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Answer 2

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I will again repeat the my comment. He was walking on his own two feet. It wasn’t like he was falling down the stairs. He had enough strength to carry his body weight. And he was still disoriented enough to not pull himself back from literary falling to his death. To assume this is a man who would be able to make a sensible decision after being repeatedly kissed/simulated/violated is our ignorance of the whole topic.

No denying she initiated, kissed him until he gave in but unfortunately after that he realized the woman he started kissing or actively getting involved to have s*x was NOT his wife. He clearly remembers he was actively involved as soon as he woke up and his guilt has come from there.

Again, I will repeat what my original comment already says.

your saying he realised it was not his wife and continued paints the picture that it was a conscious decision made in his mind where even Arnav only remembers his body taking over.

my original response to this has been simple. He still had enough strength to walk on his two feet and yet enough disillusion to have no regards for his life!!! That’s literally my response to the exact same question!!!


I am so glad Appy di has mentioned fear of falling there. It’s our most primal fear, the ONLY fear we are born with. He was in such a condition where his survival instincts are not working properly and you think he was in any condition to differentiate right from wrong?? You have to be GOD to do that. It’s not normal inebriating. He was about to fall to his death!!

And when he was pulled back, only then he realised it. It’s clearly written in the FF that recent fear of falling also alarmed him. He was in THAT bad a shape.


He is getting in and out of thoughts and sounds. And in those moments he has recollection of a couple of them and we’re assuming he was in a state to see right from wrong??

Also, absolutely nowhere does it state that he remembers last night clearly. If his memories are this hazy after raking his brain for days on end, these are the exact memories that he would have after waking up. In Khushi’s chapter he muses the same and when he woke up he remembered the same.


In fact, he was in such a bad state that he did not remember he wasn’t at home. He infact did not remember khushi and him were not talking. His first thought was ge felt sick and Khushi will create a fuss seeing his health. He was that wasted even waking up.

So I don’t know where does it state in the FF that his guilt comes from CLARITY of his thoughts as you mentioned here. It has been said enough times that just passing memories is enough for him to die with guilt. And that’s because unlike what majority of people who are against Arnav after Panchgani think, he does have a moral code. It wouldn’t affect him otherwise. He can blame it on drinks. He can blame it on la even. He doesn’t do that. And I’m so sorry but that doesn’t sound like a characterless man to me.

I think Appy di also mentioned in a comment that she will explicitly state what happened because boxers caused quite a stir. She did gave plenty hints that it could be a quickie. I don’t know why boxers sliding down is so unacceptable to people when there was a woman with him to facilitate the whole act. Really so hard to imagine her pulling them back up if he didn’t disregard them completely?? And I don’t even know why that’s a turnaround point for everyone who need everything in this FF to be absolute perfection.

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

Answer 1

You’re asking me for a proof when it is clearly stated in the FF what happened? You’re saying that this won’t probably hold in the court of law and for that exact reason I cited “made to penetrate”. It is considered a sexual violence. That’s it.

I will again cite the proof though because I said I will be extremely detailed in my response now. We did talk about external stimulus leading to an arousal. Under influence. When someone was not in a state to give consent. When someone verbally and physically gave all the signs that they’re not interested. La did provoke him and provided that stimulus repeatedly. Even then, kissing them repeatedly until (an under influence) male biology takes over will fall flat into this category. Precisely my reason to cite “made to penetrate” or “consent obtained with fraud”. It is not only legally accepted but it’s also morally heinous to force someone. There’s a reason that consent (or giving in for general language) is not considered valid when someone is utterly wasted.

I will also address the most problematic part of your statement here. Yes , Lavanya may claim victim in such situation (and you’re purely basing it out of your assumption that Arnav was on top all the time while he has a fleeting memory of a moment that has occurred), but let me tell you that we are not standing in a court. We are not bound by law to only feel empathy unless something can be legally proven. I’m a reader who has clearly been told what has been done to a man and my first instinct is not going to be ‘can this woman go claim victim in the eyes of the law?’

There are several rape and molestation cases that can never be proven. People have been let out on parole here in india. People have been given clean chit here in india. So if that does not hold up in court, does that mean it didn’t happen? Do I need to be bound by evidences that can be upheld in the court of law? Why won’t my first instinct be my moral compass and beliefs?

