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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Super Kool

Jalal-ruqaiya...the lady is confident, clever and a favouraite of jalal...she had an advantage of knowing jalal since childhood...but, nobody can take away the fact that ruqaiya has earned her place...she understands jalal like nobody does...

In yesterday's episode there was a hint of overconfidence in ruqaiya...sometimes, surety can be dangerous...right know her control over jalal is unmatched (in harem)...but, it is gonna change...It will be exciting to watch how she will deal with it...????







I agree ,. there was overconfidence and also a bit of arrogence in Ruquaiyya's body language .. she has taken her place for granted and like I said in my take , she tries to show her "non existent" intelligence 😆 with these chess games so that Jalal comes to her for advice on various family matters at least ...

She will soon get 200 volts ka jhatka once Jalal in that seductive voice says "Jodhaaa" 🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Jyoti,

If you can get thru to the CVs and persuade them to do this, I for one would be most grateful to you!'

Shyamala B.Cowsik







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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
Shyamala and Jyoti:
I have a feeling if this weekly thread gets more popular the CVs will themselves start pinching ideas from this thread. They have done that in other serials, and that is one of the main reasons we should keep up this analysis.
As Jyoti had said in her first post, the whole idea is to give the "stuck CVs" some idea momentum!
Otherwise we will soon start getting the usual "trip, fall and catch" type romantic moments and the "owl-eyed eyelocks" instead of really good storyline and subtle romance.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
@Mansi : I agree ... the last thing we want is typical trip fall catch and eyelocks in such a historical show 😆😆... Going by my own serial experience , I hv seen that most of show's CVs do visit IF forums for feedbacks and this thread will definitely b read if we pen down all the suggestions and proper feedbacks .,. I m sure we will see some improvements in problem areas by next week .. fingers crossed for it 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45
Dear Mansi and Jyoti,

Oh, Lord, Mansi, owl-eyed eyelocks is exactly what it is most of time, till one gets cross-eyed looking at them!😉 I am still laughing!!

Another funny thing that occurred to me when I was enduring that boat ride scene - No, Jyoti, royal families would NEVER have allowed any such goings on - was this.Ekta and Balaji have a passion for love scenes in the rain, as we all know. So, despite the well known (even to the CVs) fact that Rajasthan is not Mumbai, I half expected it to start raining. But I suppose they could not afford to ruin the dresses, or maybe some of the fabric colours were not fast, so they restrained themselves and kept it all nice and dry!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: skanda12

Shyamala and Jyoti:

I have a feeling if this weekly thread gets more popular the CVs will themselves start pinching ideas from this thread. They have done that in other serials, and that is one of the main reasons we should keep up this analysis.
As Jyoti had said in her first post, the whole idea is to give the "stuck CVs" some idea momentum!
Otherwise we will soon start getting the usual "trip, fall and catch" type romantic moments and the "owl-eyed eyelocks" instead of really good storyline and subtle romance.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Shyamala maam, your post was very interesting read n thank you for taking out the time to contribute in our forum.

But I beg to differ with a few of your points.

First being ,

no instance of her bravery has been shown as yet, except perhaps during the Mughal raiders attacking the Kali mandir, when she tells her guards to leave her and got to protect the others and the temple. Her whipping out Suryabhan's sword and putting it to the neck of the supposed spy is not bravery. She is surrounded by any number of Rajput soldiers, not to speak of Suryabhan at her elbow. Where then was the risk to her? If she had done that in a lonely spot when she was alone with the spy, then that would have been bravery.

I most humbly but firmly disagree with this. I've found quite a few instances of her bravery in the show, and I'll be attempting to put them before you as well as others, for considerations.

What is bravery ? And what is courage ? What act can be called as an act of valor ? To some extent the definition n the meaning will manifest in different lights for different people.

You're so correct ,Maam, in mentioning her very first act of valour shown in the very first episode, where she strongly encouraged the guards to consider other's lives before hers. But, is courage only required to face your external enemies ? (Namely Mughals in case of Jodha ). No. Courage is required in facing our day to day trials in a positive way , courage is required to not to give up hope even when you possibly couldn't find any hope. As the wise professor Dumbledore ,who was in my opinion a very wise man, had once told his students that more courage is required to stand against your friends ( In Jodha's case, it's family too, so even more difficult, so even more courageous ) , than to stand against your enemies. Didn't Jodha did just that when she rushed forward to save Abdul ? If we think of the timeline of the story, we can even better appreciate how difficult it must have been even for a princess to go against the wishes of the male members of the royal families , as well go against popular belief that all mughals are same n should be treated in the same way. Saving Abdul, a crippled man, from a terrible end wasn't only an act of extreme kindness n broadness of heart but also an act of extreme courage. Courage is a multi dimensional quality. A warrior who kills may be hundreds of men per day just because he's endowed with fencing skill or more physical strength than them, doesn't need to be brave.

But when I attend a mother in her labor room, n she pleads me , " Doctor, please take care of my baby. " n don't even bother for her own life , don't even once ask to put her life first, while knowing very well that in our Indian hospital settings she may well die by PPH, I bow down n salute such mothers for showing bravery at it's extreme n purest form.

