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Dear Piu,
A very interesting and comprehensive take on most of the dramatis personae. I greatly enjoyed it. The alliteration and the play on the 5 Ps is very clever, and the green Love Triangle is as neat as can be, and makes this psychologist's take on the subject much clearer that he/she would have managed to do!
But I have some reservations. For one thing, Jalal is, even now, not a puppet. If he had been one, he could never have become the proto-Akbar very soon after 1560, which is where we presumably are at present.
He is still, as he says, like an aulad with his parent figures, because he needs that emotional support, and also because, again due to the early and persisting emotional deprivation, he values his relationships to excess, and will not let go of them even after they become very problematic. In the Friday precap, he is again torn between his two mentors.
Very soon, he is going to break free of Bairam Khan, who is now repeatedly overreaching himself. He will not be missed, for Jalal can strategise better than he can and develop the tactics to match the strategy as well, even at this stage. So, very soon, his power will be fully his.
Even now, if there was an overt clash, there is no doubt as to who will prevail, for Bairam Khan would not last a day without the legitimacy conferred on him by his young pupil, who is the only one the army and the people will accept.
It is very likely that the Amer campaign, and its conclusion, will be all Jalal's. What he tells Ruqaiya about having killed his shikast first of all is absolutely true, for in the whole of his long reign, during which the Mughal empire was expanded threefold, Akbar never lost a single campaign.
Mahaam Anga's hold on him will last longer, for it is a hold of the heart, not of the mind alone, as with Bairam Khan.. But it too will fade as she too overreaches herself, and this because, like Bairam Khan, she too has an ulterior agenda, though it is leavened by genuine affection and protectiveness towards her one time charge.
As for your pithy comments: SELF- READING and schooling is an important basis for shunning the PREJUDICE that involves TELL TALE by others. When he listens and forms OPINIONS due to the his YEARS OF TRAINING by his mentor ,it's more like he reading a critical REVEIEW of a MOVIE even before watching it.The WHOLE idea is SUBJECTIVE and is not Spared by the PREJUDICE of the one who feeds the mind.I think when time comes ,He will REALISE the RATIONALITY that comes with education.
It is true that education broadens the mind, or rather it should. It does not always do so, and the most horrible mass murders and other unspeakable crimes were committed by highly educated people in the country that was then in the vanguard of European civilisation, the arts, and philosophy., Germany. And the Hitlerite court was a hotbed of the vilest intrigues, backbiting, backstabbing, the works, and Hitler himself was notoriously irrational and kaan ka kaccha. So was Stalin, and Jalal's European predecessors, Henry VIII of England. Philip II of Spain, at times even his great contemporary Elizabeth I of England, and any number of well educated rulers.
By comparison, the illiterate Akbar was infinitely more successful as a wise, compassionate, broadminded and just ruler. It should also be noted that while he was not literate, he most definitely was educated, in the oral tradition, that of shruti. He used to have something instructive read to him every night before sleeping, and he used to hold literary and philosophical discussions with many learned men in his court. He had tremendous powers or absorption and retention.
Not one of his literate successors did even a fraction as well as a ruler compared to Akbar.
Plus, even as one reads, is one not absorbing the prejudices of the author? Rationality cannot be ensured by education alone. Rationality depends on one's own ability to sift the grain from the chaff, whether it is what one reads or what one is told. Jalal/Akbar had it in spades.
As for the three mummies, if I was Jalal, and had Hamida Banu constantly looking lachrymose and reproachful, and if I had ever heard the way she complains about me to outsiders like Sheikh Salim Chisti, I would stay as far away from her as possible. Just looking at her is enough to send anyone into a depression!
As for Mainavati, someone was complaining a week ago about Jalal's 'bulging' eyes. I wonder what they would say of Mainavati's, always rolling in their sockets, it makes one dizzy to look at her! She is a ham of the first order, only a bit better than Shakuni Bai, she and makes Mahaam Anga look positively mild.
Shyamala B.Cowsik
A very interesting and comprehensive take on most of the dramatis personae. I greatly enjoyed it. The alliteration and the play on the 5 Ps is very clever, and the green Love Triangle is as neat as can be, and makes this psychologist's take on the subject much clearer that he/she would have managed to do!
