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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: deejagi

Guys for all of those who feel how could Jodha allowed Shenu to outsmart her and kept her captive, here is an answer.

I had seen a movie where the heroine comes home with bandages and her father asked her what happened and for that the girl responds skeptically that there was a girl who quarreled with her and they ended up fighting. The father asked her but how could you get hurt when you are Karate Black Belt holder and the mere answer was that "Yes, I am I Karate Black belt but that girl was not and even though I fought systematically , That girl didn't follow any rules" 😆😆
The logic is Jodha was trained warrior while Shenu was with brutal power and evilness which is way too strong than Jodha's training.

😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: skanda12

When are you going to give me the Nobel Prize for "Valiant Praise in the Face of Pathetic Episode"?😃



Mansi, i gave you Maddi thread, Mood freshner Award.😃 😃 😃 😃

(Thread name, Random thought,)😆 😆 😆 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: ayushimehra



Neesha, Good & logiccally points.

scene was this type, jodha own interested, Sh;;;;;;;;az come & bind Me.😆 😆.

i am ready for Binding,😆 😆.

Yes sh;;;;;;;;;az speaked truth, Actually, sh;;;;;;;;;;;;az type people aware us, Not belive,
easily,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but if we see practically, in own life,sometime we belive wrong people,
after, when we, know then learn,

But sh;;;;;;;;;;;az type people, does wrong, some people realy, Mentely disblance, they need
Good people, but some time they also watched, in a suspection way.

problem is Cheating innerside.So sometime everyone is Right in own place.


Yes Ayushi,

Very true.. We also misjudge many people in our daily lives. and what to say about Jodha-Shehnaaz scene..less said the better.. very poorly directed and acted also..as you say.. I am ready for being hand cuffed..atleast it looked like that..Hope someone from JA team stalks our forum and read our opinions.. I only now hope against hope that they show us good war scenes not poorly executed ones. Hope so.. Also JA team need good animators.. Mahachuchakls animated army was so tiny .. it was funny actually. What speech did she give.. that too seemed very funny to me.. Yesterday they showed a different palace also... The entire Kabul scenes are comedy cum horror circus for me... Ayushi, tell me one thing.. you say Shehnaaz wil fight on Jalals side ??.. how come ..now to Jodha and Shenu will fight with each other ..isn't it.??.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64
Great positive analysis for this pathetic direction..! 👍🏼
Its a good phase of track as a episode..I couldn't enjoy peculiar shots too , something was badly missing all these days..😒
JJ scene: Jalal couldn't accept the fact about TM current fiasco ..His soul no where leaving him space to show TM in ugly mask..As a king he can do better personal involvement in this issue finding out the real culprit ..It will be a treat to watch if this exposure takes place by Jalal ...I don't want to see this Jalal pulling up his anger through his sword session...Its been a year , we want some character growth not a flexible sketch for each episode.. we are discussing like a hell but cv's just flashing their ideas in a simple way...Shehnaaz track , dragged for more than months , but her exposure looks flat and lame...Poor execution..😔
Shehnaaz's exposure takes place in a lame way..It could have been better, I expected Jo's action but its a turn for Shehnaaz...She is a soldier who fought so with so many enemies at a time..Cv's plz remember we are following each episodes with full memory..😆
Initial days , we could got this sort of episodes too , in Maham clone case Jalal was the one who sorted out independently in his own way..Right now they totally moving for a sake of race..😒
Loved Rahim and Jallu scene..The way he rushed at a right spot hints given by him to save Jodha...😊
Loved ur theory regards war sequence...Only after war sequence MA , Ruku phardafash will be done..Unless it looks messy..
Meanwhile , I guess MA will get to know about Shehnaaz self exposure , may be she will rush to shift CB to another place..This was the case where Jodha way in handling issues in a smooth way , there is a high chance shehnaaz getting killed during war ..If at all misunderstanding getting cleared b/w Jalal and Shehnaaz that it was not becoz of him , CB kept as a captive for many yearswhich will be done by Jodha... All this trios JoJa along with Shehnaaz may shake hands in exposing MA...If this was supposed to happen , only when she will come to know about MA who kept his mom as a captive..Unless it won't be done too..🤔
Again another chance of shehnaaz getting killed during war as predicted..As there no signs of shehnaaz part in historical facts..


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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
👏👏 assum analysis👏👏
time for quick action...itna quick ki kuch palle he nhe padha😆
Edited by nini06 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66
Nice analysis mansi for so much pheeka pheeka episode. Like your prediction but kabul army can not arrive so much soon. When distance between agra to amer is about 3 days it is kabul . It is much more far away . Khair cvs ki cvs jaane unhone kab logic dikhana hai.
Episode was very pheeka pheeka and there were also so many loopholes in the episode. We all thought shehnaz truth will come out in some dramatic way but it was so simple and very poor directed also. Jodha was looking so weak infront of shehnaz why she did not defend her. She is a trained warrior. She could fought adham soilder but not shehnaz its look quite strange. And how would she get farmaan? Nobody know about the farmaan and if she has already farmaan why she didnot show this to jalal earlier. For what thing she was waiting . Yesterday episode was full of so many bloopers .
Thanks for pm me mansi
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67
Hi friends... congrats to all of us... now CVs have started giving us Logically Illogical episodes...and we all r enjoying it and discussing like we got something really worth...

