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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi, do u think Chuchak's army will arrive so soon? The distance is long..if they started in yesterday night, at least it will take 3 episodes to reach Agra..coz Shehnaz thing happened just the morning after Chuchak's army's kooch.😕

I want Shehnaz to be killed..but when her role was never a cameo but a longer one..so I doubt this...besides Jodha will never kill her given yesterday she stopped Jalal telling she is his elder sister.😔
I just want everything to pack up soon...cant tolerate it any longer...in this track JJ r butchered like hell..for the first time I bashed them left right center.🥺

agle week tak yeh sab khatam hojana chahiye!!

btw every vamp runs away taking an Agra inmate captive..Benazir did with Ruqu and now Shehnaz with Rahim🤔

I am desperately waiting to see war scene..a necessary change

You are right, they actually need more time to reach from Kabul to Agra. But remember how the Creatives did a hop, step and jump between Agra and Amer many times. So I have every faith that Mahchuchak's soldiers may take the flight from Kabul and be in Agra by tomorrow!😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati

Great post for a not so great episode, as much as i love your writing, JA has lost its X factor for me, i might as well be watching any other soap which will have similiar twists and turns(if not more logical ones). Characters of Jodha and Jalal have become mere pawns at the hands of CVs who change their persona according to the storyline instead of having story being shaped out of what these magnificient people were when this journey started.

I can live with Jodha's potrayal, she was always impulsive, strong headed, fearless. Too soon to trust and just as quick to misjudge. And she has been consistent in standing up for what she believed in, no matter what the price. We may hate it, but that is who she is. And frankly i would rather have a queen potrayed as a fiery, strong headed person who gives two hoots to DEK niceties than a spineless doll who will be a silent witness to her husband decisions, right or wrong. And although she was way off the mark on Shehnaaz, woh kehte hain na "girte hain shai savaar hi maidaane jung mein... Woh kya girenge jo ghutno ke bal chaltein hain" atleast she took a stand (which btw was based on layers of illusions created by Shehnaaz) and stood her ground, even it meant going against Jalal.

Its Jalal that cant seem to tolerate especially after seeing him give a cold shoulder to Jo yesterday. I mean she may have argued for Shehnaaz but Jalal took the decision. Jo never pressurised him into taking a hasty decision, she did not attempt to influence his decision outside of DEK. He could have sought more time, kept Todarmal in jail for a while if he was so convinced of his innocense. He failed on so many levels in this track ... He failed as a ruler who could not judge right from wrong. He failed as a friend who did not stand by Todarmal, and he failed as a husband when he intermingled his reponsibilites as a husband, king and friend and blamed Jo for a decision that he took.

How can he be sooo helpless, if he cant stand up for a friend whom he knows to be innocent how can he be just to his awam?

Husband wife support each other, not by supporting wrong decisions but by reflecting on corrective measure. When Jalal was blindly trusting Ben, Jo confronted him even if it meant bearing brunt of his anger. If Jalal was sure of Todarmal's innocense why did he not uncover the truth himself. If he knew Jo was wrong why did he make matters worse by commiting a bigger wrong. And about his gussa on Jo, he is all appreciative and lovey when Jo asks him to forgive his Jaan begum and his dear sister... The one time she goes against him he gets all worked up!!!! What kind of a partrnership is this.

I quite agree with you regarding portrayals. ... Jo is what she is. And I have always maintianed that she worked as per her default settings in the last few episodes.
The problem with this relation is it looks like Jo wears the pants or the Jamas or whatever... No..No please dont jump on me. But haven't we noticed Jo is less concerned with regards to earning Jalal's ire when she decides to take a stand, while Jalal mostly tries to take a stand to suit Jo's whims and fancies sometimes against his better judgement.
Offcourse subject to the fact that their relation is going fine. For example while forgiving Bakshi and Shariff, he did that against his own predecided judgement.(Jo- Jalal were singing songs around trees that time)
Forgiving Ruq again was against his initial judgement. (again singing bhajans and enjoying jashns toegether)
Letting Shehnaaz stay in the regular residential quarters after what she did to Rahim(again talking in good terms)
Now letting TM be blown to shreds against his better judgement? (yeah... aywn.. still talking in good terms🥱😆
Also, regarding gettting angry for taking a stand, I am sure Jo would have been angry if Jalal refused to agree to her or if he had declared TM 'not guilty' or declared that he wants to search Shehnaaz's room as he thinks Shehnaaz is not what she seems to be...btw..the farmaan was lying quite handy should someone had decided to search her room.
Edited by minnie2308 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Great positive analysis for this pathetic direction..! 👍🏼
Its a good phase of track as a episode..I couldn't enjoy peculiar shots too , something was badly missing all these days..😒
JJ scene: Jalal couldn't accept the fact about TM current fiasco ..His soul no where leaving him space to show TM in ugly mask..As a king he can do better personal involvement in this issue finding out the real culprit ..It will be a treat to watch if this exposure takes place by Jalal ...I don't want to see this Jalal pulling up his anger through his sword session...Its been a year , we want some character growth not a flexible sketch for each episode.. we are discussing like a hell but cv's just flashing their ideas in a simple way...Shehnaaz track , dragged for more than months , but her exposure looks flat and lame...Poor execution..😔
Shehnaaz's exposure takes place in a lame way..It could have been better, I expected Jo's action but its a turn for Shehnaaz...She is a soldier who fought so with so many enemies at a time..Cv's plz remember we are following each episodes with full memory..😆
Initial days , we could got this sort of episodes too , in Maham clone case Jalal was the one who sorted out independently in his own way..Right now they totally moving for a sake of race..😒
Loved Rahim and Jallu scene..The way he rushed at a right spot hints given by him to save Jodha...😊
Loved ur theory regards war sequence...Only after war sequence MA , Ruku phardafash will be done..Unless it looks messy..
Meanwhile , I guess MA will get to know about Shehnaaz self exposure , may be she will rush to shift CB to another place..This was the case where Jodha way in handling issues in a smooth way , there is a high chance shehnaaz getting killed during war ..If at all misunderstanding getting cleared b/w Jalal and Shehnaaz that it was not becoz of him , CB kept as a captive for many yearswhich will be done by Jodha... All this trios JoJa along with Shehnaaz may shake hands in exposing MA...If this was supposed to happen , only when she will come to know about MA who kept his mom as a captive..Unless it won't be done too..🤔
Again another chance of shehnaaz getting killed during war as predicted..As there no signs of shehnaaz part in historical facts..