But I have some reservations. For one thing, Jalal is, even now, not a puppet. If he had been one, he could never have become the proto-Akbar very soon after 1560, which is where we presumably are at present.
He is still, as he says, like an aulad with his parent figures, because he needs that emotional support, and also because, again due to the early and persisting emotional deprivation, he values his relationships to excess, and will not let go of them even after they become very problematic. In the Friday precap, he is again torn between his two mentors.
Very soon, he is going to break free of Bairam Khan, who is now repeatedly overreaching himself. He will not be missed, for Jalal can strategise better than he can and develop the tactics to match the strategy as well, even at this stage. So, very soon, his power will be fully his.
Even now, if there was an overt clash, there is no doubt as to who will prevail, for Bairam Khan would not last a day without the legitimacy conferred on him by his young pupil, who is the only one the army and the people will accept.
It is very likely that the Amer campaign, and its conclusion, will be all Jalal's. What he tells Ruqaiya about having killed his shikast first of all is absolutely true, for in the whole of his long reign, during which the Mughal empire was expanded threefold, Akbar never lost a single campaign.
Mahaam Anga's hold on him will last longer, for it is a hold of the heart, not of the mind alone, as with Bairam Khan.. But it too will fade as she too overreaches herself, and this because, like Bairam Khan, she too has an ulterior agenda, though it is leavened by genuine affection and protectiveness towards her one time charge.
As for your pithy comments: SELF- READING and schooling is an important basis for shunning the PREJUDICE that involves TELL TALE by others. When he listens and forms OPINIONS due to the his YEARS OF TRAINING by his mentor ,it's more like he reading a critical REVEIEW of a MOVIE even before watching it.The WHOLE idea is SUBJECTIVE and is not Spared by the PREJUDICE of the one who feeds the mind.I think when time comes ,He will REALISE the RATIONALITY that comes with education.
It is true that education broadens the mind, or rather it should. It does not always do so, and the most horrible mass murders and other unspeakable crimes were committed by highly educated people in the country that was then in the vanguard of European civilisation, the arts, and philosophy., Germany. And the Hitlerite court was a hotbed of the vilest intrigues, backbiting, backstabbing, the works, and Hitler himself was notoriously irrational and kaan ka kaccha. So was Stalin, and Jalal's European predecessors, Henry VIII of England. Philip II of Spain, at times even his great contemporary Elizabeth I of England, and any number of well educated rulers.
By comparison, the illiterate Akbar was infinitely more successful as a wise, compassionate, broadminded and just ruler. It should also be noted that while he was not literate, he most definitely was educated, in the oral tradition, that of shruti. He used to have something instructive read to him every night before sleeping, and he used to hold literary and philosophical discussions with many learned men in his court. He had tremendous powers or absorption and retention.
Not one of his literate successors did even a fraction as well as a ruler compared to Akbar.
Plus, even as one reads, is one not absorbing the prejudices of the author? Rationality cannot be ensured by education alone. Rationality depends on one's own ability to sift the grain from the chaff, whether it is what one reads or what one is told. Jalal/Akbar had it in spades.
As for the three mummies, if I was Jalal, and had Hamida Banu constantly looking lachrymose and reproachful, and if I had ever heard the way she complains about me to outsiders like Sheikh Salim Chisti, I would stay as far away from her as possible. Just looking at her is enough to send anyone into a depression!
As for Mainavati, someone was complaining a week ago about Jalal's 'bulging' eyes. I wonder what they would say of Mainavati's, always rolling in their sockets, it makes one dizzy to look at her! She is a ham of the first order, only a bit better than Shakuni Bai, she and makes Mahaam Anga look positively mild.
Shyamala B.Cowsik
Originally posted by: manzilmukul
WONDERFUL THREAD AND THANK YOU JYOTI FOR THE LOVELY ANALYSIS. Loved all the takes and opinions👏👏👏Well I know WEEKEND is almost over😆Yet I am here with my two cents for this thread coz its better late than never😆😆😆
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