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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



i abs agree with you.

that was not asr.

this was ridiculous.

i tried very hard to live with it the first time i saw, thinking this is some heavy duty clever ipk thing.

but no.

if you notice up there, i just wrote to durga just that... barun was not available most likely.

but to to write it this way was not right. they indeed should have waited.

actually after this the place that really got me hooked again was that marvellous fight after asr was terrible to khushi... now that... that raving at khushi and saying why did you even come into my life... that i can well imagine asr doing... and then falling apart. caught between his love for his sister and the one he loves more than his life... yes, he can do that. and we always end up hurting the one we love more... at least asr does, so do i he he.

something happened at the door to shantivan. i am sure it was written differently initially... perhaps they had asr and khushi talking about how to go about this... then everything was changed.


that's what I also think what I marked red.
the story actually messed up when Khushi and Arnav entered the raizada house. They could deftly make up Barun's absence. If they could make up for 45 days then why not some more days. One thing is really insensible that the most important and beloved person of the house got kidnapped and after spending terrible fifteen days in the hostage, when he finally came back, they didn't even care to give him some respite and started to prosecute the matter. I guess Horizon mentioned it, they even didn't offer him water. I would rather love to see this drama taking place some later in a more wise manner, not in such a melodramatic way, where Shyam mauled Khushi in the meanest way. CVS failed in this matter and tarnished ASR's image.

And those harsh words what ASR said,made me hurt, but I accepted. as you said sometimes we hurt our very own people the way we don't mean.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 279/280

the most significant thing about these two episodes is, i really remember nothing.

except for maybe this.

honestly, nothing made a scratch or dent or scribble in the mind.

this could be because now i know the whole kidnap story is pointless and inept plot construction. whne i thought there was a story here, i did find khushi throwing herself into doing even what gives her the creeps to get her arnav ji back, intersting.

she uses the word "ghin" again and again while speaking of shyam... and later she told him he has no idea to what extent she can go for arnav ji... kis had talk gir sakte hain... how much i can fall, is i think what she says.

and in that the writers wrap up this sub plot idea neatly... but alas the main action has no meaning, so all this is pointless. made me think of the witness for the prosecution by agatha christie, where the wife does all sorts of things to save her husband, including dressing up as an old woman and making her own testimony seem unreliable, when the lawyer asks her if she'd done all this because so sure her husband was not the murderer, she replies, no, it was because she knew he was.


but here, forget a smashing twist, even the basic linear tale was not there...

and a confounding mystery.

how can those who had written telepathy for 278 and teri meri for 277, even begin to write janpath pendant pen drive bilge in the very nexyt episode.😆

and really, now that rhea has brought in chip and dale... why were nk and khushi doing that loud act at the poolside. don't they know that place is meant for subtle, sheer romance... fairylights, almost kisses, hamari dhadkane, throwing out of bride, divine hurlings of i hate you, hum bhi aap se nafrat karte hain, even crick in the neck and a checkout by forum girls of colour of underwear.

no no this is not the place to be discussing jiju's, ugh i hate this jiju thing, plans. and suddenly khushi starts talking about asking the right questions. how that would lead them to finding out his whereabouts. really?

"jab humey in sab sawalon ke jawab mil jaayenge toh who jawab humey arnav ji ke paas le jayga," sounds very interesting as though many questions will be answered... well, they won't. this is a whole lot of meaningless talk to keep the audience hooked.

did not work... because the most important sawal had not been asked...

dear audience, are you fools?

it was just assumed we were.

really bad episode... lots of hamming.

to add ipk style to a supposedly tense episode, some crazy funnies were added... payal, akash and buaji got caught in the chameli tel and eye making tactics of ensnaring your man.😆 i did giggle, but not for long.



nani was worried about her grandson. at last, someone was saying something is strange about the man not coming back.

a lot of tense eyes swivelling around and giving me a headache later, shyam decided to have a rude conversation with rocky and tell him to send gifts to asr's home from asr. why must he sound so crass and almost careless. one rather funny thing though, kidnappers are getting fed up... they were not paid to work for so many days, the idea was to finish off the guy... not keep him alive, tolerate his ways, take care of his diabetes... oh the everyday problems of hoods and those they call boss.

one more thing, shyam, asr is in scotland according to the fam. i don't think you get in chandni chowk the things scotland is known for... watching this nonsense is making me want to have a couple of quick shots of a typically scottish thing.😆

however, since star plus, 4 lions and all writers have decided we are indeed not too affected by grey cells, rocky does some shopping in daryaganj or wherever, puts it in a cardboard carton and sends it off to shantivan... direct from scotland.😆

actually harry potter is from there, maybe the story could do with some help from wizards and witches. or perhaps we could get another scottish gentleman and his wife over, since clearly a murder is in the making. i speak of mr and mrs macbeth. oh all the hubble and bubble and toil and trouble of kidnap... but, dear people, what's the plot.