This is the irony of not just this serial, it happens in every serial after the first brilliance in the early months. Especially after four or five months it all becomes totally illogical. After that its our mistake that we continue watching!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: nini06

👏👏 assum analysis👏👏
time for quick action...itna quick ki kuch palle he nhe padha😆

Thanks Nini ... I want to see the war scenes to see how many are really fighting and how many are just playing dandiya!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---jais---

Nice analysis mansi for so much pheeka pheeka episode. Like your prediction but kabul army can not arrive so much soon. When distance between agra to amer is about 3 days it is kabul . It is much more far away . Khair cvs ki cvs jaane unhone kab logic dikhana hai.
Episode was very pheeka pheeka and there were also so many loopholes in the episode. We all thought shehnaz truth will come out in some dramatic way but it was so simple and very poor directed also. Jodha was looking so weak infront of shehnaz why she did not defend her. She is a trained warrior. She could fought adham soilder but not shehnaz its look quite strange. And how would she get farmaan? Nobody know about the farmaan and if she has already farmaan why she didnot show this to jalal earlier. For what thing she was waiting . Yesterday episode was full of so many bloopers .
Thanks for pm me mansi

Yes the bloopers were countless, but still we are watching aren't we? As fpor the distance between Kabul and Agra, don't forget how suddenly people zipped from Agra to Amer... anything can happen!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi friends... congrats to all of us... now CVs have started giving us Logically Illogical episodes...and we all r enjoying it and discussing like we got something really worth...

actually, what we got? except for 2 tight slaps by Jo, what was there? both our leads showing consistency in being dumb... by now we r used to it... MA showing her overconfidence... we r used to it...MCB acting abnormal and getting to our nerves... we r used to it...

yes... there was something new... Adham , for the first time asked the right question... and i liked it... but then MA joined the elite dumbo club of our leads with her overconfidence, and he was back to himself... so let's discount him too...

now remain Rahim and Shenu... so Rahim... where that small devil got those headless dolls? did he search in shenu's room? as far as i remember, Shenu had broken them around a month back... so how he got it? weren't those dolls thrown away assuming broken by Shenu? or were they kept safe as symbols of our leads? but why need symbolism? if Rahim really want 'Headless' Shehenshah and his fav begum, he should just go and see our leads... they r founder members of that dumbo club... he can get original, why to look for duplicate?

sorry guys... taking out all my frustration here... my seminar today was disaster... the one who took it, doesn't know how to communicate with his colleagues , forget replying their questions, and he was not even prepared... i just reported to organizers and congratulated them for wasting my 2 hrs, and came back leaving it...

anyway, back to our show... so Shenu managed to tie Jo with dupatta and then tied her mouth... what nonsence... when she was doing it, what Jo kept silent? she could have shouted... somebody would have come to her rescue... there must be guards around , right? or r we supposed to think, Jo was so shocked, that she forgot shouting? sorry , i m not buying it... coz had she been so shocked, she couldn't have slapped Shenu... that too twice and ready for 3rd one...

look at Jallu... he showed real shock that Jo is held captive and so he was just rooted to spot ... no movement at all...

anyway... i feel, either shenu ll be killed in fight with Jo or she will be shown fake... or misled to believe that she is real Nigar... may be real Nigar died in front of CB's eyes, and so CB lost her mental balance and then one day MA spotted her and took her captive...and this girl, Shenu may be MCB's puppet, who was raised by that baandi, as per MCB's instructions, telling her that she is real Nigar and heir to throne... hope the truth will come out soon, but that means, CB is found and cured, and herself will reveal, that real Nigar is dead... so MA, Shenu both exposed...

i m praying this happens... but then it will be too much logical... and as i said... CVs have decided to give us logically illogical story... so????