Also the statement that la kissed him and nothing else? That’s exactly the stimulant we have been talking about. The exact reason his body gave in eventually. She repeatedly VIOLATED him. La kissed him and nothing else is a sentence I will never use because let’s reverse the roles and see how problematic this sounds to my ears. I won’t speak for anyone else.

Let’s say it was Khushi in such a state. Let’s say there was a man who repeatedly kissed her. And let’s say by some miracle Khushi gets saved. Will we still not feel disgusted that she was repeatedly kissed and nothing else? Then why does the whole thing changes when there’s a man in the scenario who even in such a state kept pushing back and saying no? Why is his violation not triggering and boiling down to he gave in at the end which is purely biological??

Someone telling what happened is not proof especially if the other party will contradict it, I mean Arnav and La giving opposite statements. Proof I meant was alcohol or drug level in their blood which they never tested. And if we are not considering the law, still there are no details further other than they went all the way before which he had realized he was with someone else and continued. So I would wait for La's version. What if he did exactly same as her when he got actively involved, we don't know yet. I have never denied she initiated and he / his body gave in.

Now I don't even want to go the drinks or technical details of their encounter and lets say there is no law involved -

They had s*x , they both discussed next morning, he has fleeting memories, said sorry, she was casual about it and both walked away. They made a mistake in drunken state, no one had injuries, did not blame each other, decided to keep it under wraps and moved on in life. What does that mean? My conclusion, they did not fight you did, I did etc., took equal responsibility for the mistake, wanted to push it under the rug as if nothing happened until La came back with preggo news. Nothing more to it.

When both party take equal responsibility of the act, and don't point fingers at each other and want to let it go, isn't it equal acceptance from both? Else they would be in court fighting against each other.

He feels the guilt more because of his memory, righteousness and he is married to another woman.

This is how I summarize it.

Had he not been not drunk, he would have simply slapped her and pushed her away.

This has nothing to do with gender here, I do not differentiate it unless certain science aspect demands it. If anything, I have only boys and I am completely biased towards boys in real life.

-Swati

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Someone telling what happened is not proof especially if the other party will contradict it, I mean Arnav and La giving opposite statements. Proof I meant was alcohol or drug level in their blood which they never tested. And if we are not considering the law, still there are no details further other than they went all the way before which he had realized he was with someone else and continued. So I would wait for La's version. What if he did exactly same as her when he got actively involved, we don't know yet. I have never denied she initiated and he / his body gave in.

Now I don't even want to go the drinks or technical details of their encounter and lets say there is no law involved -

They had s*x , they both discussed next morning, he has fleeting memories, said sorry, she was casual about it and both walked away. They made a mistake in drunken state, no one had injuries, did not blame each other, decided to keep it under wraps and moved on in life. What does that mean? My conclusion, they did not fight you did, I did etc., took equal responsibility for the mistake, wanted to push it under the rug as if nothing happened until La came back with preggo news. Nothing more to it.

When both party take equal responsibility of the act, and don't point fingers at each other and want to let it go, isn't it equal acceptance from both? Else they would be in court fighting against each other.

He feels the guilt more because of his memory, righteousness and he is married to another woman.

This is how I summarize it.

Had he not been not drunk, he would have simply slapped her and pushed her away.

This has nothing to do with gender here, I do not differentiate it unless certain science aspect demands it. If anything, I have only boys and I am completely biased towards boys in real life.

-Swati

Swati, how can you say there are no details? He was obviously drunk and not in his senses. How is that detail missing from your evaluation? He repeatedly said no. Even after the kissing thing stopped and Lavanya took him into a room, he was disoriented, before Lavanya again pushed him again to bed.

There was no consent is established by the fact that A) He said no. B) He was too drunk to give consent.

I don't know if you read my other post regarding the "made to penetrate" or not: here's the definition that has been recognized by the government:

"Being MTP occurs when the victim was made to, or there was an attempt to make them, sexually penetrate someone without consent as a result of physical force or when the victim is unable to consent due to being too drunk, high, or drugged, (e.g., incapacitation, lack of consciousness, or lack of awareness) from their voluntary or involuntary use of alcohol or drugs."

By the way this definition even discards your comment about he was drunk at rave so it was his fault. Because it says that even with VOLUNTARY USE of alcohol, the person does not deserve to be sexually violated.

You have repeatedly mentioned in the comments earlier that it was consensual sex. I don't understand how this can be consensual when consent was not given.

