Weekend Analysis Thread 1:Jalal & His Discovery..

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Hello all πŸ€—.. This is my first ever Weekend analysis post in JA forum 😳 ... I m really falling in love with the show currently and so felt like putting in my thoughts for this week as promised to my friend Mansi(skanda12) 😳 ... I or Mansi will b putting up these weekend threads every Friday or Saturday so that we can put down our entire week thoughts and suggestions in this thread which will really help and motivate the CVs to do better in coming weeks

So here I go .. πŸ˜›


About Jalal and what the future holds πŸ€”

For starters I m glad that Creatives have given so many various shades to Jalal's character so far .. Yes I will not yet call him Akbar since Akbar was his name post his transformation into a man with a golden heart 😳 .. so till he is transformed by Jodha , he will remain Jalal for me πŸ˜›...

After watching this week's episode , I have a feeling that this Trimurti 😳 (Mahamanga+ Bairam Khan + Ruqqaiyya begum ) all will join hands eventually to form their own army against Jodha while Jodha and Jalal's real mother Hamida Banu might b on other side and then its upto Jalal which side he chooses πŸ˜› ...

I m saying this simply because even though all 3 currently hv their own issues with each other but they all hv a common motto and that is to make sure Jalal remains the most loyal to them and they too have that power over Jalal's actions in some way πŸ˜‰... So its obvious that once Jodha enters the picture , all 3 of them will hv their insecurities and that time Jalal's own mother Hamida banu might b the only one who will want Jalal to b genuinely happy with Jodha since I m sure the mother will know that Jodha is the only person who can show the right path to Jalal 😳

Coming to Jalal's childhood friend cum wife ,this Ruqqaiyya begum seems to b one smart woman 😈 .. she does not expect any true love from Jalal but she knows how to keep Jalal under her arms πŸ˜‰ and so she plays this exclusive chess game with him and does all this wicked stuff to give him the feel that look how I m so smart and just the right woman for u when it comes to taking politicial advice and all πŸ˜‰.. Being the childhood friend of Jalal is her biggest advantage and so she knows that her words among all women will b given more importance by Jalal ... but things however might change once Jodha comes in picture since Jalal's decision to go to Amer does come as first unexpected shock for her πŸ˜‰

Overall what I can see is Jalal from outside might come out looking all vindicative towards the Rajputs or heartless and shrewed kind of a king but there is a soft side too which we can clearly see when it comes to his sister or his loyal Mughal friends and soldiers .. He knows the meaning of loyalty and friendship ... But he is simply surrounded by wrong set of people especially Mahamanga who always taught him how to capture and rule rather than how to spread love ...He never really witnessed those emotions that u feel in love .. His mother was always kept away from him by some smart manipulations by Mahamanga 😑 .. So circumstances made him heartless but he does hv a heart which will start opening slowly once Jodha comes in his life 😳...

For now CVs hv done a wonderful job with Jalal's character sketch and also beautifully showed how the people around him are mostly selfish or power hungry which had its negative effect on Jalal but he too is somewhere longing for that real love and affection and thats one reason why he is instantly attracted to Jodha 😳...Its not just Jodha's beauty which attracted him but its her overall fiersome personality which attracted him the most and that was so evident in the promo where he describes Jodha as this brave warrior who is hving mehndi in her hand yet carrying a talwaar and this is what impressed him the most when he discovered that Jodha is not just a showpiece princess to b kept in harems but a smart intelligent woman of substance and brave fighter too and so he knows that he simply cannot kidnap Jodha and put her in his harem πŸ˜† , but he will have to win her over from the Rajputs with a proper political allaince since her personality demands that kind of respect from the Mughal emperor 😎... He may say out of his false pride and ego that he will make Jodha the shaan of his harem but from inside he too is well aware that Jodha will never agree to it and thats one reason why he wants to attack Amer so that Jodha's father has no option but to make this alliance of hindu-muslim marriage πŸ˜‰...

