Take 5: Top 5 for Feb 28th - Page 6

Originally posted by: adianasr

Divya, this was not a filler and TE is not playing with either Jodha or Ruqs.

Lets look at Jodha - She came to Agra with hatred and refused to be a part of Agra initially. Slowly she realised that she had clubbed all to be bad. Yet she kept aloof. Also she had always referred to Ruqs as TE's wife - never thought of herself as his wife (this is very different from thinking of him as her husband).

Though Jodha changed her belief about the Mughals and TE, she still did not think of herself as his wife, for her only Ruqs has that position - perhaps this may be why 'The Night' resulted in the 'Shove' and the next morning he was accused of SKLL - for her it perhaps was and she closed herself to his words - I can now see the line of events and somewhere TE also has realised it - which is why he stopped referring to the 'Dhakka' - The Khema incident gave him proof of Jodha's convoluted thinking!!!

So though Jodha has changed her mind about all at Agra she is still on the kinara testing the waters - Jab tak paani mei koodegi nahin she will never belong - always remain the outsider - She has given advice to TE that he has to be a part of his ppl to be their Emperor but Apne uper yeh advice Madam Jodha ne apply nahin kiya - TE is just making her do this - He is pushing her into the water so that she can start swimming (The best way to make the reluctant swim)

As long as Jodha does not look on herself as TE's wife and take her place as such she will always keep him at arms length - Toh pehle TE has to get Jodha to realise that she is as much his wife and has rights on him as does Ruqs - tab kahin jaake woh TE ko uske haq degi (tab tak yeh durr durr ka romance jhelna hi padega)

Coming to Ruqs - She too needs to realise that in a polygamous situation she cannot claim sole rights as wife. And this is where the problem lies - she has managed to make all the others to feel like they are interlopers and the third wheel when infact she shd have made them all feel equal as TE's wives. TE is just making her realise that just as she has her rights on him so do the other wives and just as he needs to give them those rights so too do they need to claim it - Kisi ko right dene se sab khatam nahin ho jaata they also need to claim their right and its only when we claim our right will we do our duty with happiness in our heart - warna duty becomes a burden.

So the lesson for Ruqs is that she cannot claim sole rights as wife - sharing is mandatory - and its this reason why Ruqs has become what she has - and this lesson in humility is very much needed - and TE does realise that Ruqs can become vicious which is why I do feel that for all that it seemed he was stoking Ruqs making her anti-Jodha he will make sure Jodha has his protection from all of Ruqs viciousness.

Originally posted by: Arieltabi

I was waiting for ur post today divya.

Thanks and thanks so much for posting!

I love today's epi. I love all the 5 takes u wrote.

Salima-Ruk scene was the best. Rukku really needed that. For gods sake she is just not another begum of Jalal. She is also a mughal princess like her. And most importantly her elder sister. Ruks should learn to respect the elders.

It was an awesome scene!

I think Jalal is preparing Jodha for bigger challenges . As he knows she will be MUZ. Then she has to handle the whole india. So he wants to see how she handle the Harem.

I hope this is training for MUZ😉

And I guess he also wants to teach Rukku a lesson .As she has taken harem and BEK title for granted. She thinks she is the only one who can handle harem. No one can do that. So she is behaving rudely with everyone.
I love the last part. I really like ur point 4. Love ur point of view on this scene.
I really love complex characters. I love those characters which make me confuse, which surprise me. That's the reason I love Jalal. But for a long time my complex and teda Jalal was lost. But today looks like my teda Jalal is back. Hope he remains like this. 😊

Yes, we should celebrate the return of teda Jalal. 😊

Originally posted by: rima4ever

i also felt the same divya

i also felt that he was instigating jodha

so that she stands up tomorrow

he also instigated ruq

i did not understand why he warned ruq

fabulous analysis

Originally posted by: Gem12

Originally posted by: albakry

Great analysis, yesterday I couldn't post as I also was having problem logging in into IF server.
Regarding your last question, Jalal is cleverly preparing Ruqu for defeat. He knows Jodha will win as many people favour her. So he wants when it happens Ruqu to be prepared and accept gracefully

Originally posted by: tamy267

Divi I just caught the epi and don't know what to comment...I will again say there is noticeable changes in JA😕 the points u mentioned, I liked the same😳

Thanks and thanks for posting on your vacation ... I am now 😊 As everyone's posts clarified what Teda Jalal is up to

Loved how Jalal was pushing Jodha to stand up to be harem head..Jalal wants her to be the head..probably coz he wants Jodha to know each and every detail of the harem and Mughal culture..he is rooting for her😆 he wants his mohabbat get accustomed with everything...And also to excercise her rights of being khaas..he wants her to become a complete Mughal Begum..the head of everything..Salim Chisti's prediction probably still on his mind..so he is thinking if she becomes MUZ she must know and learn everything..and must tackle people like Ruqu..on the other hand he is also probing Ruqu..he is praising Jodha in front of her and trying to read her reactions...in these two scenes I feel Jalal is trying to see the difference b/w his two Begums...he is purposely doing this..probably he is enjoying the cat fight😉

Exactly right- this is MUZ training. I don't think it was just to see differences but also push Ruqs to challenge Jodha.

