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Ok buffie if aamir really wants an oscar he can go act in hollywood flicks instead of wasting his talent here where people actually die to watch him.I would definitely want be appreciated by the audience than by critics OR we should learn to appreciate both.We are the ones who make him a star even though some critics and judges mayhave lasbasted his movie.I Know its a big thing to get an oscar but does that mean You have to ignore filmfare or any other poppularity award??Look at SRk he goes for oscars as well as filmfares and i admire Amitabh bach even more as he said he doesnt belive in going afer Oscars. 😳

Originally posted by: a4j4ever

Ok buffie if aamir really wants an oscar he can go act in hollywood flicks instead of wasting his talent here where people actually die to watch him.I would definitely want be appreciated by the audience than by critics OR we should learn to appreciate both.We are the ones who make him a star even though some critics and judges mayhave lasbasted his movie.I Know its a big thing to get an oscar but does that mean You have to ignore filmfare or any other poppularity award??Look at SRk he goes for oscars as well as filmfares and i admire Amitabh bach even more as he said he doesnt belive in going afer Oscars. 😳

its all personal opinions sharmi...you can give a 1000 reasons as to why you prefer SRK to AK, and I can substantiate why i go for the vice versa by putting my points together...it doesnt take us nywhere,...but just judging a person based on whether or not he attends an award function is not fair..we much give aamir a fair crack of the whip.......and just because he doesnt go to collect the awards, it doesnt make SRK a better actor/citizin than Aamir.......and an indian movie getting nominated an oscar is really something great...I mean, lagaan was nominated in the best foreign film category, beating so many movies from across the world.....whereas at filmfare, they only single out the "HIT" indian movies..maqbool wasnt even nominated in any category😕😕........so winning an oscar is definitely BIGGER than winning a filmfare.....and though people might say that "oscars dont matter etc etc etc", do they really mean it😉...now if black had been nominated, wouldnt Big B have gone....as I said, attending or not attending the award functions is not a yardstick....and just because SRK attends all the award functions, it doesnt make him better than Aamir....and one more thing, SRK hosts award functions for nothinh else but money🤢....nothing so great about it..even Emraan Hashmi attends award functions😆😆...does it make him better than aamir?????.............

Even if he subtly insults the filmfare but not accepting them, there are film buffs who watch his movies😃😃...because he's a great actor👏👏👏...finally what a person wants is paisa vasool....and if some feel that the money would be its worth if they buy an Aamir khan movie ticket, then bingo!!and Aamir Khan says that he never reads reviews and he is equally satisfied and happy with fanaa, as he was with RDB, though one was panned by the critics, and one was praised😃😃.......bottomline:I cannot like SRK more than Aamir only because the former attends award functions, and the latter doesnt😕......and what are award functions afterall...an event, where stars like SRK cook a snook at everyone ,where an avalanche of stars(ranging from low to middling, to fair to middling) perform, where every darn hit movie gets nominated🤢......

Ajay Devagan never attends any award functions...he accepted the national award, as that is definitely of more weightage...Ajay got two national awards, SRK hasnt even got one(even aami hasnt got one).......as the national award jury chose the best film, from ALL the films made in that particular year, and in all languages.....Vikram won the national award for best actor award for his tamil movie ...and his performance was much better than Hrithik's in koi mil gaya..and rightfully, Vikram won👏, as the role was one of the most nuanced , most poignant roles...much better than the portrayal of rohit in koi mil gaya......hrithik won every darn hindi award, but he missed out on the national award...why do you think so many malayalam movies win so many national awards...because in the malayalam movies, there is a story which forms the skeleton, and they do not give that much importance to the glamour..the malayanlam movies(though I dont understand that language, I do watch a few movies with my mother) are appreciated for the "story", the premise, and not for glamour/skin show/muscle flaunting.....those movies are really good movies and rightfully win national awards....and the same applies to the oscars as well...I really dont have much respect for the filmfare awards,as every hit movie wins some award, and awards are given for the sake of giving awards, and not for the sake of real performance.....if there is no good movie, thye yet give an award to SOME movie, just because they HAVE to give an award.....

