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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Khushi.

I have always stayed with the thought i have about WC entries that YES there is nothing wrong in them winning.😊


Personally, i feel that WC or no WC, how does that make a difference? Someone who is not a WC has spent more weeks in the show- Fine , That person has struggled more for votes- Fine but how does that make anyone who is a WC not eligible to win? Is the time you spend working on something what defien your victory or is it how much you do in whatever time you have? Infact i believe that the WC's have to work 100 times harder then the non-WC's because they come late- They have lesser connection with the audience , the show, the format and the judges. They have lesser amount of stability to carry on ( Votes basis) .

If we go this way then people who join a class late , say for example if I join grade 10 at the time of the last semester and not fromt he first semester and i Top despite of joining late( I work hard) then should i not deserve to be the topper? No right? So all that matter is how hard you work. Every kind of a contestant has there own set of pros and cons with them.

So i say that WC or no WC - this has nothing to do with winning😊


I swear I didn't look at your post before making the same exact argument! LOL! We think alike!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#12
It's not fair if a wild card entry wins, as they came in so late in the show. The finalist should be between isha, gurmeet and bharti. Obviously the winner should be ISHA and SALMAN. If they wanted to bring a wild card entry it should've been one of the contestants that have been eliminated like the original concept of the show.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13
Mmm yes it is unfair..jis den wo ay thy mein tu us den sy isy unfair maanti hun for those who amde their places in top 8 khair persnally i wana see Gurmeet as a winner n he deserve to b the winner
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Posted: 13 years ago
#14
according to me it is fair because their dances are really good and good chereographies too..they also left a good impression on the viewers that is why when asked the question who will win rithvik and rashmi are always mentioned
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Posted: 13 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: -Chandramukhi-



A different perspective and it is quite compelling I must say 👍🏼

But I don't agree, again two different things compared here. You had to work hard to catch up in terms of material, but here wild card entries didn't have to perform for all their lost weeks, they only started performing midway. It's like if you joined class late, you were given the exception of not being responsible of learning the previous material, now tell me if that was the case and if you stood first, do you think others would have been ok with it ??? I am guessing even your answer would be "no" here.

And in terms of audience connection, you can't tell me after watching these two perform, people wouldn't like them. In this dept, I would agree that work hard plays a role for churning out a good performance for the audience. But then again, this applies to every contestant, GC did bad, people criticized, and same happened with Isha. So to maintain an audience connection, everyone has to work hard every week whether you're audience's fav or not

P.S: Simply my opinion and trying to debate things out. Not in anyway trying to impose my viewpoints 😃

Hey😊, I LOVE debating😆 and no problems , i know the rules of debating - No one( not sur eof this forum though😕) debates to impose things on others , i also don't intend to impose my POV on you or anyone. I totally respect each and everyone's POV.😊

Absolutely! These are two different things but are about the same thing- Hard work and Victory. Yes, If i would join a class late and be free of not learning the portion i missed and then i would top then obviously these would be a disadvantage- Totally agreed. But you see you are kind of misunderstanding the "material" in question for this case. the "material" over here is not the previous dances that the WC entrant missed like in the case of an academic year but in this particular case this "material" is Connection. Its all about connecting here. They do not need to work on previous dances that there fellow mates did because they will not be judged on that basis- they will be judged on what they perform that particular day- so, the previous thing just vanishes in the air- it holds no importance here. What they have to actually catch up to and make up for is the time and connection that they missed. What i actually meant to convey with that class example was that hardwork and perseverance is what matters and not that how long you have been into that thing. I have seen new employees going ahead of their senior bosses because they were wither more talented or more hardworking.😊

For the connection thing , well i will say that i disagree.😊 Here i am not talking about how a contestant impresses the audience and so they vote for them , i am talking about how well "versed" the audience is with that contestant with respect to the show he/she is participating in ( This makes a difference in the finals). For Example- I never liked Darsheel that much. Him in the show or not- it hardly mattered to me initially. But as i went on to see the show for weeks and weeks ( to see my favs perform) i also saw Darsheel and gradually as i kept on seeing him week after week i started liking him and his performances. You see its very psychological , you keep on seeing someone in the show getting praises all the time for performing well and even though you initially don't like that person you start liking him or her- its very involuntary and why i said that it matters in the finals is because say for example Darsheel wouldn't have been eliminated and he might have reached the finals and my fav contestant wont have then i would have voted for Darsheel because i started liking him- even though not on purpose. When one is in a show for more weeks one does get more closer to the audience in terms of attention received and in terms of "fame". Though the WC's in JDJ also have quite an ample time to build up that connection as they are safe - For some time..I Hope.😊

Hence, What i mean is the even if one is a WC or not a WC what makes one eligible to win is hard work . If being a Non- WC puts one in disadvantage ( more time in the show , more weeks and some one new comes up and makes up for all that by getting 30's) then so does being a WC(Lesser connection , lesser time on the show . So , whichcever part of the group one is in - they have there own shares of pros and cons and i stay to what i said- Victory in the show doesnt not really rely on whether you are in the field of work from 13 weeks or 3 weeks. If one can get a score in 3 weeks which the other got in 13 weeks( Just Hypothetical😊) then that shouldn't matter.