I am not going to argue with you regarding what he did after the fact. You don't have empathy for him has been established here. It is fine if you think he is characterless, of low moral code, or a dumb narcissistic person. Please hang him dry and put him to a cross if you want to.

But please do not continue to blame the victim of sexual abuse for the event at Panchgani. It really sends the wrong message. Even if in your eyes, there was no scientific proof, does not mean that he was not violated. It does not take away from his suffering. It does not take away from the fact that he did not want to do this act. And let's also take into account that fine it was his mistake to stay back at a rave. EVEN so, that does not change the fact that he was abused, regardless of what his memories are.

Answer 3

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Your last point, that these things happen in a rave negates your question as to why he didn’t go all alert from the get go. Why would he knowingly involve a whole team going around telling of his adultery? Why would he be alerted that Lavanya might do something when she was cool as a cucumber like it wasn’t a big deal to her? It’s too common there. It’s a big deal to Arnav. According to him ONS wasn’t a big deal to Lavanya and she said so herself.

That means he is the dumbest man on this planet. When he knew La is NOT his friend, shouldn't he protect himself by testing himself medically irrespective of what La said which doesn't even require sharing it with anyone? Did La give him in writing, or was there anyone else as witness? She can change her stance any time knowing he is way richer than her. It is very clear he was concerned about his status and image, we all know the efforts he put to dispose the photos with La, shouldn't he have been more proactive in seeing the bigger picture and then act promptly before?? He plays chess in day-to-day life, what a shame the same logic he can not apply it in real life! But then he was biggest ignorant fool, never thought through, again ran away from the situation hiding, not sharing at least with Aman / Akash asap, went with reactive only response, we have to accept this truth. There are no rewards for being so stupid after such a critical incident that too when he is in film industry and a producer and filthy rich on his way to be a billionaire and his whole life's hard work and image is at stake.

Here I have no opinion. I’ll just reiterate the FF and ask you two questions.

1. FF clearly states that Arnav doesn’t judge people who indulge in such things. He said so to Lavanya and it is extremely common.

2. FF clearly state Lavanya was known to host raves but she herself mostly indulged only with alcohol and marijuana. It’s still illegal in india but we have to be very delusional to think that newer generation does not think that darkly of it. Arnav also didn’t.

3. Despite this, Lavanya has a great image not only in public’s eye but in Bollywood as well. In fact even Akash didn’t think that Lavanya might be deceiving him. Aman went looking after her because he already knows something that hasn’t been revealed yet. He was stumped to see the woman ASR was talking about was Lavanya and went looking after her. Had Aman not had his reservations, he would have acted same as Akash and Arnav. There must be a reason it was added right??

4. And Arnav took care of the whole photo debacle in 7 days. Doesn’t it say just how influential he actually is? That if he did think Lavanya has an ulterior motive right after sleeping with her and she goes swinging at him , wouldn’t this man be confident that he can take her on? Given he’s way more powerful than her?

5. this is also a man who was acutely aware that more was at stake for Lavanya. He clearly states he is a public figure but nothing compared to Lavanya.

6. For him, it’s Lavanya who is in a more vulnerable position but virtue of being a popular actress and a woman. He actually thinks this in the FF and I’m not making this up. Why would he feel threatened??

7. In case you think my above point is wishful thinking, this was the same man who challenged Manali to try and drag him to court in this case. He did not mince his words. He literally challenged a very infamous Manali to try and drag him to court. Does that sound like a man who thought he would be unable to take them on if it comes to it? And this is when he did not even know about the deceit. This is when he thinks he is responsible and yet has enough resources to get him out of any shit. 🤷‍♀️

7. The moment Lavanya gets involved in his life again, he immediately mobilised his lawyers. Yes, his first instinct was to protect Khushi, but his entire communication with Lavanya is through his lawyers lenses. He has in fact used exact words given by his lawyers.

and if we haven’t noticed, they have not yet been able to do shit to him legally. They only took him to a ride because he was being a decent human, repenting for his mistake.

Now I’ll come to my question to you.


let’s say I give in to your version of the story. Let’s say Arnav did exactly what you said. How is it going to change the outcome??

1. Imagine he learns he was drugged after getting medically tested. This is something Aman also mentioned and Arnav immediately directed the investigation to Manali. But what did he say to Aman when Aman asked let’s bring Khushi bhabhi back? He says no.