actually, what we got? except for 2 tight slaps by Jo, what was there? both our leads showing consistency in being dumb... by now we r used to it... MA showing her overconfidence... we r used to it...MCB acting abnormal and getting to our nerves... we r used to it...

yes... there was something new... Adham , for the first time asked the right question... and i liked it... but then MA joined the elite dumbo club of our leads with her overconfidence, and he was back to himself... so let's discount him too...

now remain Rahim and Shenu... so Rahim... where that small devil got those headless dolls? did he search in shenu's room? as far as i remember, Shenu had broken them around a month back... so how he got it? weren't those dolls thrown away assuming broken by Shenu? or were they kept safe as symbols of our leads? but why need symbolism? if Rahim really want 'Headless' Shehenshah and his fav begum, he should just go and see our leads... they r founder members of that dumbo club... he can get original, why to look for duplicate?

sorry guys... taking out all my frustration here... my seminar today was disaster... the one who took it, doesn't know how to communicate with his colleagues , forget replying their questions, and he was not even prepared... i just reported to organizers and congratulated them for wasting my 2 hrs, and came back leaving it...

anyway, back to our show... so Shenu managed to tie Jo with dupatta and then tied her mouth... what nonsence... when she was doing it, what Jo kept silent? she could have shouted... somebody would have come to her rescue... there must be guards around , right? or r we supposed to think, Jo was so shocked, that she forgot shouting? sorry , i m not buying it... coz had she been so shocked, she couldn't have slapped Shenu... that too twice and ready for 3rd one...

look at Jallu... he showed real shock that Jo is held captive and so he was just rooted to spot ... no movement at all...

anyway... i feel, either shenu ll be killed in fight with Jo or she will be shown fake... or misled to believe that she is real Nigar... may be real Nigar died in front of CB's eyes, and so CB lost her mental balance and then one day MA spotted her and took her captive...and this girl, Shenu may be MCB's puppet, who was raised by that baandi, as per MCB's instructions, telling her that she is real Nigar and heir to throne... hope the truth will come out soon, but that means, CB is found and cured, and herself will reveal, that real Nigar is dead... so MA, Shenu both exposed...

i m praying this happens... but then it will be too much logical... and as i said... CVs have decided to give us logically illogical story... so????
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi, Mansi, Good Analysis, Good prediction.


Episode was, CV, own not knows, which he wants to show us, so he put a Math paper in front of us;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Audience solve it, acc to Your wisdom, other wise, Which we are showing, Accept that.😆 😆


1, jodha is worring in dream, Stroam has stopped, now, but Diya, is not burning,

(Means, jodha should recheck;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But mind says, which decesion, has taken Right,
because acc to jodha, sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az, is a mentely, disturbed girl, But incidence, awaring Jodha, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But heart, & mind fighting,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;If this situation comes in life
person confuses;;;;;;;;;;;;;;she own not knows what is wrong, or what is right.?


So jodha is also, fighting with inner feelings;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;& its take time.



2, she goes to Where jalal is practiseing, through BALA (weapon );;;;;;;;;;He is also fighting with inner feelings;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Because his concious is also indicating, ;;;;;;;;something is going to happen wrong;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But what, because Proofs, against TM.

3; Jodha gives him prasad;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but talks not happens;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;sometimes
when husband wife knows thoughts not same, so siealance happens,;;;;;;;;;because both are Right on their place.;;;;;;;;;;;so better, disputes, or MU, will happen, space create,;;;;;;;;;;

(so both created space.)

4,Because, jodha, beliving TM is culprit,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so her mind not thinking, if TM wants to
molest, he can, does this Mathura,Why he waited for Agra, but this staze our mind own ans
maybee, he not spaced at Mathura.So she decide to go to sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az


5,;;Jodha sees sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;az is not a Mad,

Here jodha should be shown active, but she belives own, (not bad, this thought ), she feeled she will tackle sh;;;;;;;;az, but, sh;;;;;;az, Fast, & binded jodha, with a cloth, (mouth, & hands)


6;;;Sh;;;;;;az is also not brave, she own speaked whole truth, Audience were accepting,

Truth will out, BIG DRAMA, but, Simply truth revealed ,( feels CV on tired this track😆)

7;;Maham & AK making own Khiddhi, But here confused, if MC will attack Agra, How Ak will get Delhi takhat, so why Maham is happy.?

, 8;;, Jalal also confusing, because His consious again & again, Alerting, something wrong is happening,;;;;;;;;;;;so as a King he should investigate this case More, Why he punished TM soon, Zakira is in Zail, So TM should be sent jail & case should be studied again,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

But this logic of CV, not understanding.?