never mind... a gorgeous man, now looking extremely tired in a room stacked with cartons and dust and forever shamelessly naked bulbs, has rushed around madly for a pen, he will write a note on a restaurant bill to his wife telling her he is close to this place.

being the only one with some serious grey cells here and with a complete lack of love for hamming and melodrama, he gets straight to the point... can't write his name, must write something the kidnapper won't get, but the wife will. so what should he write...

feel like yelling at writer. you had to find some way to do that cutesie pie laad governor love note thing, to help khushi and nk reach the hideout. couldn't you find anything to exploit other than nani's love? and she should have been asking this question a few times before, then it might have made some sense also.

all along there's a feeling that the story is being constantly pushed around, changes at will, practically every day.

and that khushi in red all over shyam in his lust, was nauseating.




I was laughing throughout.
Really so incoherent script! They were actually procrastinating the matter and gyrating in one place.
Oh Gosh, the gifts from chandni chawk made me laugh for sure. who send saree and kurta from scotland or moreover the sender is classy ASR!
You are frustrated about NK and Khushi's talk by the poolside! How cum you forget Shyam and Anjali's wet romance there! don't you know there are only few places in that rich Raizada house where they can talk or do whatever.
And you are right about nani. This is the only character cvs didn't mess up with.
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Posted: 10 years ago

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Episode 288
Khushiii
Life has taken a spun
A slip, a fall and you are gone
Am suddenly surrounded by no one
This shrill silence is unbearable Khushiii
I need you, I want you,
I want to hold you close to me forever ... for ever
Blue skies and the greens around
Everyone, except you, can hear my sound
A million times I called out now
A sparkle in blue, is that you Khushiii?
I found you, I got you
I will keep you close to me forever ... and ever
Why do you not open your eyes?
Why does your hand not show any life?
I am telling you to breathe dammit
Please please say something Khushiii
I need you, I want you,
I can't live without you forever ... never
You can't do this to me
Help me survive and leave me
When my heart beats, then why not yours?
Did you just reply my call Khushiii?
I heard you, I got you,
I won't let you leave me forever ... or ever
Lots of hugs and kisses for you
You don't know how much I need you
Was desperate my shirt you'd hold
You brought my smile back once again Khushiii
I found you, I got you,
We'll be with each other forever ... and ever.


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loved it❤️
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Posted: 10 years ago



Originally posted by indi52

episode 286/7/8



love slipped out and was free finally. it landed a flying kick on dread, shoved terror away with a lethal punch in the gut, grabbed the collar of betrayal and said don't mess with me. then pointed the gun at fear's head and rasped through gritted teeth, "paani hai, plan barbaad ho gaya?!"
A seeti i am bajaaoing and a chavanni i am tossing at both, that shiznit of a scene where the line was oh so neatly delivered, and your super swell rendition of it above!!
a long time ago they'd got him. on a night when he was too vulnerable, too young to fight back. they trapped him in a scream and locked him right in. a heart that ached, that tore and ripped, hardened instead, combating demons that wouldn't let him go. he couldn't walk away, they took him and walled him in.

they planned to set him on fire some day.

but then arrived water laughing and babbling like a brook, speeding on a scooter hell bent on reaching her destination like a river, a girl from gomti sadan. she raced to meet her destiny...
Gomti Sadan, which literally means House of Gomti... the river gomti is said to be the most vivifying tributary of Ganga. Amazing, how deep your metaphor runs..and can be traced right back to the beauteous beginnings of this story.

and down from the sky came a man called ocean and said he never misses his mark. little knowing, he was the nishana, a river was on its way to find her ocean.
And that makes my heart ache, my darling indus. What romance in your words...

It also takes me back, somewhat tangentially, to a title of a movie (and novella), "A river runs through it"...the title suddenly finding a new meaning in your words...



as i watched the terrifically well shot fight sequences and chase and the magnificent clifftop scenes of these episodes, i could hardly think. every second was thrilling and then you were thrown straight into the grandeur of a man and a woman and a feeling melded with air water earth fire.


