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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

Hey dear, who said that Jo is not being bashed. I have seen her getting bashed left, right and centre since she entered Agra (particularly after her no apology on tiger attack case). But I would refrain from elaborating, as I said that this bitterness has seeped in so much, that for every big or small gesture, dialogue and action that happens between the leads, Jo and Jallu fans are up in arms.
No, In fact I loved his style of apologizing.😛 Loved when he said that I have nothing to gift you but only to ask you.
Honestly, when there is a televised love story, where a hero falls for a heroine faster than the heroine, it is natural to see the hero doing the running and wooing and the girl hurting him and not reciprocating his actions. In this case, it is a love story between Jodha and Akbar. The Emperor and his begum, so the tolerance level is low I feel😆
***Pallavi, actually the bhajan mandali is larger than Jalal's munni's here😆

Hey dear, I am a bigger Jo fan too😉😆 But that does not mean I seize every opportunity to criticize him, one there is none😛 I love my Akdha very much😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

I saw a complaint on another thread that the Diwan-e-Khas today did not look impressive, and that Jalal's apology did not sound as well as it should have. Probably they wanted him to go down on his knees for it! He looked and sounded very sincere and yet correct and restrained, and as for the apology, he did the same after the dature ka ark matter was solved. It was very good of him to have done it then, and it is the same now. As for the DEK, it is always of the same size and has roughly the same number of attendees.

***How else should Jalal give an apology?? Should he send members in public for announcement?? Jodha didn't even apologise privately as well when she was responsible for tiger attack, nor she was sorry about telling him to die outside Amer😕, but Jalal should be more sorry? Seriously, I think sometimes, people's thoughts gets limited

I agree, Jalal was genuine when he apologised. An emperor asking sorry itself is a big things. And when he asked sorry he really meant it and that was shown in his eyes and expressions.

I am happy and liked the episode.

I completely agree with tiger attack. Jodha didnt even apologise once, forget asking even her actions were no where near apologistic.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Look at this way, Pallavi, Mandy and Peepu.

Now at least Balaji and Zee have a readymade defence when they are next accused of defaming the Rajputs/Rajvanshis. They can point to this claim - which is very strange given the categorical supplementary disclaimer last night that this was fictional !?! - and say that such attacks are totally unwarranted, for see, we have given the whole credit for Fatehpur Sikri not to the Mughal commanders and soldiers who fought and died in Rajasthan and in Gujarat, but to the Rajvanshi b Begum Jodha !

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well all i can see is this is the way jodhas lost rajvanshi honor as they are substituting rajput word is Being restored... 😲
Well it would have been a wow thing had jalal declared it as a new fictional Mahal..blue Mahal ,green Mahal i don't care but this is too much as ridiculous as making Akbar gift the kohinoor to baandhi ,
Now jalal if he abolished taxes here,at this frame of time let it be his decision jodha can stand by and admire her husband,while they can pour in as many akdha scenes I'm just all in 😳
Edited by peepu - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you aunty, I feel so relieved reading your posts and replys.
I especially wait for your view as i feel you are unbiased and say what it was.
thank you so much.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, my dear Joja. She loves him. But she is not in love with him, at least not as much as she is in love with herself.

I do not agree with the defence that if Ruqaiya did not reach out to Jalal in agony over his Khan baba's death, neither did Hamida. Yes ,Hamida did not do it, and that is why till very recently, she had no hold over Jalal at all. If you care for someone, you cannot ignore them when they are in great pain. And love is a much stronger emotion than caring.