Hehehe ... loved your post Diksha! If you thought the seminar was bad and took refuge in Jodha Akbar serial, then that really shows how bad the seminar was!😆😆😆😆😆
Agree with you yesterday's episode was a blooper-fest!
Accha, regarding the part I have marked in blue, I also think either Shehnaaz will be killed or else Chand begummay say this is not her daughter at all and is juts an impostor. In fact I was imagining something like this:
... that Jodha would kill Shehnaaz first and then only Jalal would enter the war himself (for he may refuse to fight a woman and that too his sisiter). But even though Jodha kills Shehnaaz and then Jalal enters there may this horrible feeling they have that there will forever be this daag on them that they killed a sister. Only when Chand begum declares that this was not her daughter at all will Jodha and Jalal feel freed from that "daag".
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: minnie2308

I quite agree with you regarding portrayals. ... Jo is what she is. And I have always maintianed that she worked as per her default settings.
The problem with this relation is it looks like Jo wears the pants or the Jamas or whatever... No..No please dont jump on me. But haven't we noticed Jo is less concerned with regards to earning Jalal's ire when she decides to take a stand, while Jalal mostly tries to take a stand to suit Jo's whims and fancies sometimes against his better judgement.
Offcourse subject to the fact that their relation is going fine. For example while forgiving Bakshi and Shariff, he did that against his own predecided judgement.(Jo- Jalal were singing songs around trees that time)
Forgiving Ruq again was against his initial judgement.
Letting Shehnaaz stay in the regular residential quarters after what she did to Rahim
Now letting TM be blown to shreds against his better judgement?
Also, regarding gettting angry for taking a stand, I am sure Jo would have been angry if Jalal refused to agree to her or if he had declared TM 'not guilty' or declared that he wants to search Shehnaaz's room as he thinks Shehnaaz is not what she seems to be...btw..the farmaan was lying quite handy should someone had decided to search for it.


Exactly, Jo is no wisdom ki devi, she is immature and impulsive, but Jalal is shown to be just as impusive and immature plus unable to take a stand, getting swayed by every jo, maham and ruk...uska koi wajood hi nahin bacha hai... If in this matter he took a stand and let Jo be angry, that would have been a saving grace. Eventually he would have done investigation and truth would have come out... Jo would have been sorry to have not trusted his judgement. But to accept a wrong argument just so that Jo does not get angry is simply stupid, it does not make you a good husband. Is their relationship/ love so weak that it cannot stand a difference of opinion!!! Which is why i am hating what CVs have turned Jalal into
Edited by chitterati - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Hehehe ... loved your post Diksha! If you thought the seminar was bad and took refuge in Jodha Akbar serial, then that really shows how bad the seminar was!😆😆😆😆😆
Agree with you yesterday's episode was a blooper-fest!
Accha, regarding the part I have marked in blue, I also think either Shehnaaz will be killed or else Chand begummay say this is not her daughter at all and is juts an impostor. In fact I was imagining something like this:
... that Jodha would kill Shehnaaz first and then only Jalal would enter the war himself (for he may refuse to fight a woman and that too his sisiter). But even though Jodha kills Shehnaaz and then Jalal enters there may this horrible feeling they have that there will forever be this daag on them that they killed a sister. Only when Chand begum declares that this was not her daughter at all will Jodha and Jalal feel freed from that "daag".

But Mansi, sorry to interrupt but I don't think Jodha will ever kill Shehnaz unless she comes to know that she is not Humayun's daughter or shall I say CB's daughter. Till such time she is under the wrap of Nigar, neither Jodha nor Jalal or anyone from Agra will kill her. All they may do will be disarm her and take her captive.
And since she had reveal the fact that even though Jalal had removed all the traces to reach CB, she had already seen or met her mother and will reach her soon. This should bell a ring in Jalal's mind that CB has been kept captive by someone for quite some time and he may discuss this with his mother and that should trigger some last memory in her and she should atleast doubt Maham now and reveal the truth of her following Maham to some cave in the dense forest...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi Great post!
The episode was fine, and Shehnaaz's pardafash was highly undramatic as I expected it to be very dramatic, but I'm glad it's over and done.

Poor Rahim, I'm feeling terrible for the poor guy!

I'm happy now we have our war sequence coming up and some action.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akanksha_33

Mansi Great post!

The episode was fine, and Shehnaaz's pardafash was highly undramatic as I expected it to be very dramatic, but I'm glad it's over and done.

Poor Rahim, I'm feeling terrible for the poor guy!

I'm happy now we have our war sequence coming up and some action.

Yes be ready for Dandiya Ras!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

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