In short Jalal knows the value of Jodha and he is well aware of the fact that Jodha commands that respect and honour since she is as intelligent and brave as he is and can give him equal challenge if needed in the battlefield 😎...Like I said Jalal's attraction for Jodha does not just come because of her beauty but its her overall personality which has already made Jalal secretly fall for the Rajput princess 😳 but yeah in typical fashion he will live in denial till he is taught the real definition of Love of course πŸ˜›πŸ˜†πŸ˜†...But Jalal's underlying passion and desperation for Jodha is already visible since his Amer decision was instant and unexpected where he dint even feel the need to consult the likes of Ruqaiyya or Mahamanga .. Goes on to show the upcoming change and a new positive beginning for sure 😎...

I must say Rajat Tokas is brilliant as Jalal so far ... His intense eyes spitting fire and at the same time that raw passion seeing Jodha for the first time , proved that no other actor can do justice to Jalal's role here other than Rajat ..Rajat was simply tailor made for this role ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️



About Jodha and what the future holds πŸ€”...

Jodha is a brave courageous and intelligent Rajput princess who knows well how to keep her Rajput honour intact ... She is the perfect candidate who can transform a heartless Mughal king into a Gem called Akbar 😳...

I m glad that Creatives hv made Jodha a intelligent and thinking princess here who has the ability to use her own brains when it comes to decision making and so we know that even in future , it wont b easy to manipulate her πŸ˜ƒ... The scene where Jodha almost catches Jalal red handed when he was in disguise of a Rajput fighter , for few seconds even the grt Jalal was caught completely off-guard because I m sure he never really expected a woman to actually put a sword on his neck in that sudden manner πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜†... Even though Jalal somehow escaped from there all thanks to that spl Rajput mark which he got on his arms at right time πŸ˜† , but still that scene clearly indicated that Jodha is no brainless bimbo but someone who has the ability to even checkmate the great Mughals and so Jalal will know that he can never really underestimate this perfect combo of beauty with brains πŸ˜ˆπŸ˜›...


Coming to Jodha-Suryabhan alliance , well Jodha and Suryabhan looks more like errr brother-sister to me πŸ˜³πŸ˜†... Well not because of my love for Jodha and Jalal πŸ˜† but because whenever I see them on screen , something looks off πŸ€”... I guess I m quite irritated with Surya's same type of chants and promises on what if he does not return or how he will marry only after this and that ..blabla πŸ˜†πŸ₯±...Its almost as if Surya is giving Jodha indirect hint of "look I will not return in picture soon , so go and marry that hot dashing dude called Jalal in next few weeks " πŸ˜†πŸ˜†...the whole boat ride was cinematically beautiful but a bit too cheesy and superficial for me 😳... I dont think Jodha is in love with Suryabhan either .. She knows that her marriage is fixed with this Rajput king and so she has made up her mind to love this fellow πŸ€”...In short Jodha is one of those Rajput princess who loyally follows her family and kingdom's protocol without really listening to her heart's call since for her , its her family and kingdom which comes first before her own heart's call πŸ€”...

In a way I do find Jalal and Jodha quite similar .. Both have given their first priority to their own kingdom's honour before their own desires and thats why both hv sort of blocked their heart's doors for now ... Only difference here is Jodha's parents hv taught her love and wisdom whereas Jalal's guardian especially Mahamanga have taught him more of hatred and thirst for power ...This is where Jodha will b able to transform Jalal into a better person since she will eventually understand that Jalal too just like her is truely loyal towards his kingdom before his own happiness or deisres 😊...

I now cant wait to see the kind of conditions Jodha will put in front of Jalal without any fears once the alliance of Jodha and Jalal's marriage takes place 😎... I m sure that scene will hv emotions and intensity running high from both Jodha and Jalal's end πŸ˜›...


Paridhi as Jodha is doing a fabulous job too and just like Rajat , even Paridhi has got those deep intense eyes which speaks volumes ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️... She compliments Rajat beautifully and I m glad Ekta selected her as Jodha .. she is simply perfect for the role πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘...



