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divyavm

@divyavm

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: JeannieJA
Great positive analysis as always 👍🏼

Thanks and thanks for posting!

I loved the epi so not gonna vent

Good for you- I am starting to like it as well

Also sometimes its okay if we come out of an epi with 😕 expression, better confusing then predictable na

True, why else will we tune into the ME? 😆
With your posts, my 😕Is turning into a 😊

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divyavm

@divyavm

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: mandyg

divya, note the expression on jalal's face and the way he holds the hand..think about the symbolism here..ruq raises the hand in anger and jalal stops it by squeezing it lovingly..which means that he will not tolerate any nonsense coming from her anymore..and the more deserving will get what she has had so far! what say?

Good take! 👏I thought it was to show her challenge will be defeated. I like how you explained his expressions as well.

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: mandyg
maddy, i disagree! jalal is not using jodha as a punching bag...he knows she is capable, and why r u protecting jodha she is not a weakling she can very well take care of herself..and do not forget majority wanted jo over ruq..its not only jalal's decision!

Mandyg I agree with your point

I wrote on some other post, that I would have felt differently if WE DID NOT KNOW of future tracks
We know Sujamal is going to come (most idiot guy of JA😡) and somehow cos her more problems, Ruk & MA will be more vicious and somehow Jodha will get punished for meeting him
All the villians they keep piling, atleast get rid of ONE

So when we got all that akelepan ki akhari raat and all there are going to be more MUs

Why they showed Jalal giving chavi to Ruk? I hated the handlock though when I read Divyam's explanation felt better

Ok he gave chavi to Jo so she accepts but HE SHOULD not fan Ruk hatred of Jodha further
This is what I did not enjoy, cos he still thinks of Ruk as pampered child who needs to be given lollypops
How she talked with SB today, just like everybody is seeing Ruk when will Jalal? truly he is the ONLY can who can handle her but he is just going to bring more probs for Jodha

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AbHer_neha

@AbHer_neha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Great post Divya..👏..I m just copying my post from the other thread & posting it here.I loved today's episode. Why people are saying Jalal is adding fuel & taking Ruq's side???😕 I know many didn't like the last scene. But dear all just remember the two days before boat-ride incident...Ruq was hurt & after that this was his first meeting with Ruq & she's his best friend yaar...and his begum also...I know we don't like his physical proximity with Ruq but their relation can't be changed so easily. He's aware of his feelings towards Jodha & he knows Jodha also has begun to like him yet there is no direct confession & consent to live like hubby-wife. Once they openly confess to each-other & agree to progress in their relationship like a hubby-wife their love will become more intense. Don't take it otherwise but its a reality that physical proximity makes love more stronger. Then he'll surely feel physically detached from Ruq.😳

He was not shocked at people suggesting Jodha's name for the haram's supervisor. If he looks shocked in the precap then it may be misleading...he has full faith in Jodha's ability to manage the haram and when Jodha denied to take up the new responsibility he instigated her so that she could agree to take up that responsibility. When Jodha went, he said, "Sleep well Jodha begum, you have to do lots of work from tomorrow onwards..." What does it mean guys? He has actually started believing that Jodha will be the new "Mallika-e-Khaas".😳

Now the question arises why he went to Ruq. Friends, she's his friend. He don't want to let her down. She has been managing the haram for long & she's proved herself very well. Doing justice to his love he can't do injustice to his friendship. He's preparing Ruq for the competition as he wants fair competition b/w the two so that Ruq couldn't blame him for favouring Jodha. He knows Jodha is a strong fighter & he understands that Ruq might lose so he's preparing her for the defeat. If Ruq loses after fighting equally it won't hurt her more. I m loving this track. 😃

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Ashwini

@aashyagh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by aashyagh

Divya, I enjoyed the episode today, it was not a filler and Jalal is doing it, so that Jo takes care of responsibility. He cares for people now and he knows that you need to love and respect people to rule and it should not be with just power and arrogance.

Well said! The more I think of it, the episode was not that bad except the love story did not progress. Love your point on how Jalal now cares more for people and knows they need love and respect- that is the progress he has made.

I loved the last scene where Jalal very smartly gives it to Ruqu's and it is not because he doesn't care for her or because he loves Jo. He is actually behaving like one "Nyay priya and praja loving Emperor".

Very well said- loved the last sentence. Thanks for posting!

***i wouldn't say today that there was no progress in love story, there was, actually Jalal knows how to make Jo accept responsibilities and he trusts her that she can take up responsibilities, that is also a kind of progress in their relationship, he wants to give her power and position.

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MaddyO

@MaddyO

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: divyavm

Hi Medha- quite obvious you didn't like the episode. However, I have a slight difference in perspective though it was not a great episode by any means.

