Another paigam from Jodha to Jalal ... thankfully read by Moti! - Page 9

Originally posted by: sreev12

Abhay 👏

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Abhay:

Just wanted to know if historically these two facts are supported:

a. Did Jodha really go off into some jungle after she was accused by Jalal of having an affair with Sujamal etc.? Did she go to Vrindavan jungle? Is this whole track supported by real history?

b. Does any attempted kidnap of Jodha take place done by Sharif? If yes, does Jalal foil it? And in fact, my doubt is: when does Sharif stop living at Agra and go off to do his plotting from some safe distance? In the movie he is shown as staying somewhere else but in this serial so far he has been loitering inside the palace at Agra!

Originally posted by: skanda12

Abhay and Sree, I agree with your points. But by way of explanation what I thought was that jalal did not question Sujamal at night itself because he was just recovered from unconsciousness, and who knows he may have blabbered something wrong if he was not fully in his senses? So it was safer to let him sleep off the night and check only the next morning.

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Abhay:

Just wanted to know if historically these two facts are supported:

a. Did Jodha really go off into some jungle after she was accused by Jalal of having an affair with Sujamal etc.? Did she go to Vrindavan jungle? Is this whole track supported by real history?

b. Does any attempted kidnap of Jodha take place done by Sharif? If yes, does Jalal foil it? And in fact, my doubt is: when does Sharif stop living at Agra and go off to do his plotting from some safe distance? In the movie he is shown as staying somewhere else but in this serial so far he has been loitering inside the palace at Agra!

Originally posted by: history_geek

I will write as per the info which i have at PRESENT.


a.

She was suspected but that was a brief MU, and resolved when Akbar asked her. The other inmates of harem DID try to falsely implicate her😳(names of those inmates are unknown to me.😕). She was NOT banished.



b.

Sharif leaves and runs away, after that attack on Jalal in Delhi, most probably. But Not sure.
Yes there will be another arrow attack on Jalal, in Delhi, by a servant of Sharif, named Faulad.😕
This is as per movie.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/103073052

No kidnap attempt heard off. Sharif stayed in Agra ONLY. The show is correct. Read this OLD update. It will be clear.


If i remember correctly, in the movie, Sharif was shown staying in the Ajmer Fort in Rajputana. And, as per the movie the time-period was 1562-63.

But as per Mughal accounts, Akbar constructed this in 1570. 😉
So, how come Sharif reside there in 1562-63 itself, as per movie.?.?.(when even the palace was not there..!!...)

Hope this cleared some air.

Also, Even though Adham Khan was ALSO a subedar of Malwa, BUT he also stayed in Agra.

Originally posted by: skanda12

Thanks so much Abhay. So it clear that all this is "uchit naatakiya rupantar" by Ekta and team?

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

MANSI I liked yesterday episode,

we got ans why jodha not said single word to jalal, when jalal was extreem angry mood.

letter was good, jodha's deep pain feeling, when Moti was reading, Moti did her job greatfully

she read that letter, meaningfully, everyword come from jodha's heart.

yes you wrote she choosed Moti for this, because, this situation, Moti can do perfectely which jodha &situations wants.( i liked she choosed Moti, because Hamida & salima never visted jodha's hozara, so little gap i feel, this realtionship also, because jodha as begum, of Mughal

king ;

is Hamida duty is not to come to jodha & ask what's the matter?

I agree Ayushi, this hamida and Salima never even came to see Jodha or called her to ask for explanations! So why should she choose them to read out her paigam?

Manivati when refused jodha you not come Amer, if you some problem with your husband

then Hamida praised, Manivati,so why Hamida is so sielant now, sameSalima you are saying jodha is your sister (is big sister behaves like this, i think NO)

Excellent point!👏👏👏👏

Kanha was not jodha's Hozara, so this is a big thing for jalal,

He is dreaming, jodha will forgive him, ( but not easy this time, actually, so long ,reaction jalal created, so some silance automatically will come otherside)

trust has been broken jodha's again again, so now she has gone to deep pain sielance staze,

&she took decesion leave Agra.(this gap will now, learn both of them many things)

her these words, very meaning ful, if you respect me little, you not sent behind me,

soliders, because if your soliders caught me, you will get your begum, NOT JODHA

so if jalal want jodha, he should do now efforts.

Yes, now jalal has no choice, he has to hunt for her himself, not with soldiers!😆😆😆

you listen which i say, you understand, which you wants to understand , very deep meaning, this line ( so now understanding journey will start)

you forget which you promise, me marraige time first phere, but i remember, so accepting that , no obation, for me, so i have to go. (now learning will come, what means Marriage?)

she says through letter everyword which she wants to say, she accepted, she is feeling some love, but you suspection breake that.

i not acchieved your trust, this is troubling me, so not any reason, why i live here?

so this indicates, now true journey will start.

I agree with you, instead of rehashing the old mistakes a new start has to be made here!

yes agree, How many times she will prove? anything has limit, supoose she not tell who is

that man, it not means, you will forget, which she already did for you, you needed some patiance ( her leaving is must this time;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;suppose this time she is talking with brother, sometimes maybee another she can talk then this situation will come, then again he

will say leave;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;marraige is not a fun,everytime Why you needed proof? she belongs to Ragvanci culture, her promise is also big, he should think, any other reason, she not telling me.)

your security, your cheap realtives, bring this situation, you should.. needed to check themselves. Agree, she is not telling, asking you again again you also feeling pain,

but it not means;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;her character is wrong.

Exactly!

so jalal was thinking what happened, &he leaves jodha's hozara.

Ruk & maham using this situation for own profit.

jodha is in village, takes sides of jalal, & thinks why she is thinking for jalal, who pained her

( you have starting feelings for jalal)

Both are thinking for eachother, both feel pain, for eachother, but both are not accepting

so now i think true love journey willbe started.

Maham is telling sharrif, jodha has left, so now sharrif plotting will maybee start, because

jalal is going Amer, sujamal will also know this, then both will save jodha if sharrif will kidnapped jodha.

Even if Sujamal doesn't come at least Jalal should do some big herogiri!