And I have said that in my previous comment, he holds himself to inhuman standards. What he can blame on drugs, he can also blame on alcohol. He was out of his mind drunk according to him and the woman confessed she came on to him, and he still decided he wasn’t worthy of Khushi anymore. So it didn’t matter to him what Aman told.

That idiot thinks he shouldn’t have allowed this based only on a couple of fleeting memories. Had he learnt he was drugged, he would still divorce Khushi because he is a culprit in his own eyes. So he doesn’t listen to Aman’s set up theory because it doesn’t matter to him.

Plus, since January he is looking into the party being a setup is he not? This is pure nitpicking. That has he done it a month earlier it would somehow change things. Let’s say he tells Khushi he may have been drugged, khushi would have asked did you remember it wasn’t me, what do you think his answer would have been based on his response to Aman??

The only thing it would have changed is Arnav would have done what he originally planned to do. He would have told Khushi the day she came back. If anything, it would have hastened divorce even more. He would still tell Khushi he cheated on her.

In his own words, based only on a couple of fleeting moments, he had told Khushi his mistake is not forgivable.

So even if your version of correct would have happened in the story, there’s absolutely no outcome change!

So he may be the dumbest man on the planet according to your version, but he has actually done things to minimise any kind of conflict. That’s the biggest indicator of smartness for me and I’m sure many other people, is that you don’t go all guns blazing in a war where you have bigger collateral. The sensibility lies in letting things go. Which he was happily ready to do unless La Am dragged Khushi.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

plus I think the writer wrote it herself. An actress has more to lose. She was the organizer of the party. She was never going to call the police or get all legal on Arnav when it would open the can of worms on her!!

Why should Arnav care about La when his own dignity, rapport is at stake? He is 34 years old man who was trying baby with his own wife. So you want me to believe Arnav did not know consequences of unprotected s*x irrespective of who was involved, actress or not? He didn't think about a situation where the woman can be pregnant is bummer and scar on his intelligence then. Can anyone hide pregnancy of all the things?

Again you misread my comment. Me saying that Arnav thinks La cannot get police involved in an ILLEGAL RAVE is an ADVANTAGE TO HIM. it’s his safety cushion which tells him Lavanya will keep this ONS under the wraps. Which is why he didn’t need to be as paranoid as you wanted him to be.

Plus he already said that you don’t have a birth control at place? Lavanya is at the peak of her career. Who has more to lose in case of unwanted pregnancy? Clearly Lavanya!! When rest of things are obvious, why isn’t this obvious assumption in an industry where sex is way too open? And Arnav KNOWS it?

And may I remind you he isn’t wrong. Lavanya does have in IUD in place.

I have written plenty in my last answer why he didn’t need to be as paranoid as you needed him to be and how it would make no change at all. He’d still be dying of guilt and divorcing khushi.

what I listed here is ARNAV’s LEVERAGE OVER LAVANYA. NOT HIS CARE FOR HER REPUTATION.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Again you are overlooking most important aspect of her life, her dark side. Arnav didn't know anything about La other than she is an actress with a clean image and professional. But by Oct 8th, Arnav had first hand experience about she running RAVEs and is so casual about having drugs, sleeping / s*x with married or unknown men shouldn't put a doubt in anyone's mind? Would it not make anyone rethink about her image instantly? First thing one should think is what else she could be hiding? Also she is a woman sleeping around freely, how does she manage to keep her image clean? Did she ever get preggo and hide that too? These are natural thoughts.

Am I the only curious monkey here or think differently here? But in my group of women we all think like this, most of us will shot Arnav down like what a duffer? I am sorry but that's the truth. Maybe in USA, suing is so common, you are prepared always and think proactively about everything all the time.

La is professional or not is never a question, he needed to certain things for himself, not even for his wife, so thinking about La is out of question for me. He needed to do it for his own dignity and self respect. We all can live with people pointing fingers at us, but is it easy to live guilt?

And him not doing things for himself is not new. I mean for real, he got fired and his first finger pointed at himself that he should have seen it coming. This is after his bloody boss encouraged him to take the topic!!!


having said that, I desperately wish he finds out if he was drugged. I wish even if he was not drugged, he can go to therapy where someone helps him understand that he was not at fault. Not the way that he thinks he was. Infact I am sure if he narrates the whole thing properly to Khushi, she will help him heal.

