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Posted: 17 years ago
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This message is for the girl who started this topic...That Sandhya is over confident....etc..

Why women can't see a confident woman. This question is for those who think Sandhya is over confident. What do you think SRK is...... confident or over-confident?.

Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya.
They want woman like Prachi(who acts like a 8 years old girl, Sumedha(who also doesn't speak like a 19 yrs old either.) In my opinion Sandhya is the best dancer and by the way I love her choreographor Javed.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: paratha

This message is for the girl who started this topic...That Sandhya is over confident....etc..

Why women can't see a confident woman. This question is for those who think Sandhya is over confident. What do you think SRK is...... confident or over-confident?.

Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya.
They want woman like Prachi(who acts like a 8 years old girl, Sumedha(who also doesn't speak like a 19 yrs old either.) In my opinion Sandhya is the best dancer and by the way I love her choreographor Javed.

I think SRK is over-confident and I liked Mauli from Sa Ra Ga Ma and I wanted Ankita to win Indian Idol, if Amit was voted out. All the people you have mentioned, with the exception of SRK are confident people - not over-confident people. They believed in their ability, but never believed that just because they get praised that they are going to win the competition.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: paratha

This message is for the girl who started this topic...That Sandhya is over confident....etc..

Why women can't see a confident woman. This question is for those who think Sandhya is over confident. What do you think SRK is...... confident or over-confident?.

Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya.
They want woman like Prachi(who acts like a 8 years old girl, Sumedha(who also doesn't speak like a 19 yrs old either.) In my opinion Sandhya is the best dancer and by the way I love her choreographor Javed.

Just becasue prachi screamed a few times doesnt mean she acts like an 8 years old !!!
Loads of people sream let her be herself !!!

Just my thought but i think you have something against 19 year olds and plzzz those of sandhya fans who have said dont look at peoples personality becasue this is a dance show then one request stop doing it youreself and i am going to say the same thing to you its a dance competion not personality or attitude show !!!

we dont look at how prachi acts like backstage we look at her dancing because thats what JDJ is all about !!!!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: paratha

This message is for the girl who started this topic...That Sandhya is over confident....etc..

Why women can't see a confident woman. This question is for those who think Sandhya is over confident. What do you think SRK is...... confident or over-confident?.

Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya.
They want woman like Prachi(who acts like a 8 years old girl, Sumedha(who also doesn't speak like a 19 yrs old either.) In my opinion Sandhya is the best dancer and by the way I love her choreographor Javed.

i guess u havent gone through all the posts in the thread...i have already answered about shahrukh...

u said "Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya. "....pls dont assume on your own and come up with such statements...i like mauli a lot...i am very impressed with her...so dont just come and talk for the sake of talking...u are blaming me for something i have not said at all ! if i dont like sandhya (who according to u is smart n confident) then how can u declare that i dont like any girl whom u find smart n confident???? show me even one post where i have written i am a prachi fan or a sumedha fan....

if i write that i dont like apples...u cannot come up with statements like people like me dont like fruits ! pls think and read before u post ! then u may make some sense

Edited by denver_diva - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

This in reply to Denver Diva, since you are the originator of the topic, I just want a clarification, your topic speaks about Sandhya's confidence and they you go on to say she has bad facial expressions while dancing (i agree) but how the bloody hell is facial expression while dancing got anything to do with Confidence ??? Just coz you cant justify you theory of 'concept of confidence', you are diverting your original topic to her facial expressions being wrong. To which all I can say is that I agree her expressions are not the right ones and she has a open mouth while dancing (like gurpreet from Nach Baliye 2) which is not good.
However I would say there is 'nothing like a concept of confidence'. Anyways you have clarified that you find her over confident, well to all his own. I have no problems if any of you find her OVER CONFIDENT coz its upto your perception.
What I questioned you (which you did not answer) is that you threw in a few names of Confident People (who as per you are having right confidence) which included Sushmita, Shabana, Konkana etc. (all arty actors, just coz they are arty does not make them confident, anyways thats your perception) but all I asked is that how is their confidence 'correct one' specially sush as she is the single most irritating acctress who has a verbal diahorrea. Just because she changes BF's every season, does that make her confident correctly ??
I am only curious to you the difference between right & wrong confidence and since you have given examples of each category, I have gotten more curious.

yes in my opening post i have written that i find sandhya over-confident and her expressions loud...no where on india forums does it say that we should discuss only one point per thread...i didnt want to make 2 different threads dealing in related issues so i discussed it in the same one...i didnt mention both the points in the thread heading as i thought why make the heading too long...so let it be in the body of the post...i didnt know it would get u jumping this way...lol!! hope it makes sense now...or if u can meet me...i can explain it better on a white borad with a marker.