Regarding hand hold scene, I didnt feel anything coz it was not romantic at all nor it was done for romance purpose..but to show Ruqu her place..that's what I felt at least..Jalal had that arrogance In his voice and confidence in Jodha..He is sure Jodha will win in the election..and she will gracefully hand over the responsibilities to Ruqu too the next moment...Jalal also knows this..what he actually wants we will get to know next week..but one thing I am sure of is Jalal wants Jodha to win😳

good point- i think i initially paid too much attn on the hand holding

Loved Salima today...she told some brutal truth to Ruqu on her face..kudos!👏

Ruqu has completely lost it🤢

salima rocked today

P.S. loved Jalal's "kalse aapko bahut kaam karne hai Jodha Begum"😳

It was so cute- but she will have less time for Jalal 😭

P.S. good night! Only one more day left..I will be free from sunday😃

Enjoy your vacation while it lasts!

Originally posted by: divyavm

(1) Salima: I love how Salima stood up against Ruqs today, It was fantastic. I was noting yesterday that Ruks had lost her belief in love/heart based on her on life experience with Jalal. Loved it when Salima said that as she kept saying Jalal had no heart, she had hardened her own heart. 👏 I felt exactly the same yesterday ... Ruqs had lost her heart somewhere along the way and was clinging to the only thing she had, her audha.

-- Very insightful point (highlighted line). So true. Audha is all she is left with, because she did not put in effort to build relationships with anyone, even Jalal. She never tried to balance out Jalal and in turn helped their relationship grow more meaningfully. Both Ruq and Jalal are equally guilty of this. They were too similar in their ways. Only, Jalal got Jodha who showed him a different path. He need to be patient with Ruq and help her grow as well. But, I still feel that Ruq had more people around her than Jalal who was in war zone. She grew spoiled and that is because she became a queen very soon. Who will discipline the queen?

(2) Continuing comfort level of Akdha: I love it when Jodha gives Jalal a head massage. It is one of the only typical husband - wife things they do though they do it a lot 😆

--😳 All their interactions are always between a man and a woman, or a husband and a wife.

But I wish they move on from hands and heads. Come on CVs... give us a proper hug and a kiss.

(3) Jalal pushing Jodha to stand up to be harem lead: You could see how Jalal was using his teda ways to push Jodha to be harem lead and his guess that from tomorrow she will be very busy shows that he knows she will win. I always like Jalal's tedapan so that is why it made the list. On one hand, I wondered why he would want Jodha to be busy with the harem instead of spending time with him 😉 But then perhaps he wants Jodha to learn how to assert her rights against Ruqs both as a begum as well as his wife- meaning asserting her rights over him as she is still uncomfortable doing so.

--- very well put. 😃

(4) The Ruqs-Jalal scene: I know a lot of people were upset about the hand-holding- here is a slightly different take as I thought about it for a while, As a friend, Jalal owed her a visit. He also wants to teach her a lesson through this experience, I hope. However, here is my take in the hand-holding: Ruqs held her hand up that her challenger (referring to Jodha) will not last 5 days ... He held her hand down to show that her challenge will be defeated. I think in some ways he is trying to see if she will wake up and smell the roses but she continues to be adamantly arrogant so Jalal wants her to learn from her fall this time.

--- Hmmm.. good point. Jalal need to help Ruq grow out of her childishness. He owes her that much.

(5) Yeah, we are finally going to get a Maha-episode tomorrow ... Though I hate the topic, ME are always the most dramatic topics and the TRP driving audiences love drama. Loved Salima's smile when Jodha said she is willing to stand for the harem lead position in the precap. I wish Salima had stood for the position.

--- I am not sure ME is a good thing or a bad thing. 😕

With that, I am going to sign off with my top 5. What did you guys think of the episode- you can use this post for venting, don't worry!

Originally posted by: kmmdesai

My Dear Divya,

First of all sorry for the delay in posting. 😭

Beautiful analysis as usual. 👏

Replies are inline.

Love

Kshithi

Dear Kshithi,

Thanks so much for posting. Love your responses.

Saw your message that you will be offline for a few days- will miss you.

Best,

Divya