Highs of This week :


I think the biggest high point of the week has to b Jalal's discovery of Jodha :The princess and a beauty who has brains too 😎... The way Jalal showed his intense desperation to get Jodha in his Harem , all those dialogues and that deep raw passion to win over Amer , I can already feel the heat once Jalal actually manages to marry Jodha finally 😈...Right from their first meeting which was symbolically breathtaking to his mission of discovering Jodha in disguise , its been a really interesting journey for Jalal and is also one of the biggest high in the show too since in the JA film we actually saw very little of this pre discovery phase of Jalal before marriage but I m glad we r getting to see these detailing in the show here before the marriage 😳...

Also we got some interesting tid bits about Jalal's extended family too ... So we know where all his bitterness and negativity is coming from πŸ€“




Lows of this Week :


I feel the Harem thing shown could b a turn off for many viewers who prefer to watch this show with family πŸ€”... I hope CVs dont really stress much on this harem of Jalal because today's trp family viewers wont take it in much positive light .. already I see few members in our forum saying I wont watch if this harem of women r shown regularly ..Well I do understand where they r coming from 😊...

Ekta needs to remember that the show is sold as Jodha Akbar love story and not really as factual historic documentary on Akbar 😊 .. So at times she can compromise a bit on facts to make sure the family viewers r not embarassed while watching it with all so that trps remain steady ... CVs can show how this harem is created only as a show up or like a eyewash for the public but in reality Jalal dont enjoy all this much since somewhere he is searching for that real love which is beyond all this power game and lust 😳 ... Mayb in history Jalal did hv this harem and his share of fun with women too but for the sake of viewers who r more interested in Jodha and Akbar's epic love story , I guess a bit of cinematic liberty can b taken here since like I said its not really a documentary 😊...For me this was the only low point in these 2 weeks , rest was all fine 😳...




Suggestion/Prediction :


I guess its too early for me to suggest anything to CVs or predict anything this week since we all r waiting for Jalal to attack Amer and then Jodha and Jalal marriage alliance to take place followed by Jodha's set of conditions to Jalal before marriage 😳.. But I hope Ekta and CVs work a bit more on camera and dialogues so that it gives that epic feel when one watches it .. 😳... Dramatisation during high points is good for trps but plss dont over dramatise it especially when that woman is making predictions on Jodha getting married to Mughal family , at times I feel like watching Zee TV fear files during such scenes πŸ˜•πŸ˜†...those scenes can b toned down a bit πŸ˜†πŸ˜³...


Pheww so those r my thoughts on the show and its characters ... looking forward to all your thoughts and predictions too 😳😳


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Posted: 12 years ago
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wonderful analysisπŸ‘


this week...i loved nt so pleasant JJ meet...

i loved ruqu's entry...i really liked her character...i liked JalRuq scenes...

wanna see Jalaal Jodha Ruqu's interaction...i mean...ruqu jalaal ka dimag h...n jodha jalal ka dil...lets see who will wil🀣

and regarding rajat...u r absolutely right...he is doing a fab job...

Edited by pratsy - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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excellent post!

so finally we have the weekly discussion thread :D

For me the absolute high of the week was The abdul rescue mission :D very well executed and intelligently thought of by the cvs.

And I liked ruqaiya's character.She's tough and smart!

I kinda understand why she is Jalal's favourite afterall.

And as far as Jalal is concerned!I love it when a character has so many layers! He has depth.Its just remarkable! I am honestly intrigued by him
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It would be a great FF on this trimurthi (Bairam khan, maham manga, Ruqaya sultan begam) bec which never happened how can they will show it... Bairam khan and Maham manga can never make 1 gp. Akbar freed himself from bairam khan influence at age of 18 far before jodha entry... they can take some liberty like Ashutosh took to show jalal and maham manga's relation ended bec of Mahan manga's bad deeds towards jodha but in actual she broke and loose her influence in Akbar's court after his son's adam khan's betrayal and his death by emperor himself.

so CVs can take liberties with bairam khan and maham manga down falls
and now Ruqaya sultan. she was Akbar's first couisin, his chacha's daughter and Emperor babars grand daughter. her father, humayun real younger brother was ruler of Kabul and ruler ship of Kabul later transfered to Akbar after Ruqaya's father death. so she was the true Mughal princes, Akbar's wife since age 9. now !! the point is she never loose Akbar's trust, her power in his house hold his life and his court. she was remain the supream empress till her death even in reighn of Jahangir (jodha;s son)
even if CVs take liberty to manipulate Ruqaya sultan image how can they show her bad end like maham anga and bairam khan.. the best way was to avoid Akbar's another queens and ladies like Ashutosh did in movie or make ruqaya and salima sultan positive bec these two queens of Akbar were his fist cousins and remain always 1st and second in the supremacy in Akbar's life and court
Edited by sara212 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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And my res <3


gotta rush for now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Excellent post !

