Jodha-Akbar | Soul Vs. Intellect | Updated 22/8.|.2 Posts on Pg-10,11. - Page 2

i am just happy that u posted something abhay...

Wonderful post abhay.. defenitely jodha akbar's life is not made of bed of roses... but cv's failed to show it in a better way..they are ending this track or say rushing to end this track coz of huge dip in trp's last week... any how feeling happy that this track is ending soon..plz chk ur pm...

Abhay so glad to see your posts on Radhika's thread and this post.
Really miss your posts and your in depth analysis not just historical but of Jodha and Jalal's feelings.

I LOVED Paridhi's acting today. She was just fabulous. 👏👏👏
When she was talking with HB and finally her control slipped and she cried - I got so emotional, I could feel her pain.

For some reason I liked Lavina better yesterday, not as much today.

I hate watching Jalal with Atifa cos when he smiles at her and gives her expression he has given before to Jodha or Rukayya I feel very angry.

Jodha is supposed to blindly trust Jalal when
he lied to her about shikar
he told Jodha to her face that he loves Atifa now
he told her to her face that loving her was a mistake
he told her that he does not want to listen to her views
he told her that SHE has destroyed his love
he is behaving badly with Ruk also which he has never done before

MOST IMPORTANTLY - when Jodha knows MOST OF ALL WHAT JALAL HAS CRAVED SO LONG IS CHILD - when he is getting his most desired wish - he shouts at his unborn babies saying let them know what he thinks of their mother

after all this Jodha is blindly supposed to trust Jalal!!! He has lashed out at her and wounded her again and again.

He told her he is a Shehenshah and can marry as many times and whoever he wants. He is telling everybody including his mother and his best friend-cum-wife that he is so much in love with Atifa he does not mind leaving his takht for her - they believe him but Jodha is not supposed to!

Ruk keeps telling Jodha she knows Jalal best and he moved away from her for Jodha and he is doing the same to Jodha with Atifa.

Jodha has not got time to think also in the uproar and still she is just supposed to trust Jalal?

I think if she gets time to think Jodha will think where it all went wrong, she might be thinking he changed due to Khyber thing. Jodha will come to realize something is wrong this is not HER Jalal. She said as much to Maan Singh that Jalal is not himself and she loves him.

I think not his love for Atifa but his shouting at his babies might have made her believe he has changed.

Jalal had to pretend for some reason and get her away from him. I still don't understand why by saying will give Talaq how Jodha becomes safe? She will still be pregnant and still be carrying his waris.

There is no law as per my knowledge which says if parents are separated then children do not remain waris!

Whatever reasons of Jalal's he himself know that he went too far. He knows by saying Talaq he hurt her very badly. Jalal knows that he has hurt everybody who love him from HB to his Begums.

He is hurting himself but so far he has not given any indication of it. He was not given any self talks about what he is doing to Jodha before today. Still his pain is understandable, his trust is understandable but for some Jodha's is not!!!

Yes Jalal has hurt her very badly. Jodha is pregnant carrying twins in an extremely delicate emotional state and has undergone tough physical times and it is her strength and her dignity that has made her carry on.

Jodha's sentence to Moti for refusing to again talk with Jalal is very telling, she says no point in talking now, do not want to bring bitterness in relations for future. Jodha has not given up on Jalal - to her it seems he has.

For hurting her and everybody who loves him, Jalal will have to give explanation and say sorry. They did not doubt him - rather for reasons best known only to him so far - he has to not trust them with this.

Jodha once she thinks mostly will realize there are some missing pieces in this - maybe that is why she ran to the Nikah venue - she might realize his reasons for doing this - will that make the hurt of his lashing words and not trusting go away!

Ultimately they both will get thru this cos they love each other.

Thank you abhay for this wonderful n awesome thread yes jj ke love ko question karne wale hum kon he na kisi ke yeh kehne se jodha jalal se kam pyaar karti he uss par trust nahi karti jalal jodha ko pyaar karna thode hi chod dega aur na kisi ke yeh kehne se jalal ko jodha ke pyaar ki koi value nahi hai jodha jalal ko pyaar karna chod ne wali he toh hum kon hote hai yeh kehne wale kon kisko kitna pyaar karta hai ya kon kis ko kam pyaar karta hai...