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 11 years ago
***Pallavi, actually the bhajan mandali is larger than Jalal's munni's here😆
Hey dear, I am a bigger Jo fan too😉😆 But that does not mean I seize every opportunity to criticize him, one there is none😛 I love my Akdha very much😃 ***I am taking panga with Mandali😆. Anyways, here its just not about Jo fan or Ja fan, it is about being logical and sensible. Even in this era, it is so difficult for a man to ask sorry in front of so many people, so why should we get hyper about his sorry being not satisfactory😉
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Pals2411

This FS issue😆 I have been reading different threads silently, trying to understand this Fathepur Sikri issue. I read Shyamala Aunty's post and quite agree with the reasoning on why FS was developed. Then I read history_geek's post which was similar in kind. Lately I read skanda's analysis where she wrote that Ela made a call to Zee asking them about FS. They replied that it is true and that it was indeed Jalal's gift to Jodha that was envisioned quite early on and for proof they referred the Akbarnama. Now according to history_geek there are 4 Akbarnama's around😆 So I am waiting for more news😆 Who knows what and when Akbar exactly spoke about FS😕

As I said before, ' I am waiting for more news😆 Who knows what and when Akbar exactly spoke about FS😕', here I am to tell you that history_geek has made a minor update in his page 65. Please read it. It says that the construction of FS started way before 1569 and before Rajputana battle. An interesting bit😛
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

***Pallavi, actually the bhajan mandali is larger than Jalal's munni's here😆
Hey dear, I am a bigger Jo fan too😉😆 But that does not mean I seize every opportunity to criticize him, one there is none😛 I love my Akdha very much😃 ***I am taking panga with Mandali😆. Anyways, here its just not about Jo fan or Ja fan, it is about being logical and sensible. Even in this era, it is so difficult for a man to ask sorry in front of so many people, so why should we get hyper about his sorry being not satisfactory😉

***I am taking panga with Mandali😆- YES.😆😆😆
Actually, instead of being hyper, I think we should enjoy this beautiful Akdha romance. I am saying this now, because now both Jallu and Jo have developed feelings and are making sincere efforts to improve their relationship😛 Who knows, the CVs must be waiting for us with another MU😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: aashyagh

*** Even in this era, it is so difficult for a man to ask sorry in front of so many people, so why should we get hyper about his sorry being not satisfactory😉

Asking an earnest apology in public is not an easy feat...it's difficult - be it for a man or a woman😳...the fact that he's doing so in his own court as an Emperor only compounds the humility behind his actions manifold...he places Jodhas sacrifice above all such ego issues and that reflects his inherent personality despite his faults...👏
It's his badappan that he did so and her grace that she accepted it, much like he forgave her for her faults...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Pals2411

That is precisely what I am saying dear. But if you pick two strong characters in history and weave a love story between them, then CVs are definite to falter during their act of balancing between the personality of these characters while also showcasing the saas-bahu audience their masala love story. That is the reason, why nowadays instead of listing down what Jo did or what Jallu did for each other in the past, I am now loving the fact that they are at least working towards building their relationship.

Pals, You have got me totally wrong.
What Jo and Ja did to each other so far is certainly to be forgotten and their relationship together should be admired. No doubt.
But above, I am talking only about Akbar and the dilution of his character.
I am an admirer of MUZ myself. MUZ must have been one fascinating woman to have carved a niche for herself in the alien Mughal household and retained her individuality and that is the reason I admire her, but this all credit to Jodha with Akbar a puppet in her hands is too much. Jodha to Akbar was certainly not what Chanakya was to Chandragupta Maurya like what Balaji is attempting to portray here.
She might have been important to Akbar, but to give her the credit for all Akbar's political and administrative achievements in the name of romance is terrible. His own shrewdness, intelligence, administration, the capability of his men, his army, his other wives, everything is compromised to highlight Jodha And this FS credit to her is another thorn.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Originally posted by aashyagh

*** Even in this era, it is so difficult for a man to ask sorry in front of so many people, so why should we get hyper about his sorry being not satisfactory😉
Asking an earnest apology in public is not an easy feat...it's difficult - be it for a man or a woman😳...the fact that he's doing so in his own court as an Emperor only compounds the humility behind his actions manifold...he places Jodhas sacrifice above all such ego issues and that reflects his inherent personality despite his faults...👏
It's his badappan that he did so and her grace that she accepted it, much like he forgave her for her faults...
***Lashy, that is why he is called AKBAR THE GREAT😉

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