Jalal is not using Jodha as a punching bag by Ruqs ... It was not his idea to make Jodha harem warden ... Now Jalal wants to make sure Jodha takes the leadership opp and use her talents.

You are right, Jalal is blinded by his love for Ruqs, MA - but this is not new. He will stand up for Jodha as harem warden but she also needs to learn to fight for herself. She always stands up for herself in front of Jalal - it is about time she does it to others.👏👏👏👏

Do not let your thoughts about future MU worry you today- the CVs are unpredictable. We thought the boat ride would explode into a MU and it didn't. Take it one episode at a time, for your own sanity 😊

See Divyam how you and Mandyg made me feel good
You are right about I should not worry about MUs but kya kare CVs ne aadat daal di hai to thoda time legega!

I also like Mandyg explanation of the handlock but I HATED THAT Scene kya karu

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Divya, this was not a filler and TE is not playing with either Jodha or Ruqs.

Lets look at Jodha - She came to Agra with hatred and refused to be a part of Agra initially. Slowly she realised that she had clubbed all to be bad. Yet she kept aloof. Also she had always referred to Ruqs as TE's wife - never thought of herself as his wife (this is very different from thinking of him as her husband).

Though Jodha changed her belief about the Mughals and TE, she still did not think of herself as his wife, for her only Ruqs has that position - perhaps this may be why 'The Night' resulted in the 'Shove' and the next morning he was accused of SKLL - for her it perhaps was and she closed herself to his words - I can now see the line of events and somewhere TE also has realised it - which is why he stopped referring to the 'Dhakka' - The Khema incident gave him proof of Jodha's convoluted thinking!!!

So though Jodha has changed her mind about all at Agra she is still on the kinara testing the waters - Jab tak paani mei koodegi nahin she will never belong - always remain the outsider - She has given advice to TE that he has to be a part of his ppl to be their Emperor but Apne uper yeh advice Madam Jodha ne apply nahin kiya - TE is just making her do this - He is pushing her into the water so that she can start swimming (The best way to make the reluctant swim)

As long as Jodha does not look on herself as TE's wife and take her place as such she will always keep him at arms length - Toh pehle TE has to get Jodha to realise that she is as much his wife and has rights on him as does Ruqs - tab kahin jaake woh TE ko uske haq degi (tab tak yeh durr durr ka romance jhelna hi padega)

Coming to Ruqs - She too needs to realise that in a polygamous situation she cannot claim sole rights as wife. And this is where the problem lies - she has managed to make all the others to feel like they are interlopers and the third wheel when infact she shd have made them all feel equal as TE's wives. TE is just making her realise that just as she has her rights on him so do the other wives and just as he needs to give them those rights so too do they need to claim it - Kisi ko right dene se sab khatam nahin ho jaata they also need to claim their right and its only when we claim our right will we do our duty with happiness in our heart - warna duty becomes a burden.

So the lesson for Ruqs is that she cannot claim sole rights as wife - sharing is mandatory - and its this reason why Ruqs has become what she has - and this lesson in humility is very much needed - and TE does realise that Ruqs can become vicious which is why I do feel that for all that it seemed he was stoking Ruqs making her anti-Jodha he will make sure Jodha has his protection from all of Ruqs viciousness.

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Ashwini

@aashyagh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Very well said Adi and I share the same thoughts you are, 😉infact Jalal is very smart, he wants to give Jo both power and position with his love😳

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: aashyagh
Very well said Adi and I share the same thoughts you are, 😉infact Jalal is very smart, he wants to give Jo both power and position with his love😳

Ash more than any of this he wants Jodha to claim her position and rights just as she has taken on her duty.

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Tabassum

@Arieltabi

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+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#30

I was waiting for ur post today divya.
I love today's epi. I love all the 5 takes u wrote.
Salima-Ruk scene was the best. Rukku really needed that. For gods sake she is just not another begum of Jalal. She is also a mughal princess like her. And most importantly her elder sister. Ruks should learn to respect the elders.
I think Jalal is preparing Jodha for bigger challenges . As he knows she will be MUZ. Then she has to handle the whole india. So he wants to see how she handle the Harem.
And I guess he also wants to teach Rukku a lesson .As she has taken harem and BEK title for granted. She thinks she is the only one who can handle harem. No one can do that. So she is behaving rudely with everyone.
I love the last part. I really like ur point 4. Love ur point of view on this scene.
I really love complex characters. I love those characters which make me confuse, which surprise me. That's the reason I love Jalal. But for a long time my complex and teda Jalal was lost. But today looks like my teda Jalal is back. Hope he remains like this. 😊