every word, every term is a concept...a concept is something one needs to understand or realise....human behaviour and psychology have been my subjects where we had topics such as self-esteem, confidence, etc...and that where i have picked up this that confidence is also a concept...i dont blame u for not knowing this...but i do find it strange that u are going off the topic and argueing about and challenging something which u dont even know!

even if u didnt agree that confidence could be a "concept"...atleast from my post u understood what i was trying to say....i meant that sandhya is over-confident and she isnt really as good a dancer as she always claims to be as her expressions are hopeless...

now stop debating about whether confidence is a concept or not...and think of better ways of defending sandhya's stupid comments like...she n her choreo are like yuvraj n dhoni...and the judges know who is a good dancer...and also defend the ugly faces she makes while dancing! good luck

Edited by denver_diva - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hey Denver Diva, why should I stop debating ??? If you are finding it too hot to handle then please let me know. I see your amateurish arguements which are all over the place and dont make any sense. I am surprised that you are a psychology student. When you say ' every word...every term is a concept', I feel like laughing. Sorry did not want to be mean but just to support your theory you are throwing up anything. YOu have still not answered the simple question as to how is Sushmita Sen's confidence and diff from Sandhya's. What is the diff in 'right concept of confidence' and 'wrong concept of confidence'.

As I said it seems from your post is that the right confidence levels are those by which you know that you are above the law and rules can be bent for. Its the similar concept of confidence which Salman Khan has after he runs over people and kills animals, coz he knows that the rules will be bent in his favour. Am I right ??

At least Sandhya has comments, well your Prachi doen not have comments, she only has Screeches !!!! And Giggles. So ya I guess as someone who admires confident opinionated women, its my duty to defend Sandhya. But I feel she does not need it as she has a voice of her own which she is never afraid to show and what is right is never meant to be defended.
I think you need to defend Prachi coz she is the one who has bended the rules (and has confidence levels matching to Musharaf & Salman), she is the won who is on that stage unfairly. Plsu she cannot defend herself as screeches are never counted as opinions. So as I see it, you need to do the defending.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: paratha

This message is for the girl who started this topic...That Sandhya is over confident....etc..

Why women can't see a confident woman. This question is for those who think Sandhya is over confident. What do you think SRK is...... confident or over-confident?.

Whenever these women see a smart, confident woman they start bashing her. Like Ankita in Indian Idol, Mauli in Sa re ga ma pa and now Sandhya.
They want woman like Prachi(who acts like a 8 years old girl, Sumedha(who also doesn't speak like a 19 yrs old either.) In my opinion Sandhya is the best dancer and by the way I love her choreographor Javed.

Well I totally agree with you. What is worse is that such things are pointed out by females themselves. I am surprised that instead of supporting a confident young woman, they try to pull her down. This is the way our society is and we are all to blame for it.

As I see it that those people who see others having more confidence then themselves, they tend to call them 'over confident' in order to justify themselves in their own eyes. I am a MA in Psychology and with my limited knowledge I can see that this is just human nature.

For many women who are confident enough will never find Sandhya over confident. But some who will judge her based on their self confidence, will find her OVER CONFIDENT. The term OVER comes only because you are comparing it with some other level and in most cases it is your own self confidence against which you judge.

I too find SRK over confident but I realise that its from my POV and maybe I compare his self confidence to mine. OSO's success proves that he is the best when it comes to business & money, so maybe he is justified in calling himself the best !

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

Hey Denver Diva, why should I stop debating ??? If you are finding it too hot to handle then please let me know. I see your amateurish arguements which are all over the place and dont make any sense. I am surprised that you are a psychology student. When you say ' every word...every term is a concept', I feel like laughing. Sorry did not want to be mean but just to support your theory you are throwing up anything. YOu have still not answered the simple question as to how is Sushmita Sen's confidence and diff from Sandhya's. What is the diff in 'right concept of confidence' and 'wrong concept of confidence'.

As I said it seems from your post is that the right confidence levels are those by which you know that you are above the law and rules can be bent for. Its the similar concept of confidence which Salman Khan has after he runs over people and kills animals, coz he knows that the rules will be bent in his favour. Am I right ??