I completely agree with your last line here. It’s not easy living with this kind of guilt. And this is exactly why my heart breaks for him. He has a tendency to do this to himself and he’s going to make himself pay. So here I agree with you. I wish he finds out. I wish that gives him some peace because he is dying with guilt right now 💔

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Next day he was normal right? Then a simple blood test within 72 hours would have saved his day which he didn't do. And as I pointed out in past, we run those HR courses for a reason, he is 34 so he has done that course at least 13 times in his life, to use it when real situation occurs. He needs to practice what he and his company preaches the employees.

he wasn’t normal next day. He was wondering how he hasn’t killed himself or anyone else driving over here. He couldn’t stand at his own house. He couldn’t breathe at his own house.

And thus he went to a trip where he was physically punishing himself.

Another thing that I want to point out and it’s extremely sad but also the truth of the matter.

I have worked with my family’s business. I have also worked with two corporates here in india. I’ve gone through several harassment trainings. And this might come as a shock to you, but being drugged/roofied isn’t even part of the mandatory trainings.

Corporates here are only concerned with workplace harassment and the trainings only include who to reach out in case of something going down. They wouldn’t even use the word intercourse, forced or r*pe there.

in case of Arnav being a businessman of such stature, I have already listed down how confident he was about going to the court and how resourceful he really is to put away the photo blunder.

the only reason he got conned is because he pitied a pregnant woman, that too because it reminded him of two females closest to him. He clearly says he feels no sympathy for Lavanya but duty demands that he fakes some 💔

However Swati, I will also add the points where I completely agree.

khushi deserved none of it. I can find it in my heart to trust that Arnav’s intentions were right but I have cried buckets for Khushi.

she has absolutely expected nothing of him, and he OWED her that honest conversation. She didn’t deserve months of ridicule because he can’t deal with his guilt.

My take is simple. Even the author said so.

We cried buckets for Khushi because we are feeling what Arnav felt in the last chapter. It’s his pov. It’s his guilt. It’s his mistakes and it’s his hell. We cried for Khushi because Arnav cried for Khushi. We berated Arnav because he berated himself and we agreed to every word he said.

And just for those intentions I wish that he works on himself. There’s already a new entry. Khushi, in such a broken state may as well move on. And I think I would accept that too.

But I cannot understand the hatred for his character when all I feel is sympathy and that a man as decent as him, who has had his fair share of struggles in life, deserves a chance with a woman he had loved in his own twisted way.

And that I think is the base difference between how I see him and how you see him. I can see his mistakes and still acknowledge that up until a time, khushi believed she wanted nothing more in her life than this wonderful man who laid down the world at her feet. ♥️

Last line is Khushi’s words not mine. That too during December 15.

If she can think like this about Arnav after a year of heartbreak, then i am assuming Arnav did at least something right in his 10 years of relationship.💔

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

I absolutely get your point as to why couldn’t she say that I don’t want kid but you. Trust me I really do, love! ❤️

Please let me reiterate that she did exactly that in her letter. After an absolute vile behaviour from Arnav. She sat down and found faults within herself not him.

Your question is why she didn’t say it during those four months is because Arnav wasn’t dying in guilt that way the way he did towards the end of the year. He was back with her in the room, giving her a hope of a normal world on the horizon. He wasn’t sulking around. He said he half heartedly tried.

You said you want Khushi to say Arnav you’re enough and that’s exactly what she did in those four months. Her priority was him and getting things normal between them not the baby. Even Arnav saw that she was trying to just spend time with him. She couldn’t directly talk about the baby because he was the one blowing his fuse over it and putting his foot down.

Also, this is us expecting Khushi to give up her lifelong dream the first moment Arnav gets troubled. I don’t think it’s right especially when Arnav won’t talk. She is his wife. She has the right to have at least some discussions with him about her biggest desires.

And I will say it again. This is exactly what she said in her letter. She gave up the baby idea in December finally. She didn’t blame him. She blamed herself and explicitly told him he was enough. ❤️

Edit - also I’m not sure what gave this impression that Arnav had panic attacks during those four months. Given how attuned she is to him, Khushi would have given up anything for Arnav if she saw those regular sign of troubles. Arnav himself mused. He went back to room and she forced no baby talk on him. She only wanted to spend time and make things normal. Unfortunately, for Arnav his own guilt was enough. He pretended that things were fine and then left her out of the blue one day. This Khushi believe me, will not do that to him if she ever saw he was affected this way. That is because he was not. These were the most guilt free 4 months he had because he was finally doing what Khushi wanted. His guilt comes from his own realisation that he had lied to her.