Aaj phir ek baar jodha or jalal zindagi ke uss dorahe par aakar khade hai janha par unka ek dusare par Vishwash zindagi ki kasauti par daanv par laga hai woh ek baar phir ussi mukaam par hai janha par unka pyaar Vishwash ki ek jung ladh raha hai jisse agar woh jeet gaye toh unka pyaar itna majboot hoga ki sayad phir se kabhi zindagi bhi unke pyaar ka imthihan Vishwash ki kasauti par lene se pahale hajaar baar sochegi or agar jodha or jalal zindagi ki yeh jung haar gaye toh sayad unka pyaar ek chalawa bankar reh jaaye unki raahein itani alag ho jaaye ki zindgi ke kisi modh par phir kabhi na mil paye par mujhe pura yakeen hai yeh dono ek baar phir se yeh jung jeetenge or apne pyaar ko uss mukaam par lekar aayenge jahan se yeh dono woh sufar shuru karenge jiska gawah sara janha hoga aur jisse sadiyon tak zamana yaad rakhega kyunki ek baar pahale bhi yeh dono aisi hi ek jung ko jeet chuke hai or ek baar phir jeetenge bus itna farkh he pahale janha jalal khada tha wahan aaj jodha khadi he par jung wohi he dil, dimaag or aankhon ke beech jahan jo aankhon ne dekha aur kaano ne suna usse dimaag maan raha hai par dil dimaag, aankhon aur kaano se bagawat kar raha hai or keh raha aisa nahi ho sakta, ab kuch log kahenge ki jodha ko jalal se pyaar toh he par uss par Vishwash nahi hai par kya yeh sach hai nahi kyunki zindagi har kisi ko kabhi na kabhi uss modh par lati hai janha humare dil ki awaaz ko humara dimaag dabaa deta hai aur hum na chahte huye bhi yeh yakeen kar lete hai ki jo humari aankhon ne dekha, jo humare kano ne suna aur jo humara dimaag hum se keh raha hai wohi sach hai toh kya sach me hum apne apno par Vishwash nahi karte nahi hum apne apno par pura Vishwash karte hai bus ek dhundh usse apne aagosh me kanhi chupa leti hai par humare dil me chupa humare apno ke liye humara Vishwash uss dhundh ko hatta deta hai aur phir se humara humare apno par Vishwash pakka ho jata hai aur iss baar pahale se jyada majboot aur pahale se jyada atoot aisa hi jodha aur jalal ke beech hoga sujamal ke track me jalal ne jodha par atoot Vishwash karna shikha jisse khyber track me logo ki baatein, jhopdi me jodha ke kapde aur khyber or jodha ke ek saath raat gujaarne ka aihshas bhi nahi todh paya aisa hi atoot Vishwash jodha ko yeh atifa track shikhayega janha phir kabhi khud jalal ke yeh kehne se bhi ki woh jodha se pyaar nahi karta jodha ka jalal ke pyaar par Vishwash kamjor nahi kar payega...

Originally posted by: AntaresVega

Very well written Abhay!!

You have justified Jodha's stance perfectly!.

I still see posts saying Jodha doesn't have faith in him, Jodha's prem is a joke..BLAH BLAH.

Why do people expect a woman to have faith in a guy who tells you repeatedly right on your face to back-off? If she sticks around like a leech, wouldn't that be a blow to her self-respect?For that matter, she express her anger about him to anyone but asks Mansingh to watch out for him. Isn't that faith and loyalty enough?

Weren't they the same people who mocked Jodha for expecting the Shehenshah to read hr eyes? Didn't they say that: "How can the Shehenshah trust her after she herself mouthed the words that she loves Suja?". Now I ask the same Q to them: "When the Shehenshah himself has openly declared his love to Atifa, what can she believe?" ( I know, now I'm going to get the answer: they didnt even confess their love to each other that time, now they're so close. So WHAT??? )

And this is an OPEN QUESTION to such people, not an act of bashing them.

People can't expect everything to be compliant with the Shehenshah and whatever he does. I can't wait for the bad eggs to roll out, but I feel Jalal should have handled Jodha a little more sensitively. Coz if someone plays a bad joke on you and then pops out with a grin saying: "I'm joking!!" it would be so weird. But then, I still applaud him for the way he has chosen to sieve out the disloyal people in his court, given the fact that he didn't even trust Atgah or Mansingh.

I'm very very happy with the way Jodha and Jalal have reacted to the circumstances. I'm happy that she has resolved herself to remain strong for her babies. I'm happy that he is aware of his progress and damage. I'm happy that they are still loyal to each other. But I'm not happy with the way people jump at the opportunity to pass crass comments at Jodha or Jalal. (Calling Jalal Yuckbar is so not done)

Anyway, besides that I'm looking forward for tomorrow.

MA, Adham, Atifa, Ruq...all of them thrown out at once! What about Shariff??😲 Will he also get caught?

P.S: Cooled OFF. Started watching the show again and all previous epis that I missed.

Lines in bold Lyra - it is not what is right or wrong. For some whatever Jalal does is right and whatever Jodha does is wrong! She is made fun of, mocked and questioned about every gesture!

Words can be twisted any way - IF this was Jalal actually in love with Atifa and NOT pretending - comments would have been Jalal himself told her he loves Atifa but she is not choosing to believe him cos she is so arrogant, she feels he can only love her blah blah!

Jodha does NOT know he is pretending! When he told her to leave and she left - she did not stick around! When he told her he loves another she believes - she does not have trust!

No matter what Jalal says - it has to be Jalal is always right and Jodha is always wrong!

Well I think Jodha is perfectly right and she was wonderful today, dignified, self respecting, strong and thinking about her children's safety. She is also thinking about Jalal's changed mind and why.

Wah...I m just speechless Abhay.👏👏👏 Great post...you said all what I wanted to say but couldn't find appropriate words to describe it. Will add more tomorrow.😳

Delighted to see a thread by you after an eternity. Will read in detail and get back to you.

i m just happy this track is ending ! 😆

for me this track is executed very badly i cld not even watch a single epi . i had not mind jalal' harsh word toward jo or his romance with atifa if cv had open up it to the audience that jala is faking.. infact i wud have loved to watch this track then n enjoyed watching jalal but now i was not able tolerate this track.