9;;;i think after Listening, Rahim, & seeing damaging Dolls, jalal went, jodha hozara, to discussed, again this point, but maybee he decided to watch, sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;az again, so he went sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az hozara, where scene was different,

so suddenely he shocked, ( This scene should be pictouried, Alertfully, but scene was weak )

But jodha did own efforts, & speaked whole truth about sh;;;;;;;;;;az ) so as a person, he was listening, talks of sh;;;;;;;;;;;az,

10,;;;;If he claps, calling, dassies, sh;;;;;;;;;;az attack on jodha which should not happen.

11;;;;sh;;;;;;;;;;;;az is saying she is daughter of CB, if jalal kills her attendum, How sh;;;;;az truth will be out;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so sh;;;;;;;;;az Aliveness is necessary.

12;;;;Because sh;;;;;;;;;;az is big sister of jalal, if he kills sh;;;;;;az, All awam will be against jalal, he not want to give share of sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az, so here Jodha decesion was Right.

13;;;;So, sh;;;;;;;;;az Ran away, & kidnapped Rahim, Poor Rahim.

Lack of awareness, Agra is facing this situation.

Now ques Rise here.

We saw dresses, War out fit, because, Rahim is kidnapped, by female, so all femals
will fight, OR MC Army also reached Agra, & War is going to happen BIG.😕 😕


But if War is Big, How CB will be free, & Maham truth will be out?

it means, maybee CB will free, this week, but she has lost her memories.

But cause of Hakkim her memory will be fine, Sh;;;;;;;;;;;az will be fight on jalal side, & after killed by MC,😕 😕

But as you wrote, Ruk truth, will be out, How?, because Ruk is also War out fit showing.😕 😕







Awesome post, Ayushi ...👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: chitterati

Great post for a not so great episode, as much as i love your writing, JA has lost its X factor for me, i might as well be watching any other soap which will have similiar twists and turns(if not more logical ones). Characters of Jodha and Jalal have become mere pawns at the hands of CVs who change their persona according to the storyline instead of having story being shaped out of what these magnificient people were when this journey started.

I can live with Jodha's potrayal, she was always impulsive, strong headed, fearless. Too soon to trust and just as quick to misjudge. And she has been consistent in standing up for what she believed in, no matter what the price. We may hate it, but that is who she is. And frankly i would rather have a queen potrayed as a fiery, strong headed person who gives two hoots to DEK niceties than a spineless doll who will be a silent witness to her husband decisions, right or wrong. And although she was way off the mark on Shehnaaz, woh kehte hain na "girte hain shai savaar hi maidaane jung mein... Woh kya girenge jo ghutno ke bal chaltein hain" atleast she took a stand (which btw was based on layers of illusions created by Shehnaaz) and stood her ground, even it meant going against Jalal.

Its Jalal that cant seem to tolerate especially after seeing him give a cold shoulder to Jo yesterday. I mean she may have argued for Shehnaaz but Jalal took the decision. Jo never pressurised him into taking a hasty decision, she did not attempt to influence his decision outside of DEK. He could have sought more time, kept Todarmal in jail for a while if he was so convinced of his innocense. He failed on so many levels in this track ... He failed as a ruler who could not judge right from wrong. He failed as a friend who did not stand by Todarmal, and he failed as a husband when he intermingled his reponsibilites as a husband, king and friend and blamed Jo for a decision that he took.

How can he be sooo helpless, if he cant stand up for a friend whom he knows to be innocent how can he be just to his awam?

Husband wife support each other, not by supporting wrong decisions but by reflecting on corrective measure. When Jalal was blindly trusting Ben, Jo confronted him even if it meant bearing brunt of his anger. If Jalal was sure of Todarmal's innocense why did he not uncover the truth himself. If he knew Jo was wrong why did he make matters worse by commiting a bigger wrong. And about his gussa on Jo, he is all appreciative and lovey when Jo asks him to forgive his Jaan begum and his dear sister... The one time she goes against him he gets all worked up!!!! What kind of a partrnership is this.

You have to forget all logic, bury your sense of right and wrong and forgive all kinds of bloopers ... and then watch the serial!😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: neeshaa16


Yes Ayushi,

Very true.. We also misjudge many people in our daily lives. and what to say about Jodha-Shehnaaz scene..less said the better.. very poorly directed and acted also..as you say.. I am ready for being hand cuffed..atleast it looked like that..Hope someone from JA team stalks our forum and read our opinions.. I only now hope against hope that they show us good war scenes not poorly executed ones. Hope so.. Also JA team need good animators.. Mahachuchakls animated army was so tiny .. it was funny actually. What speech did she give.. that too seemed very funny to me.. Yesterday they showed a different palace also... The entire Kabul scenes are comedy cum horror circus for me... Ayushi, tell me one thing.. you say Shehnaaz wil fight on Jalals side ??.. how come ..now to Jodha and Shenu will fight with each other ..isn't it.??.


Neesha, i wrote my post, if CB memory will be come, &she will say, sh;;;;;;;az, TM , is that person, who behaved, me well mannered, & i reached, place, Right,Form,

Then Sh;;;;az will feel, Guilt, &Fighting with MC, she will fight jalal side, Knowing jalal has no falut.

Because, if she remains Alive, jalal will give,Takhat, to sh;;;;;az, but if we see acc to his,
Akbar, Ruled over Delhi & Agra.



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