He could have told her that instead of leaving and I assure you, the way her character is written, all he had to do was tell her how much it troubles him and she would let that go in a heartbeat. The whole year got feather because he didn’t talk and she had to play the guessing game.

I hope the explaination eased things a bit for you! 😘

Out of all people in the world, Khushi is probably the only one to give a damn about his mental health. She is the one who understood his need to devote his time to his work and was happily accommodating of the fact up until last year which is making her question 10 years worth of things that she did. She is the only one that vocalises and tells him that his presence is enough and he doesn’t need to run around to be useful. She is the only one who correctly (by Arnav’s admission) understood how much he loved and missed his family and didn’t stop mending the bridge despite Arnav’s outwardly taunts. ❤️

Maybe then I misunderstood the whole scenario!!! But this thing is big, this should have been discussed. They both didn’t discuss about baby even when they were trying for it makes it really stupid then. She was sleeping with him , trying to make things normal before they embark on their journey towards parenthood. But it still put pressure on him, I am more confused now. Yes, she was hurt but she still kept her hurt to herself . I never wanted khushi to give up on her desires about children, I couldn’t why would I want any other woman to. My understanding came from
“Khushi couldn’t help but squeal in joy when Akash handed Leher to her, the baby who was going to be as ferocious as Payal and as tenacious as Akash. She was going to be spoiled rotten by all the love her parents, her aunts and uncles were going to shower on her because she was the first of this next generation. Soon, other friends will also have their little bundle of joys, and Khushi will have so many nieces and nephews to love, pamper and shield from all that is bad in this world. Tears of pure joy streamed out of her eyes at the realisation, and when baby Leher opened her eyes and looked at her, Khushi couldn’t help but chuckle amidst the sobs.”

“Khushi’s heart sank at the last thought. Over the years, she had been sure that Arnav would change his mind someday and that is exactly where she had been the most wrong in reading him. Wounds heal, notions change; don’t they? But after their last fight over the topic, which had pulled them apart in a way, she had realized that it may just be a permanent thing. He said he wouldn’t change his mind, he said he couldn’t change his mind and Khushi could almost feel him being at the edge. He was fighting on one side alone, the other side had his own wife, mother and father; and the battle had started taking a toll on him.”

“So, when he offered the ride back home and said he was ready for kids in the car, Khushi couldn’t help but stare. For a moment, happiness flooded her very bones. This was all she had ever wanted. Her family was about to be complete. Arnav, who had laid the world at her feet, was finally granting her one wish that would trump all others. She could be a mother. Arnav could be a father.

But the electricity that had jolted her into shock for a moment was gone the next instant. Arnav may be a master in hiding his emotions from the world but as Khushi had often told herself, she could read him ninety nine percent of the time. And she would often regret that this was the one time, where she could read him like an open book.

His hands have been gripping the steering wheel like his life depended on it. He was staring at the road ahead, breathing slightly elevated, and he was gulping repeatedly to keep his voice steady. This was the first time Khushi realized what the thought of having children actually did to her husband. Prior to this, it was always his anger and irritation that came forward. This time, she saw his troubles. He was getting overwhelmed at the mere words. This wasn’t something he had thought about, because else Arnav Singh Raizada would have been an epitome of confidence. No, he was doing this impulsively.”

Sorry I missed this section a little

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At this point, she will get back to her Arnav one day at a time. Everything else could wait. Maybe someday, he will be fully and honestly onboard with the idea of a kid. Till then, she will wait.

And yet, they never came back to each other. The simmering problems and a broken communication won over the half-hearted attempts for a baby and this time when Arnav went away, Khushi did not know what to do anymore.”

My bad , reread the chapter again. But to me this was a turning point in their relationship, earlier they did come back to each other, but things became more permanent this time. I understand khushi’s anger at him leaving again, but this time she more or less knew the reason. I still would have thought rather than being miserable and hiding her hurt she confronted her husband of ten years!!! This is where I fail to understand her and to me if you don’t tell anyone what’s hurting you no one will understand. Same for Arnav!!!
I guess she was correct in gathering resources, she was successful but timing played bitch on them.
I am sorry to anyone who got hurt by my anger on khushi!!! I should have read the chapter again …. But she did understand Arnav didn’t want children and her this attempt did solidify his guilt and his own in capabilities about the baby topic. They both failed to talk Arnav more than khushi to let each other know what they are thinking. Then the avalanche of misfortune came down to them .