Originally posted by: a4j4ever

Filmfare awards are based on popularity Buffie.We indians watch his movies and we are his fans and surely By taking an award from a set of judges who know nothing about bollywood means more to him then we fans giving him an award.and are those people after our filmfare awards or national awards??I am no saying dont go after Oscars but need to give due respect to every award.

Sharmi, Aamir boycotted filmfare awards way back in the late 80s/ early 90s and it had nothing to do with fans and stuff. He was upset with filmfare because they had published some stuff about his personal life which was not true. So he refused to take an award from a magazine which basically made its living from publishing gossip about the actors and then had the cheek to honour those very same actors by giving them an award!!!

Originally posted by: Buffie

and he even said he'll terminate his contract with Coca Cola if needed😛....He did say that😊.....whatever,I dont think it was a publicity stunt, as eventually he was the one who was at loss as his movie didnt release in gujrat, then it released, and was taken off immediately😕...I dont think its a bad influence, as every darn celebrity endorses coke/pepsi... its fun watching the advertisements....even otherwise, its not like people are going to stop/start consuming aerated soft drinks because these stars endorse it...I watch the ads, I do take soft drinks occassionally when I feel like,its not that I have the soft drink only because someone's endorsing it... ...Atleast Aamir's the only fellow in bollywood who stood up for some cause....I dont think it was a publicity stunt, as if that was what was intended, there are many many other channels than narmada.....and lol, he's not my hero😆..Just that I like him more than I like the other bollywood stars....My real hero is the President of India😃👍🏼👍🏼

hi Buffie, sorry I am late but I have to say somethings here.

Originally posted by: Buffie

He did say that😊.....

1. Yes, He did say that, but that is the only thing he did. Talking. The add continues.

Double standards again????😉

Originally posted by: Buffie

he was the one who was at loss

2. He hasn't lost anything. He acted in that movie for money and he already got it. Again, he got some excellent publicity with these controversies. Remember he was not in the limelight for sometime. The best way to make people read a book or watch a movie is to make a controversy and get it banned by somebody. See the example of Davinci Code. Most of the people in the world must have read the book or watched that movie by now.

Originally posted by: Buffie

I dont think its a bad influence, as every darn celebrity endorses coke/pepsi...

3. Just because everybody else is doing it, you can't justify your wrong deeds. It definitely is a bad influence. Hundred people may spit on the road, so if you think you also can do it, well, it is still wrong.

Originally posted by: Buffie

its not like people are going to stop/start consuming aerated soft drinks because these stars endorse it...

4.We are talking about India here, where even a dog from the Nehru family will get an absolute majority in a Parliament election. Or where people make temples and worship 'Khushboo' and 'Simran' and follow Amithab Bachan's actions like devoted puppies. Whether we like it or not, Or whether we accept it or not, movie stars and sports ikons excercise a great but almost damaging influence on the youth of India. I have seen young boys and girls standing in ques kilometres long just to get a cap and tea shirt similar to that worn by Sachin Tendulkar. I have seen college boys and girls drinking cans and cans of Pepsi just because they think it is the favourite drink of Sharukh Khan and Kareena. Not every youth in India is Buffie, OK. Hero worship is very much dominent in Indian Society.

Originally posted by: blyton

I agree with Buffie here...so many celebrities endorse soft drinks with out knowing their contents...and they are not supposed to either; because even ordinary citizens are ignorant of such details. It is only the scientists and activists who come up with these revealtions from time to time, shaking us out of our pluralistic ignorance.

Aamir atleast only endorses Coke unlike manyof his Bollywood counterparts who endorse cigarettes or alcoholic drinks; i've never even seen him smoking onscreen in recetn years.

If he had wanted publicity, he would have chosen a less political issue than the Narmada dam, which has put him on the wrong side of the entire Hindutva lobby--a dangerous thing to do in Shiv Sena-dominated Bollywood, espeically if you are Muslim.

He has even supported the anti-reservation agaitaion raging across the country. If there is any actor whom i admire wholeheartedly, it is Aamir Khan.👏

Originally posted by: blyton

so many celebrities endorse soft drinks with out knowing their contents...and they are not supposed to either; because even ordinary citizens are ignorant of such details.