BTW, Your comment was beautifully written👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Rapier


I swear I didn't look at your post before making the same exact argument! LOL! We think alike!

LOL ,No swearing needed. I trust you👍🏼..lol. Glad to know that we think alike😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#17
ofcourse a big no from my side
i want GC and isha in the finale bcoz they struggled since day one
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Posted: 13 years ago
#18
it's all about talent at the end of the day...

RD, rashmi and KW's challenge is to work hard and outshine the other three who are here since day 1 to win..

And isha, bharti and GC's challenge is to work harder and outdo WCs to protect their positions..

This can happen only with talent... At the end of the day it's the challenge and the talent that matters...

if i think RD is doing better than GC in any act i'll vote for him... there is nothing wrong... coz what matters is entertainment entertainment and entertainment... (in dance not comedy)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: Khushi.

Hey😊, I LOVE debating😆 and no problems , i know the rules of debating - No one( not sur eof this forum though😕) debates to impose things on others , i also don't intend to impose my POV on you or anyone. I totally respect each and everyone's POV.😊

Absolutely! These are two different things but are about the same thing- Hard work and Victory. Yes, If i would join a class late and be free of not learning the portion i missed and then i would top then obviously these would be a disadvantage- Totally agreed. But you see you are kind of misunderstanding the "material" in question for this case. the "material" over here is not the previous dances that the WC entrant missed like in the case of an academic year but in this particular case this "material" is Connection. Its all about connecting here. They do not need to work on previous dances that there fellow mates did because they will not be judged on that basis- they will be judged on what they perform that particular day- so, the previous thing just vanishes in the air- it holds no importance here. What they have to actually catch up to and make up for is the time and connection that they missed. What i actually meant to convey with that class example was that hardwork and perseverance is what matters and not that how long you have been into that thing. I have seen new employees going ahead of their senior bosses because they were wither more talented or more hardworking.😊

For the connection thing , well i will say that i disagree.😊 Here i am not talking about how a contestant impresses the audience and so they vote for them , i am talking about how well "versed" the audience is with that contestant with respect to the show he/she is participating in ( This makes a difference in the finals). For Example- I never liked Darsheel that much. Him in the show or not- it hardly mattered to me initially. But as i went on to see the show for weeks and weeks ( to see my favs perform) i also saw Darsheel and gradually as i kept on seeing him week after week i started liking him and his performances. You see its very psychological , you keep on seeing someone in the show getting praises all the time for performing well and even though you initially don't like that person you start liking him or her- its very involuntary and why i said that it matters in the finals is because say for example Darsheel wouldn't have been eliminated and he might have reached the finals and my fav contestant wont have then i would have voted for Darsheel because i started liking him- even though not on purpose. When one is in a show for more weeks one does get more closer to the audience in terms of attention received and in terms of "fame". Though the WC's in JDJ also have quite an ample time to build up that connection as they are safe - For some time..I Hope.😊

Hence, What i mean is the even if one is a WC or not a WC what makes one eligible to win is hard work . If being a Non- WC puts one in disadvantage ( more time in the show , more weeks and some one new comes up and makes up for all that by getting 30's) then so does being a WC(Lesser connection , lesser time on the show . So , whichcever part of the group one is in - they have there own shares of pros and cons and i stay to what i said- Victory in the show doesnt not really rely on whether you are in the field of work from 13 weeks or 3 weeks. If one can get a score in 3 weeks which the other got in 13 weeks( Just Hypothetical😊) then that shouldn't matter.

BTW, Your comment was beautifully written👏



Wow it's long 😆 Sorry bed time for me, will come tomorrow and respond 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: -Chandramukhi-



Wow it's long 😆 Sorry bed time for me, will come tomorrow and respond 😃

Haha!Lol! No problem. This isnt the first time someone told me this so i am very familiar with this " You're post is too long , i will read it later" comment.😆. I usually write alot..lol.. 😆

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