My point being, to be kind unconditionally ( what she was to gain by saving the life of a spy of the mughals ) , to be forgiving ( her ability to understand that Abdul is just a pawn in the game, while Jalal is the "KING" , to face the odds of society n culture n protest n fight against them , to find light of hope in times of darkness ( she has these amazing ability to find hope n instill it in others even in the most difficult n impossible of situations, she's a woman who doesn't believe in dying before death ) , to encourage others to think in to positive manner without thinking with in the narrowness of one's own good'all these need extreme courage. Courage is not merely going to a battle n fight, but then may be yes ,that's courage, because life itself is the biggest battle , especially during times like that as currently being shown in rajputana track, every one is behaving in a hopeless manner, as if they've already braced defeat to their bosom, what with women preparing themselves for Jauhar , n men talking about never returning from the war, they're already dead even before the war has started, they've given up. But Jodha ! This amazing creation of God, stands apart from every single person in that she refuses to be a negativist , even if she knows that mughals are very strong enemies, n in front of the sea of Mughal soldiers, a small kingdom like Amer n it's military powers stand no chance in reality , but she also is a believer of the popular saying 'cowards die many deaths, so why be a coward ? Why always go on behaving , "We stand no chance " ? No. She firmly insists every one to stay positive , to believe that they can win, which is ACTUALLY the first step of success- self confidence.

Also her extreme empathy for others- that she considers a maid like Moti Bai her friend, behaves with her just like she behaves with her own sisters, her intense hatred for Jalal has also stemmed from the fact that for her, the people of Amer comes first n every thing comes second to it,

Mughals led by Jalal, their approaching violent paw towards her people n her rajputana , is the biggest threat right now. Therein comes her obsessive desire to put an end to Jalal.

All these need extreme courage. Empathy is particularly a virtue ONLY N ONLY brave people can afford, ruthless people are deep down true cowards. May be that's why along with Soldiers ,Doctors are called among the bravest of professions , because just as the empathy for his country men gives courage to a soldier to fight against the enemy , empathy for human life gives a doctor the courage to keep on fighting with death trying to snatch away his patient, even when he knows all hope is but gone n any moment the ECG will show a straight line.

Courage is non-existent with out empathy.

Jodha's bravery , courage are already well established in this show in it's truest n purest form.

I hope I've not lost you guys yet.

Sorry for any grammatical mistakes n type errors. Patients n medicines usually keep me away from serious writing.

Edited by Bamonforever - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47
Shyamala and Jyoti:
The idiocy of Suryabhan also completely flummoxes me.
He assumed that because they both got letters that they never wrote to each other, that some conspiracy must be afoot ... so what does he do?
He makes Jodha and her hench-gir exchange dupattas!
If indeed there were enemies who wrote thos letters how long would it take them to abduct both girls on the off-chance that one of them must be Jodha? Will any of the conspirators say "The pink one? No, no, no, my guess is that she is the blue one!" etc etc.
In fact the whole idea of dupattta exchange was so flimsy that Suryabhan himself may have easily erred and held the henchgirl's hand instead of squesszing Jodha's hand when the boat rocked!
And I am just laughing away thinking if the Mughals had been the conspirators they would have probably undressed both girls to separate Jodha from the henchgirl!
I hope Jodha can see that this chivalrous Suryabhan is a bit deficient in common sense!😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
Edited my last post , added a few lines in the end. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49
Hi Ladies.. Awesome discussion going on. Mansi glad to see u posting after a long time 🤗

I have some grievances to air .. Weren't Rajput princesses made to put ghoonghats/veils and cover their gorgeous looks from paraya mard lest they be taken away .. Even aaj ki Bhabos and womenfolk from Rajasthan and Gujrat follow the tradition na ? Then how come we do not see that in Ektas version ? On top of it boat ride dates 🥱 Creative liberties much


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Posted: 12 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Mansi and Jyoti,

Oh, Lord, Mansi, owl-eyed eyelocks is exactly what it is most of time, till one gets cross-eyed looking at them!😉 I am still laughing!!

Another funny thing that occurred to me when I was enduring that boat ride scene - No, Jyoti, royal families would NEVER have allowed any such goings on - was this.Ekta and Balaji have a passion for love scenes in the rain, as we all know. So, despite the well known (even to the CVs) fact that Rajasthan is not Mumbai, I half expected it to start raining. But I suppose they could not afford to ruin the dresses, or maybe some of the fabric colours were not fast, so they restrained themselves and kept it all nice and dry!😉

Shyamala


exactly what i felt!Why would the mother herself do something like this?

hahaha!shyamala aunty,ur like the coolest aunt ever 😎

Balaji surely loves romantic scenes in the rain. 😛 or wait, 'half rain' .Did you notice,Jalal wasn't wet at all in the ghaat scene?The rain was focussed only in some regions of the ghaat 😆
Edited by disha15 - 12 years ago

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