Lovved reading it n agree with you in everything except 1-2 .

Well , I lovve seeing Jodha-Suryabhan scenes , not only they are perfectly shot n beautifully n serenely shown , but love really shines from Jodha n Suryabhan's eyes whenever they look at each-other...it's like a bewitching power , a magnetic pull...irresistible .

Now abuout Suryabhan n Jodha's love...what to say...I'm bewitched by the sheer beauty of them when they are together , day n night I'm humming their background song...the actor playing Suryabhan is one very handsome guy...tall n elegant...very rajput like .

I'll cry like anything when my Suryadha ( Suryabhan-Jodha ) will separate...😭...it's silly but somehow I wish I could see them getting married . Oh please history...change yourself ! ( πŸ˜† )

Well , Paridhi is the best cast of this show n Jodha is the most beautiful n powerful , most adorable character . She's one fierce n intelligent rajputani with a heart of pure gold , plus she's extremely brave .

This is one exquisitely beautiful n strong chracter n Paridhi is doing complete justice to her role , she's playing Jodha with such ease n elan...grace comes naturally to her .

Mughal cast- only Ashwiniji can act...Smiley is struggling to portray her role I think , her expressions and body language seems very nervous n more than once it seemed that she has forgotten her lines .

I really , sincerely hope she starts getting under the skin of her character soon , for the sake of the show at least .

After Jodha the most likable characters of this show are Jodha's mother queen Mainavati , Sujamal ( I missed him very much this week ) n Suryabhan .



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sara212

It would be a great FF on this trimurthi (Bairam khan, maham manga, Ruqaya sultan begam) bec which never happened how can they will show it... Bairam khan and Maham manga can never make 1 gp. Akbar freed himself from bairam khan influence at age of 18 far before jodha entry... they can take some liberty like Ashutosh took to show jalal and maham manga's relation ended bec of Mahan manga's bad deeds towards jodha but in actual she broke and loose her influence in Akbar's court after his son's adam khan's betrayal and his death by emperor himself.

so CVs can take liberties with bairam khan and maham manga down falls
and now Ruqaya sultan. she was Akbar's first couisin, his chacha's daughter and Emperor babars grand daughter. her father, humayun real younger brother was ruler of Kabul and ruler ship of Kabul later transfered to Akbar after Ruqaya's father death. so she was the true Mughal princes, Akbar's wife since age 9. now !! the point is she never loose Akbar's trust, her power in his house hold his life and his court. she was remain the supream empress till her death even in reighn of Jahangir (jodha;s son)
even if CVs take liberty to manipulate Ruqaya sultan image how can they show her bad end like maham anga and bairam khan.. the best way was to avoid Akbar's another queens and ladies like Ashutosh did in movie or make ruqaya and salima sultan positive bec these two queens of Akbar were his fist cousins and remain always 1st and second in the supremacy in Akbar's life and court


Ruquiya begum was akbar first wife and was married to him at the age of fourteen being the first wife of Akbar she was conferrred with the title of Padshah Begum meaning the first lady...she was childless and outlived Akbar she is known for her prominent role in upbringing Shah Jahan...she was given the responsibility of khurram or shah jahan wen he was six days old and she brought him like her own son...she had a great bond with Jahengir (son of Jodha) and jahengir had stated her importance in his life in several occassions...despite of being childless she was devoted wife of Akbar and her status remained unmatched but her marital relation with akbar was bittersweet ...her relation with Akbar's other wife were good infact.ruquia and akbar second wife were childhood friends and they grew together and shared a deep bond... her relation with the Rajput princess were rather cold... after giving birth to salim Akbar overlooked her claim as the first wife and elevated Jodha to the position of Empress...neglected and dejected she was driven to despair and lived in the palace looking after the responbility of the palace...it was in the old age Akbar realized his mistake. He even regretted to have ever taken another wife apart from Ruqaiya, and even recommended monogamy, in his middle age saying, "To seek more than one wife is to work one's own undoing. In case she the wife were barren or bore no son, it might then be expedient. thus clearly indicates his reason for polygamy was to have a heir for his throne...and she played a great role in reconciling salim and akbar in later year of his life...histoirans belive tht Ruquiya Begum and Rajput Princess remained hostile towards each other till the end😊 (though there is no strong evidence tht supports the claim)