Yes, this is again a repetition but just because everybody else does it, you can't justify it. Just remember the famous quote in 'Spider Man"

With great power comes great responsibility.

These movie stars are public figures. They have a great fan following. They are enjoying the benifits as well as power of being famous. They cannot just plead ignorance of what they do or show in public. And they cannot be compared to ordinary citizens also. They do have great access to information. When they endorse a product or virtually influence their fans (That is why the Pepsi/Coke company approach them to endorse their products. They don't approach an ordinary citizen like Bluelotus or Blyton or Buffie for doing it.), they are supposed to know what they are doing. But as bad as it is, most of them just count the money and bargain for more.

If Dr. Abdul Kalam asks you not to Drink Pepsi while Sharukh Khan ask you to drink it, what will you do?? The educated few may listen to our President, but majority I am sure will follow Sharukh Khan.

Take the soap adds. I am sure Sreedevi, Madhuri or Kareena or even Sharukh Khan may not b using Lux, but most of the people purchase it because they think it is the filmstars beauty secret. ( I had one class mate who used lux soap meticulously to become beautiful like Madhuri. To our immense enjoyment she took bath thrice a day to get a perfect skin tone and complexion and in the end ened up with wrinkles and dryness.)

Originally posted by: blyton

Aamir atleast only endorses Coke unlike manyof his Bollywood counterparts who endorse cigarettes or alcoholic drinks; i've never even seen him smoking onscreen in recetn years..

Just because your neighbour killed two people, you can't kill one and say that what you did is ok, for it is not. And koke is not better than acoholic drink. It is a slow poison with lead and cadmium in considerable amounts.

And also this Coke/Pepsi companies are exhausting our natural resources. Many of you may be unaware of it but there is a village in Kerala which is a living example of the damage these companies are causing in India. In Palakkad District, the village named Chittur ( Where the famous Plachimada is located) has exhausted all its under ground water resources to te point that the people living there are shifting to other places because of draughts. This village was once the enclave of most fertile paddy fields in Kerala. It has become a virtual desert by now.

AND WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. WE PAY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF RUPEES TO DRINK POISON ON THE WAY EXHAUSTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

ps. I still like Aamir Khan as an actor. He is much much better than Sharukh in looks and in acting.

Originally posted by: bluelotus

Yes, this is again a repetition but just because everybody else does it, you can't justify it. Just remember the famous quote in 'Spider Man"

With great power comes great responsibility.

These movie stars are public figures. They have a great fan following. They are enjoying the benifits as well as power of being famous. They cannot just plead ignorance of what they do or show in public. And they cannot be compared to ordinary citizens also. They do have great access to information. When they endorse a product or virtually influence their fans (That is why the Pepsi/Coke company approach them to endorse their products. They don't approach an ordinary citizen like Bluelotus or Blyton or Buffie for doing it.), they are supposed to know what they are doing. But as bad as it is, most of them just count the money and bargain for more.

If Dr. Abdul Kalam asks you not to Drink Pepsi while Sharukh Khan ask you to drink it, what will you do?? The educated few may listen to our President, but majority I am sure will follow Sharukh Khan.

Take the soap adds. I am sure Sreedevi, Madhuri or Kareena or even Sharukh Khan may not b using Lux, but most of the people purchase it because they think it is the filmstars beauty secret. ( I had one class mate who used lux soap meticulously to become beautiful like Madhuri. To our immense enjoyment she took bath thrice a day to get a perfect skin tone and complexion and in the end ened up with wrinkles and dryness.)

Just because your neighbour killed two people, you can't kill one and say that what you did is ok, for it is not. And koke is not better than acoholic drink. It is a slow poison with lead and cadmium in considerable amounts.

And also this Coke/Pepsi companies are exhausting our natural resources. Many of you may be unaware of it but there is a village in Kerala which is a living example of the damage these companies are causing in India. In Palakkad District, the village named Chittur ( Where the famous Plachimada is located) has exhausted all its under ground water resources to te point that the people living there are shifting to other places because of draughts. This village was once the enclave of most fertile paddy fields in Kerala. It has become a virtual desert by now.