was this not a movie? a tacky hindi tv serial merely?
But clearly made by movie lovers! The power packed sequences of this triad of episodes, feels like a tribute to the action genre of films. Physical feat, extended fight, frenetic chase...all done here so resourcefully and inventively - no stunts, big explosions or visual effects - just good old-fashioned fist fighting and gunplay - Hitchcock of "North by Northwest", as also Manmohan Desai and Prakash Mehra, and James Bond of yore - masters of the game all, i am reminded of as i say good old fashioned.. The things that stood out for me about the action in 286/7/8.. a)how much they were able to cover on a presumably low budget, no corners seemed to have been cut in lending credibility to the maar-dhaad and b)how well action was fused with emotion. This was not action for action's sake, as easily tends happen when story and character take a backseat once the drums start to roll for "thrill" and "adventure". The whole thing was felt all the way through... the characters, both, stuck to their "guns" (pun bhery intendedwa), staying true to their feeling in the moment. Emotion was never lost sight of. And the splendid Raizada man, so fluid-bodied there, if there is such a word, displayed an uncanny, remarkable comfort level, dhishum after glorious dhishum, as if that's what he was born to do... his actor lending incredible weight to it all.

shyam realised he had been duped by khushi and gave the order to burn the place down, set asr on fire... the horror of that moment.

his wife shrilly wailed to her aunt that she was hallucinating even as she clung on to her vaham, her essential hallucination of a perfect husband... the ever practical aunt brought her beloved niece home and called out to the servant for water. the servant was named after god, of course.

"hari prakas, paani deo jaldi se!" and god seemed to bring water raining down on arnav singh raizada. rocky opened a window and hurled a fluid from a plastic jerrycan at asr. he was drenched... and i was shocked thinking that was diesel.

the first time i saw this scene i had no idea a switch had been made. but he smelled the liquid, being the ever pragmatic and focused man he is with a curious mind that never stops ticking. he knew this was no gasoline. yet he waited to see what the goons were up to, he had tackled a couple of them earlier, but now there were many more, he had to strategise.

what was interesting was that ticking mind.

he had actually allowed it to be bludgeoned on the night of the terrace, and stopped thinking... making a terrible mistake.surrounded by every demon of his, he had screamed again and they had reinforced the trap. water had not won that night, darkness had. So well said..

but this time he was not going to just give in to death as he had at 14, nor to fear as on that other night. this time, he was somehow better armed to take it on.

he had to meet her in sheeshmahal, didn't he. and she had to find her way to him in some strange and unpredictable way, didn't she. that evening too there had been a switch... she was not supposed to be on that ramp. yet she was. and she fell into his arms, crash landing and just refused to disappear after that... running after him at the dargah, insisting she'd work in his office, making deals with his girl friend to stay on and teach her... as he said that night before rakhi, she just refused to go away.

^^^Wonderful choice of image!
to break down that hard wall of terrible adversaries... lallan, rocky, stand back for you are nothing compared to dread, death, terror, ache, fear, pain, anger, betrayal... to vanquish them, he needed to be reached, touched, brought back to life. water is fluid, it flows into places solids can't, it seeps in through cracks and crevices and finds a way to get in, stay.


she did find her way into him. the day he smiled at her antics, was perhaps the first day he took a step toward fighting every demon off. and no matter how much he tried to not feel for her, believing she had betrayed his trust even, nothing worked, she kept flowing in... on laughter, smiles, her utter upbeat rhythm, her sanka, her sweetness. he could not resist. and as he said to her just a couple of days ago... she had found him, haan, mujhe dhoond liya tumne. was that not really about her making her way, against all odds, right into his being? his heart?


when lallan's matches fizzled out, he knew only one person could have made that switch... the little sizzler who would not be put down, never fizzle out... and with a smile of wonder and pride came, "khushi kumari gupta singh raizada!"


she popped up from behind packing cases, gleeful at having succeeded, and thanking devi maiyya, for a few moments so much the sparkling girl of the first episode. fresh and full of trust.

then arrived shyam and his disgusting frenzy. seemed he'd have loved her more if he'd known she were so twisted. an interesting conversation about how "gire hui" was she. and a bold assertion by her that for her husband's sake she would fall even further if necessary, because she loved him... so much. but perhaps what i enjoyed hearing most was her cutting tone when she told him she was nothing like him, shyam... nothing.A line there i enjoyed very much..seeti maar, bhuns more... "hadden paar karna aapko hi nahin humein bhi aata hai". Wildly good!!


the first time i saw these episodes, and this time too, shyam made practically no impression... his story was weak, his acting flat. and given the beauty unfolding elsewhere, i really did not care.

but before i dump him, i wonder what was that about "pandrah din". asr had got only fifteen days to live... now that was done. was this in some way a reference to the dark period in one's life? in crooner, priya had talked about the fifteen days standing for a "paksha"... there are two in each month, one dark/krishna when the moon wanes, the other bright/shukla when it waxes. is this a refernce really to the dark phase in arnav singh raizada's life ending though it is flipped to sound the other way round and the dark one, shyam/krishna, speaks of it?
All profoundness escaped me there...i simply assumed the fifteen days was a legal technicality/formality Shyam had to consider for the new vaseeyat papers to become legit...