hamida banu begam didnt have much influence in the court as she spent most of our life travelling with her husband leaving Akbar in the custody of MAHAMANGA and later on devoted herself to islam...she was a religious lady 😳

Some people should really do some serious studies before making a comment. πŸ˜†
If any one wanna know the sources of my informations, I can give it too. πŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mine reserved. πŸ˜‰ Gonna write an article on it. πŸ˜‰

Jodha-Akbar- before coming to what I liked n what I disliked , n what should be shown n what shouldn't be shown, lets first think what was the promise this show opened with.

Jodha Akbar is supposed to be a love story, NOT a political drama. It's tag line announce , "Will Jodha's love transform a great warrior in to a benevolent king ?"

So that's what we are to expect from this story. It is always better to remember with what promise the story started with as that some times helps a lot to explain why scertain things are being shown in the show.

Bt this time the characters of both Jodha n Akbar have been clarified to us to some extent, so let's start with them.

Jodha- A fierce, open minded, intelligent yet soft hearted princess, she doesn't believe is carrying with her a so-called-royal-attitude, she's kind of care free n easy going, yet when it comes to Amer n it's people, her care, her worry, her empathy, her existence all is focused in them. In one way she's soft hearted , graceful, kind , generous , ever smiling personality , it's nearly impossible to ruffle her temper except when it comes to Mughals n jalal. So, she has two opposite sides of her nature, one fierce , strong , unyielding –a true warrior princess, bole to Sherni, when it comes to protecting her people, or her near n dear ones. She has a high moral standard, she upholds righteousness, truth , moral courage as most important , yet again there is another side of her full of love n warmth for all , a very interesting combination . A perfect woman in a way, even if you don't count that her beauty is a living legend. Her qualities more than her beauty have attracted Jalal towards her, he doesn't know yet his unfailing instinct , his subconscious must have realized that this girl is her soul mate , that they're meant to be ( I'm a sucker for soul mate thing lolz ). She hates Jalal with such a passion that it's almost suspicious. But recently she has started to brew some feelings for her fianc Suryabhan as well, now my point is why this is being shown ? When we know, unfortunately, that Surya-Jodha won't end up together ? Obviously with her growing feelings for Surya, it'll be , if possible, even more painful to marry Jalal, a man whom she wanna she dead. Even after marriage , her confused state of feelings may add to the already piled up problems in her marital relation with her difficult-to-deal quite-a-handful hubby. May be this may even lead to future misunderstanding tracks between her n Jalal.

After marriage she'll realize that Jalal himself was the victim of the situation , starved of true love n affection, never given an opportunity to explore his inner self in true detain n then only she'll start feeling sympathy, followed by empathy , n then may be friendship turning into love between these star crossed lovers.

That's how I visualize their future story.

As for Jalal, I believe he deserves a separate post.

Paridhi- she's so perfect for this role that it's better to say Jodha is perfect for Paridhi, rather than Paridhi is perfect for Jodha. Ekta's best gift to the audience through this show since a very very long time. So, a huge thanks to her from Indian viewers. Case closed.

Edited by Bamonforever - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But just separate post to say , Jyoti di , tumi osadharon !!! πŸ˜ƒ

Where were you till now ? Our forum needs JUST this kind of posts, fair , neat, spot on n perfect, YOU ROCKKK! πŸ₯³

Loved reading the entire post n agree with practically every word you said absolutely ! πŸ˜ƒ

I'm so glad today, finally a PERFECT post !


Edited by Bamonforever - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow...looking 4ward to reading your posts Jyo...

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