At least Sandhya has comments, well your Prachi doen not have comments, she only has Screeches !!!! And Giggles. So ya I guess as someone who admires confident opinionated women, its my duty to defend Sandhya. But I feel she does not need it as she has a voice of her own which she is never afraid to show and what is right is never meant to be defended.
I think you need to defend Prachi coz she is the one who has bended the rules (and has confidence levels matching to Musharaf & Salman), she is the won who is on that stage unfairly. Plsu she cannot defend herself as screeches are never counted as opinions. So as I see it, you need to do the defending.

just as u can see the difference of maturity levels between sandhya and prachi (which i agree to as we cannot expect a teenager to be as mature as someone much older) just as most of us know that konkona sen is a better actor than dia mirza...similarly, many of us here can make out the difference between sandhya and sushmita or whatever examples i had given...and i repeat myself...if u want further explanation...meet me so that i can explain on awhite board with a marker to u!

i did not say "dont debate at all"....i said dont go off topic and debate (whether confidence is a concept or not coz the debate is about sandhya and not about whether the terminology is correct or not even after the meaning has been explained over and over again)...

u can laugh at whatever u want to...your mockery will not change things...concepts still remain concepts...and your personal attacking at my education only makes me feel u r getting ugly so i should ignore all your subsequent posts...

i dont think i owe u any explaination about salman mussharraf or prachi or about "bending rules"....as i do not patronize any of these people...and no where have i said that they are confident or rules should be bent...so u should have questioned me on what i have said...not on what i have not said.

i just made a thread...and wrote my opinion...u should have posted your opinion whether u agree or disagree and why etc...without attacking me...u got into a firing mode and the rest is what u got as replies...my first post had no attack on you or your education or your maturity level...and u came up attacking me! u pulled up my post and brought in points about prachi and about me not liking any confident women etc...when that was absolutely uncalled for.if i write that i dont like sandhya..does it automatically mean that i dont like any so called confident women...??? i had given those name (sushmita etc...to help people understand that its not that i dont like any of them and also that i feel sandhya doesnt fall in their category....) but u went off topic to fight n not argue....was that behaviour very "smart and confident"??? hope u realize the difference some day and laugh at your ownself too ! until then...KEEP AWAY FROM ME !!!! 😉

Edited by denver_diva - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

Hey Denver Diva, why should I stop debating ??? If you are finding it too hot to handle then please let me know. I see your amateurish arguements which are all over the place and dont make any sense. I am surprised that you are a psychology student. When you say ' every word...every term is a concept', I feel like laughing. Sorry did not want to be mean but just to support your theory you are throwing up anything. YOu have still not answered the simple question as to how is Sushmita Sen's confidence and diff from Sandhya's. What is the diff in 'right concept of confidence' and 'wrong concept of confidence'.

As I said it seems from your post is that the right confidence levels are those by which you know that you are above the law and rules can be bent for. Its the similar concept of confidence which Salman Khan has after he runs over people and kills animals, coz he knows that the rules will be bent in his favour. Am I right ??

At least Sandhya has comments, well your Prachi doen not have comments, she only has Screeches !!!! And Giggles. So ya I guess as someone who admires confident opinionated women, its my duty to defend Sandhya. But I feel she does not need it as she has a voice of her own which she is never afraid to show and what is right is never meant to be defended.
I think you need to defend Prachi coz she is the one who has bended the rules (and has confidence levels matching to Musharaf & Salman), she is the won who is on that stage unfairly. Plsu she cannot defend herself as screeches are never counted as opinions. So as I see it, you need to do the defending.

This topic is about sandhya so i dont find any point in discssing Prachi here !!!
Prachi has NOT bended the rules your not her friend or someone close to her that you can be soo sure about it !!!

Dont need to say anthing about Prachi !!!

Like loads of Sandhya fans say its a dancing show not an personality show i am also saying the same !!!!

Im Happy Prachi is back !!! 😳

And about Prachi not having comments well probably if she got asked a question she woud give comments and when she has been asked she had answered it !!!

Sandhya is nice !!!

Her performances are good i dont really have aproblem with her attiude !!!

Sooplzz dont say things like that about Prachi

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

Well I totally agree with you. What is worse is that such things are pointed out by females themselves. I am surprised that instead of supporting a confident young woman, they try to pull her down. This is the way our society is and we are all to blame for it.

As I see it that those people who see others having more confidence then themselves, they tend to call them 'over confident' in order to justify themselves in their own eyes. I am a MA in Psychology and with my limited knowledge I can see that this is just human nature.

For many women who are confident enough will never find Sandhya over confident. But some who will judge her based on their self confidence, will find her OVER CONFIDENT. The term OVER comes only because you are comparing it with some other level and in most cases it is your own self confidence against which you judge.

I too find SRK over confident but I realise that its from my POV and maybe I compare his self confidence to mine. OSO's success proves that he is the best when it comes to business & money, so maybe he is justified in calling himself the best !

You couldn't have said it better. I don't understand why sandhya is being bashed for her confident attitude. I find her free spirited kind of gal who believes in herself. You are right people are comparing their confidence to hers and find it over bearing.

well said👏

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