Mariam Uz Zamani-Pt1- Updt-MUZ-P39+Padshah Begum-P40+Salim and MUZ-P46 - Page 7

Well,
Daniyal's birth Mother's name is elusive as there is no authentic account of the mother apart from the name (Funnily , the name too keeps changing in different versions 😆) ...though most of the available accounts show it as MUZ only...And I do not think it was a mark of respect to handover Daniyal to Amer royalty, Akbar being a prudent king would never have taken such a step with his male child, it makes sense only if the Amer ppl were the child's own relatives...the Bibi mentioned here is the one from Goa in all probability,but she was not his legal wife...whatever else she might be...But if she had been Prince Daniyal's real mother, her status would have been increased and ppl would have known about her properly.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

That's what I was saying.. Harka had three sons.. hasan and hussain who died after a few months and Prince Salim.. who was Akbar's oldest surviving son.

@Ragsia...
so many questions...😊
1 by 1 i'll answer them...

yes Danial was sent to Amer.
u have to digest this.
Jodha bore him or she did not bore him.doubt ..!!

he was born to bibi marium..another wife of akbar..or muz...still doubtfull...


yes jodha was Salim's mom.
salim is also called jahangir..
i hve used jahangir in my post..may be u gt confused.😊

regarding your following query :::
"
I feel it must b well executed plan of Kattar muslims n even Aurangzeb who was also extremist. "

i also feel somewhat on same lines but...will find more to get a better picture..

and yes i''ll post more info in coming days..😊

@ Meself

that's what i m trying to say...😊..
in this post..
from start to end...

Hi,
@History _geek: I know where you have seen this a/c of Bibi Aram Baksh and the twins being her...but let me tell you this, The twins were from Heera , Akbar's 1st Rajput wife...AND this fact is NOT taken or Read from only Books, Net or Archives , but is also an integral part of Fatehpur Sikri chronicles...(NOM) U see, the specific reason of the Emperor visiting Salim Chisti while returning from a trip in 1564 was this particular death of twins which had him and Heera both extremely upset and restless for explanation...😊

Originally posted by: history_geek

@autumn rose

i never... meant danial was a hindu.
now i have also made it clear in my post..

regarding bibi marium, i have doubt.

BUT hasan and husain were NOT marium uz zamani's sons...that's a sure fact.😊

akbar married bibi aram baksh in 1564.

Hasan Mirza.
born on 19th October 1564...(son of Bibi Aram Bakhsh).
He died on 5th November 1564.

Husain Mirza.
born on 19th October 1564...(son of Bibi Aram Bakhsh). (twin with his brother)
He died on 29th October 1564.
😊

Originally posted by: history_geek

@autumn rose

i never... meant danial was a hindu.
now i have also made it clear in my post..

regarding bibi marium, i have doubt.

BUT hasan and husain were NOT marium uz zamani's sons...that's a sure fact.😊

akbar married bibi aram baksh in 1564.

Hasan Mirza.
born on 19th October 1564...(son of Bibi Aram Bakhsh).
He died on 5th November 1564.

Husain Mirza.
born on 19th October 1564...(son of Bibi Aram Bakhsh). (twin with his brother)
He died on 29th October 1564.
😊

@ KDR81

Hey.!!😊

Thanx for the info..

But can you please tell me, how can i access the fatehpur sikri chronicles., if possible...!!!

i also read it smwhere on net..
but at many places i have also read what i wrote..

lets wait..some more studying..and it will be cleared...

this is a great forum indeed...quite lively..👍🏼

would like to learn more...😊...if that is a true fact...!!!

Hi 😊,

The Govt. Archives authenticated by present descendants would have been the best sources, but that's a bit difficult... Or a visit the place and get in touch with the Peerzadas there...however, PMing u some link where you can see that ...😊

Originally posted by: history_geek

@ KDR81

Hey.!!😊

Thanx for the info..

But can you please tell me, how can i access the fatehpur sikri chronicles., if possible...!!!

i also read it smwhere on net..
but at many places i have also read what i wrote..

lets wait..some more studying..and it will be cleared...

this is a great forum indeed...quite lively..👍🏼

would like to learn more...😊...if that is a true fact...!!!

Hi Alakh,
Murad was known as Salima's son, though She most probably did not give birth to him (hence conclusion is that he might not be from Queens)...U see , it was a common practice in Mughals to give Children to childless begums for raising...(even some of the children raised as Prince/princess were not at all the Emperor's own...the internal history is quite obnoxious some times😕)

MUZ was important for more than one reason😊...not for one particular...She was the politically important, Physically Gorgeous , Mentally Intelligent, Emotionally very Religious and tolerant, Educated and talented and Above all, She was an ideal wife to Akbar , who was supportive like his shadow and was closest to him even in her death...😊

She certainly was NO CHUDAIL like our Jodha dear...😆

Regards,
Kamal

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

@kamal.. so what about Murad.. he was also a concubine's son? Why so much importance to MUZ.. she was a chief queen and important to Akbar.. not just her.. her family as well