Originally posted by: Arilip

Maybe then I misunderstood the whole scenario!!! But this thing is big, this should have been discussed. They both didn’t discuss about baby even when they were trying for it makes it really stupid then. She was sleeping with him , trying to make things normal before they embark on their journey towards parenthood. But it still put pressure on him, I am more confused now. Yes, she was hurt but she still kept her hurt to herself . I never wanted khushi to give up on her desires about children, I couldn’t why would I want any other woman to. My understanding came from
“Khushi couldn’t help but squeal in joy when Akash handed Leher to her, the baby who was going to be as ferocious as Payal and as tenacious as Akash. She was going to be spoiled rotten by all the love her parents, her aunts and uncles were going to shower on her because she was the first of this next generation. Soon, other friends will also have their little bundle of joys, and Khushi will have so many nieces and nephews to love, pamper and shield from all that is bad in this world. Tears of pure joy streamed out of her eyes at the realisation, and when baby Leher opened her eyes and looked at her, Khushi couldn’t help but chuckle amidst the sobs.”

“Khushi’s heart sank at the last thought. Over the years, she had been sure that Arnav would change his mind someday and that is exactly where she had been the most wrong in reading him. Wounds heal, notions change; don’t they? But after their last fight over the topic, which had pulled them apart in a way, she had realized that it may just be a permanent thing. He said he wouldn’t change his mind, he said he couldn’t change his mind and Khushi could almost feel him being at the edge. He was fighting on one side alone, the other side had his own wife, mother and father; and the battle had started taking a toll on him.”

“So, when he offered the ride back home and said he was ready for kids in the car, Khushi couldn’t help but stare. For a moment, happiness flooded her very bones. This was all she had ever wanted. Her family was about to be complete. Arnav, who had laid the world at her feet, was finally granting her one wish that would trump all others. She could be a mother. Arnav could be a father.

But the electricity that had jolted her into shock for a moment was gone the next instant. Arnav may be a master in hiding his emotions from the world but as Khushi had often told herself, she could read him ninety nine percent of the time. And she would often regret that this was the one time, where she could read him like an open book.

His hands have been gripping the steering wheel like his life depended on it. He was staring at the road ahead, breathing slightly elevated, and he was gulping repeatedly to keep his voice steady. This was the first time Khushi realized what the thought of having children actually did to her husband. Prior to this, it was always his anger and irritation that came forward. This time, she saw his troubles. He was getting overwhelmed at the mere words. This wasn’t something he had thought about, because else Arnav Singh Raizada would have been an epitome of confidence. No, he was doing this impulsively.”

Sorry I missed this section a little

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At this point, she will get back to her Arnav one day at a time. Everything else could wait. Maybe someday, he will be fully and honestly onboard with the idea of a kid. Till then, she will wait.

And yet, they never came back to each other. The simmering problems and a broken communication won over the half-hearted attempts for a baby and this time when Arnav went away, Khushi did not know what to do anymore.”

My bad , reread the chapter again. But to me this was a turning point in their relationship, earlier they did come back to each other, but things became more permanent this time. I understand khushi’s anger at him leaving again, but this time she more or less knew the reason. I still would have thought rather than being miserable and hiding her hurt she confronted her husband of ten years!!! This is where I fail to understand her and to me if you don’t tell anyone what’s hurting you no one will understand. Same for Arnav!!!
I guess she was correct in gathering resources, she was successful but timing played bitch on them.
I am sorry to anyone who got hurt by my anger on khushi!!! I should have read the chapter again …. But she did understand Arnav didn’t want children and her this attempt did solidify his guilt and his own in capabilities about the baby topic. They both failed to talk Arnav more than khushi to let each other know what they are thinking. Then the avalanche of misfortune came down to them .

But I am really intrigued how she doesn’t even have a clue that Arnav has scars so deep!!! The whole family managed to keep her away from something that has created so much rift in the family. I wonder how much hurt is waiting for her. I wish she comes out of this self pity, I see the signs already. But I do want her to know what her husband is facing.