Another paigam from Jodha to Jalal ... thankfully read by Moti! - Page 8

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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: skanda12

I think you've gotone aspect slightly wrong. She was not vachan bound just to hide Sujamal's name, but she was vachan bound not to reveal Sujamal's existence in Agra at all.



Mansi,

Would add some points here.

1. Can't EVEN think of Jodha pushing Maham Anga.😳😉, like Adham did with Atga.😕 MA is the current star of the show, who makes Jalal dance to her tunes, and we expect Jodha to push her aside and go to Jalal.?. She TRIED TWICE, but thanx to the WICKED rage of MA, she had to retreat. Even Jalal refused the meeting when MA told her later.!.

2. Jodha BLAMED HERSELF, that it is my fault that i could not create "bharosa" in the mind of Shahenshah. Where did she blame him more.?. She even wrote - "Aapki galti nahi hai Shahenshah".


3. Mansi, Sorry for this point. Here i am using a negative LOGIC. (We study this in Discrete Mathematics.😆)

Jalal caught Sujamal in night only. I expected him to question Suja at night itself. He caught the "supposed" lover of his wife, and waited till morning.😲 Not Done.!.🥱 Had he been questioned then and there. Surely the MU would have been resolved. What are CV's doing here.?.😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72


Just like I wait for you r post about episode, when I write a reply - I wait for you reaction to that 😆 It means a lot to me.

Splendid point about Jalal confusion - I hope its misleading and he does NOT ask for Ruk's opinion.

I think now - maybe Jalal walks out of Jodha's hojara in a daze, goes to Tulsi paudha and SB asked him why he upset and he will tell her he doubted Jo, told her to leave and Jo left and what she said in her letter. Maybe then SB will tell him he should follow while Ruk will just come uninvited to tell him not to go 😡

Hope so cos I WANT HIM TO STOP DISCUSSING JODHA WITH MA & RUK
😡😡😡

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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: skanda12

I think you've gotone aspect slightly wrong. She was not vachan bound just to hide Sujamal's name, but she was vachan bound not to reveal Sujamal's existence in Agra at all.

A slight correction here, (don't get irritated) she was not only Vachan bound to keep Sujamal's identity & his existance in Agra but also about the conspiracy going within Jalal's close circle to kill him. Sujamal didn't want her to leak this to anyone, so that his whole exercise goesin vain asthe conspirer might get alert.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Joja

I am in a state now that I cant stand Jodha even for a minute.

There was time i used to wait for Jo-Ja scenes, Now it's become repulsive for the way she behaves.

Where on earth does the CVs get such pathetic ideas.

What Vachan has Jalal not followed. Is there any vachan in any culture which says, you go with some unknown men in midnight without letting anyone know. even after your husband asks lie to him. After all these husband should still trust ..

But infact isnt there a vachan that husband-wife should not hide anything from each other, Then what was Jodha devi doing? Did she follow all her promise?

She is very selective vachan following lady.

Even if there is a vachan to trust each other,,, Has she done it. How many times hasnt she blamed him.. skll.. mauka ka faida... daasi ko bhi nahe chodthe.. and the list goes one...

Did she even accept once that it was her mistake to hide the truth from her husband?

Jodha turning the table on Jalal as if its all his mistake is heights. Understand she is hurt and any women accused by her husband of adultry will not take it. But Jalal had all the reason. How many times he asked her, he literally begged to tell her trust. He gave all assurance. If she didn't trust her husband, if she gave the stupid vachan to her brother. Whose mistake is it, is it Jalal's or Jodhas?

I would just say you need two hands to clap. Both are at fault here for selective following of vachans and indeed for the whole fracas. It doesn't help the situation to blame one and exonerate the other.
For that matter we can start complaining from the very first point where this distrust issue began ... Jalal did not even double-check if Sujamal did indeed backstab his brothers in war and he issued a farman for Sujamal's life which then became the whole reason for Jodha having to hide her visits to Sujamal, which then made Jalal suspicious, which then made Jodha lie which then ... it goes on and on.
In all conflicts you seldom get a good analysis if you start looking backwards at the cause of a problem. Solutions always appear if you can start from the future.
What do we want to happen now to restore faith and trust on both sides, should be the question.
What is the point in looking backwards and looking to play the blame game. It is far more sagacious to look forward, accept both people may have had faults and start anew on a trust footing.
That's how all the conflicts are usually mediated by wise people!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: Fagune09

Really loved reading your analysis!!! Hope this separation track brings out protective and possessive streaks in Jalal...also it would wonderful to see both jodha and Jalal learning the importance of each other in their life.

Hope your wishes come true!😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: skanda12

I would just say you need two hands to clap. Both are at fault here for selective following of vachans and indeed for the whole fracas. It doesn't help the situation to blame one and exonerate the other.
For that matter we can start complaining from the very first point where this distrust issue began ... Jalal did not even double-check if Sujamal did indeed backstab his brothers in war and he issued a farman for Sujamal's life which then became the whole reason for Jodha having to hide her visits to Sujamal, which then made Jalal suspicious, which then made Jodha lie which then ... it goes on and on.
In all conflicts you seldom get a good analysis if you start looking backwards at the cause of a problem. Solutions always appear if you can start from the future.
What do we want to happen now to restore faith and trust on both sides, should be the question.
What is the point in looking backwards and looking to play the blame game. It is far more sagacious to look forward, accept both people may have had faults and start anew on a trust footing.
That's how all the conflicts are usually mediated by wise people!



Mansi you are on fire today 👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: skanda12

Nandini you have to thank Ela for this news from Zee. And this kind of news is not in the forum posts, it comes to me from Ela SMS and phone calls!😆


Ok thank her on my behalf . Tell her a girl called Nandini is very great flu to her 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Mansi,

Would add some points here.

1. Can't EVEN think of Jodha pushing Maham Anga.😳😉, like Adham did with Atga.😕 MA is the current star of the show, who makes Jalal dance to her tunes, and we expect Jodha to push her aside and go to Jalal.?. She TRIED TWICE, but thanx to the WICKED rage of MA, she had to retreat. Even Jalal refused the meeting when MA told her later.!.

2. Jodha BLAMED HERSELF, that it is my fault that i could not create "bharosa" in the mind of Shahenshah. Where did she blame him more.?. She even wrote - "Aapki galti nahi hai Shahenshah".


3. Mansi, Sorry for this point. Here i am using a negative LOGIC. (We study this in Discrete Mathematics.😆)

Jalal caught Sujamal in night only. I expected him to question Suja at night itself. He caught the "supposed" lover of his wife, and waited till morning.😲 Not Done.!.🥱 Had he been questioned then and there. Surely the MU would have been resolved. What are CV's doing here.?.😕




Abhay 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada


Ok thank her on my behalf . Tell her a girl called Nandini is very great flu to her 🤗



Great Flu .?. 😲

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