AND WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. WE PAY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF RUPEES TO DRINK POISON ON THE WAY EXHAUSTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

The point is...Pepsi is not as hazardous as alcohol......having a glass of soft drink once in a while is NOT hazardous....and pepsi addicts would consume pepsi whether or not the stars endorse it......The alcoholics dont wait for a star to endorse whisky........alcohol in meagre amounts is said to be good for the heart...I wouldnt consider endorsing Pepsi as something wrong......and the narmada issue connotes immediate loss of land and livelihood for a barrage of people....the aerated drinks do pose certain hazards, but as you said Its a SLOW process.....and in that way, we must be protesting against every factory...as every factory located in the interiors of india do pose health hazards for the poeple living in the vicinity.......but the demand for the commodities is high, and thus no one raises a voice against the factories.....and secondly, we cant expect Mr.Aamir Khan to stand up against every evil.....I'm happy thatunlike his other bollywood counterparts liek salman and SRK, who just dont care about anythign happening around them, Aamir atleast voiced his opinion about the narmada issue...I'm sure that it wasnt done for publicity, as after RDB, he was surely riding high and didnt need publicity of any sort...Publicity is what Rakhi sawant is trying to garner, and what sandA are trying to garner....and irrespective of whether Aamir had stood up against the narmada or not, his movie fanaa would have been a surefire hit..........

Originally posted by: bluelotus

hi Buffie, sorry I am late but I have to say somethings here.

LOL, even i quoted the wrong post earlier....

Originally posted by: bluelotus

1. Yes, He did say that, but that is the only thing he did. Talking. The add continues.

Double standards again????😉

Lets give him sometime😊...and if he has signed a few years back for say 5 years, he cant breach it NOW...lets see if he renews the contract...If he does, then i'll eat my words....😃

Originally posted by: bluelotus

2. He hasn't lost anything. He acted in that movie for money and he already got it. Again, he got some excellent publicity with these controversies. Remember he was not in the limelight for sometime. The best way to make people read a book or watch a movie is to make a controversy and get it banned by somebody. See the example of Davinci Code. Most of the people in the world must have read the book or watched that movie by now.

WELL, he definitely lost on something...maybe not money,but had fanaa been released in gujrat, perhaps the returns would have been a few crores more....and in that way, his movie perhaps would have been decalred th biggest hit of the year...now that's definitely a feather in the cap of any actor...he did lose out on that.......reiterating, if he so badly wanted publicity, there were so many other channels.....perhaps he could have made someone cook a story about his alleged sour camaradarie with kajol...that would have been much better fodder for the gossipmongers..sadly, whenever a celebrity does anything good, we call it publicity..If sachin tendulkar goes to a temple, its called publicity😕...when Vivek Oberoi works for the tsunami victims, we call it publicity...when Vivek works for a charitable institution, we call it publicity😭

Originally posted by: bluelotus

4.We are talking about India here, where even a dog from the Nehru family will get an absolute majority in a Parliament election. Or where people make temples and worship 'Khushboo' and 'Simran' and follow Amithab Bachan's actions like devoted puppies. Whether we like it or not, Or whether we accept it or not, movie stars and sports icons excercise a great but almost damaging influence on the youth of India. I have seen young boys and girls standing in ques kilometres long just to get a cap and tea shirt similar to that worn by Sachin Tendulkar. I have seen college boys and girls drinking cans and cans of Pepsi just because they think it is the favourite drink of Sharukh Khan and Kareena. Not every youth in India is Buffie, OK. Hero worship is very much dominent in Indian Society.

I have to agree here and i take eat my words....Most of the youth are so juvenile, that they ape a filmstar😕😕😕...I mean, we have the ugliest lookign people sporting a hair do similar to that of John Abraham, allthough that long hair looks good on john's face, whereas it really does not accentuate the ugly man's looks🤢.....but there are exceptions too...I gorge on sunfeast biscuits and pizzas, not because SRK or zayed endorse biscuits and pizzas respectively, but because i like the taste😛