the ocean had decided he needed to meet his life force. arnav singh raizada was going to come out if his wife was out here. the fabulous fight between ugly hoods and a beautiful man that ensued was so gracefully filmed, him throwing off barriers and flowing toward us, almost like a tide coming in... a sense of freedom in it.

a stunning communication when he burst out of the godown and standing on the verandah caught sight of her for the first time. almost instantly a smile flashed, no matter they were in the middle of absolute danger. and she smiled back ever so slightly right back at him... a connection, a giving of breath to each other... of life... a moment of immortality... and rabba ve of course was the name of this moment.

he didn't see shyam, in a fairly well directed (not so in my opinion, no way the Raizada didn't see any of him...that scumbag, he'd have spotted even in shadow) placing of actors and camera angles, this got done. and onto the ballet like chase, a terribly handsome man with hair tossed by the wind and a search in his eyes in an open top rugged vehicle (perfect choice of vehicle methinks...am a jeep driver myself, oh the power it fills you with. And here, he felt like the best modern day knight in shining armor possible...white horse and all be damned. Hotstuff and that "vaahan" of his to bring him back to the real world...utter insane beauty!)followed by a clutch of murderous men on bikes, while in front raced the small half man who so wanted to be the big guy with the girl who now feared even less, now that her arnav ji was here and determined to reach her.




she had saved him, now it was his turn. i wondered why we had to come all the way to death for their story to complete. the words "jeetey ji", while one's alive was used by both shyam and khushi. as long as she were alive, she would not let any harm come to arnav ji, she spat out at shyam as 287 began. shyam vowed what asr hadn't given him while he lived, he would give him by dying... khushi ji.

but then i felt, it had to come to death. and betrayal.


for it had all started with death and betrayal... of a loved one, and by a loved one. and it had to come back to the death and betrayal of a loved one and by a loved one for arnav singh raizada to be free
. and perhaps that's why there had to be that misunderstanding, where he believed the one he loved had broken his trust... he would have to grapple with that... and today he would have to see her in the grip of death. Amazing thought up there!

fire destroys fire... to catch a thief set a thief. and so his mother's death and his father's breaking of trust... khushi brought both spectres back to him. she the instrument that would let him live again. she that key... the mannat key, i suddenly thought. he had said "phenk do" but she wouldn't. she was that key on which a mannat stayed... maybe a dying mother's wish or am i being melodramatic?

a truly beautiful tale springs ridiculously elevating surprises at you... in these episodes ipk did that again and again. a moving story had been brewing in someone's heart... i am grateful that despite all the horrors that the trp chase brought upon us, the real story of ipk did not plunge to its death, it only seemed like that. it breathed dammit breathed. and a love story lived on.

what he had lost to death and betrayal, today he would have the chance to win all that back... but would he be able to?

need i have worried?


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how viciously the goons had tried to hold him down, but he brought forth all his physical might and prevailed. shyam gagged and bound her and left her to die under the tyres of his jeep... but he kept his head and swerved in time to save her (Unforgettable, that swerve...that mouthful of air while focusing hard on the swerving, most natural and beautiful to watch). he watched over her as the hoods caught up, and again fought with all he was when they circled him like vultures. but then he saw what he never ever thought he'd have to see.


khushi plunging to her death.

he forgot everything, he ran to save her. they tried to stop him, but he was not going to let them. lallan should thank his lucky stars, asr was too focused on khushi to bother to pull the trigger. he couldn't care less whether lallan died or not... khushi... where was khushi?

actually she had been on his mind from the moment he saw that water and realised it must have been her.


her name was on his lips constantly as he drove... and as she fell off the edge of the cliff.

khushi... khushi... khushiii had started already... he knew very well she couldn't hear him calling her from the car, then why was he saying her name? if we happen to be theist, the very name of god is considered powerful... to have the name on every breath is a form of praying, on the inhale, on the exhale... the name. Horizon wrote a lovely line in her poem...his breath caught in that tune, i think she said...lovely sentiment. And so staunchly true, when you really feel it...she has the same power as God for him...only her name brings solace in this cataclysmic time..

i did not count how many times he called her by her name... i just felt his devotion, his love, his conquest over himself... and the freedom within him. at long last.

in 286, we had been cooped up in a godown... in 287, it was the road... and now we reached the earth and the sky. rabba vey sang the wind, water flowed and washed away pain in untrammelled tears.


