk how many years, not understaning Jalal ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;kee something is cooking in Jalal mind? why begums not investgated ? they not got any result, thats differ point, but begums not tried.

they are saying, you should not do, this ? but they not found out Atifa truth.

5.
Coming to Jodha's BELIEF in HER LOVE...Her LOVE is still ALIVE..She will still LOVE Jalal..Her testimony to HERSELF, her Kanha, and Man Singh was an example of her UNDYING Faith in the Love for her husband...
Agree, beautifully said, 👏 👏
When the ENTIRE Harem of Shahenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohammad Akbar , had given ALL Hopes of Jalal returning BACK, when her Bachpan ka Dost who claims to know JALAL the BEST lost all hopes, when the EVER wise Salima Begum lost hopes, when HIS Own mother Lost hopes, THEN it was the SAME JODHA, who defeated all ODDS and hung up to the Belief that, HER Husband / HER SOUL will return, and happened the same WAY...
👏 👏 👏 👏
Souls NEVER Lie...Souls don't speak...If at all, there is something which LIES, it is the intellect, and Jalal EXPLOITED that to the FULL potential in present track to keep Jodha away, but i really HATE CV's for showing such a CONDITION...

👏 👏 👏 👏
I can NOT question Jodha's LOVE for JALAL here (Never questioned Jalal's either, if i questioned anything it was the ROUTE adopted by him...)...

Even Jalal has understood JODHA's world ENDS at HIM and STARTS at HIM... *PERIOD*


I must say, it was really heart wrenching , to justify the TURMOIL of anyone's feelings today...


PS -- Today's episode focussed on BARE truths of Human Relationships, and i chose to elaborate on JJ here, coz not much was shown today...And , i won't evaluate the other happenings, as i have done so, in my past 3 posts already..This comment is ONLY for Exploring Jodha and Jalal's SELF, especially Jodha, as she is UNAWARE of ALL things at present...And, then made an attempt to evaluate the happenings BARRING all logics of Kingship, because ANY King will NEVER adopt the route shown here...
Agree, yes Human realtionship truth showed beautifully. l liked Jodha consoling own, her eyes were speaking Sielance truth. Deep pain in inner+Mind consoling was surperb.

Different type of realtions, showed by Cv, different angel but jalal standing own Withdrawing Jone.

In withdarwing jone some days we work, as Computer work. Without feelings. So what effects we are leaving, for others not knows.

But jalal has found Heart, so when he reached Mind to Heart, he saw, Jodha is breaking internally, suddenely he said, Too much is doing On.so now stopping is necessary.

So Heart Called Heart,( AKDHA ) DIL KEE AWAG SUNAI DEE HEE DEE JALAL KOO.😃

Late woke Up, but Woke up.😆 😆 So lets see.

i saw SBS, Maham is behind, she is own accepting her Gunah.

PPS -- Man Singh is upto something BIG...I BET..

Originally posted by: tamy267

wohi toh Maddy...shouting on the kids and divorce thing freaked me out! but CVs purposely refrained showing self-talks otherwise audience samajh jati Jalal acting karraha hai..they wanted audience to hate Jalal and at last surprising them with his tedha entry..self-talk ki baat nahi hai, they r justified not showing it but they simply could have avoided the shouting on kids stuff...this was not needed at all.

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Abhay good post.👏 👏

Originally posted by: history_geek

@All..

Thanks for Posting...Nice, Interesting, Contrasting Views... :)



@Sindhu / Nabiii / Maddy / Tamy..and all...

Yes, there are going to be LOTS of Flashbacks, as CV's need to give explanation...
I hope atleast this part is shown Slowly and Nicely...

But still, there are few points which MAY NOT be answered...

1. Jalal's Self-talk when he said, himself falling for Atifa. ;p ... Was he LYING to himself also.?. ;p
2. His "roving eye" in the Jungle on Atifa... ;p [ Perhaps, they will show that there were CCTV's all around. ;p Kidding..Hence, he required to do that ' stalking ' .LOL. ]


Anyways, one thing which i felt for SURE is that, the script was changed perhaps, to some extent, because there were LOTS of changes visible from Monday, after the news of DRASTIC fall in TRP's last week... It appeared as if the CV's NOW took a decision to wrap up this track as soon as possible..

Also, the "Zee Man" had repeatedly told MANY that this track will continue till the END of this Month...But now it is ending this week itself.?. I believe, that something has been changed RECENTLY to wrap this torture soon..



Also, we really can not trust these CV's...I learnt this HARD way in the Benazir Track...
In the Benazir Track, there were some signals showed by the CV's when --

1. Jalal was shown to wash his hands(?) after the touch of Benazir.. { I deduced that Jalal is "SMART" enough and HE KNOWS that Benazir is a Vishkanya, hence he washed his hands..}

2. When he took Benazir for a BOAT ride to the Dargah, i thought that he wants to know about her/verify her identity, but that was not the case, and had to be saved by Jodha there...

That track, we were told by the Zee Man that, Benazir track is a short one, but it continued for LONG, since JA had consistent TRP's .. LOL..


CV's "ALWAYS" start tracks will MIXED signals, and then DECIDE the course based on TRP's...

This is what i could deduce...
So, Belief / No-Belief, i prefer taking this, on an Episode basis now, as all the THEORIES of Entire Forum were TAKEN for a TOSS in the Benazir Track, despite so-MANY ""SIGNALS"" by Jalal...

I am happy that present track is Ending soon..