but before all that, again.. a smile. when he spotted her lying prone on the slope under a tree. his sister ad commented on it earlier... this crazy girl who'd stop at nothing to reach him, perhaps the most precious gift she released in him was his smile. his laughter.

it made him happy, it made him strong.

how moving was the acting by barun sobti as arnav singh raizada felt every terror, fear, pain, hurt, horror, tear, ripping of a single thought. khushi is no more.

he has always feared the loss of a near one. he cannot face it... he cannot take it. a part of him ends every time he thinks of his mother's death.

and now, khushi is gone?

when he was 14, he could not do a thing about what happened. but this time he was damn well not going to let anything happen. he ran about wildly, calling her, he spotted her, he gathered her in his arms and pulled her up and he sat on mother earth cradling his love in his arms, reviving her, calling her, telling her to come back... he spoke to her constantly, his fear perhaps propelling him, but also his determination not to let her go.

talk to me, say something, khushi khushi khushiii... and then he saw her hand fall limp to the ground, the hand that always held him when he lifted her... fear rushed through him. he remembered moments when she had spoken of dying... a chill clutched his heart, he checked to see if she breathed, he tried to resuscitate her, he told her to speak to him dammit, this was not funny. he commanded her to breathe. breathe.

he pleaded and said, she couldn't do this to him...


for endless minutes he did all he could to get her back, there alone on a clifftop, no one around, no help for miles around... and the sky and the earth watched quietly. I've always felt that the architecture of a person's surrounding speaks for him or her.. And it's beautiful to watch when in the visual medium, or in an audio play, or a book, the right landscape is picked to depict a state of mind or being. The silence here of the sky and earth in a sense reflected Khushi's state but the expanse spoke of the bigness of their love...the freedom of the Raizada man from his past, layers of pain ripping off, that you've spoken of a few times above...that is here too. The beauty and scale of the primal, elemental surrounding here for me also provides a natural theatre for this beautifully "operatic" scene unfolding... Life and death, and love...there's nothing more powerful in the world. It's a wonderful location to be here with these two characters, and in this moment.

he raged, he shouted, he seemed to be standing before the eternal and demanding she be brought back to him. every time fear came, he fought it off and grew more strident in his call to her. he had tried to reassure her at first, how very tenderly he'd said, look, everything is alright, you're okay, i'm fine, we're safe... open your eyes, khushi, say something. he'd thought she would respond... did i see a little child in him for a moment then? almost asking his mother to open his eyes, look at him, come back? he has been to this terrifying place before.


then he grew more and more desperate... and fierce... refusing to give in.

he tried to massage warmth back into her palms, to find a sign of life.

nothing.

whatever he could do using his powers of reasoning and thinking he did. nothing worked. she was not breathing.

he was bereft, broken... and with a desperate love for her in his heart, he turned to only that feeling and lifted her still hand and put it where it belonged, on his heart... the place she had streamed into despite all the barriers and walls and met the ocean within. his deep, vast heart. Beeeutiful writing!

holding her close, letting his tears come, he let his head rest on hers... khushi, he murmurred. this time perhaps sure, she would not answer...

hmmm?



















the heartbeat... their story was all about that after all. dhadkane. he was hers and she his... he seemed to give her her heartbeat back by putting her hand on his...

in that heartbeat perhaps today is a trust in life that was robbed a long while back.


when he heard her, for a moment, disbelief... and then a smile. yes, again a smile. arnav singh raizada has found a thousand different smiles with and for this love of his... each one says love in its own way...

she coughed as she started to breathe again, you could see a spray of saliva come and hit arnav singh raizada... why did that look so wonderful? felt real... I have absolutely loved that each time!!

and then with the most incredulous joy he turned to her and held her.

even the way he put his arm around her seemed to have changed and become more nurturing... like she was the most precious thing ever. and indeed she was. she was perhaps that pearl that made the scattering, the bikhar jaana of his entire life bearable.

he sat with her in his arms, smiling, crying, just being thankful... a grace in these moments. and sitting up there on the clifftop, we seemed to move up another level in this love story... going even deeper into the nature of love and reaching upward with an ambitious lunge.

she looked at him and she too had to say his name first... to have him near, to be in his arms, after the hell she has gone through these past few weeks and the damnation of having to be near another man... and yet, i don't think for even a second khushi doubted that her arnav ji would reach her and save her. her calm, tired smile seemed to say that. she tried to speak, he said shh shh, no need to say anything.


the first time too i'd found that intriguing. and it was beautiful that he believed her without her having to say a single thing later when she accused her culprit.

on the bridge the other day he had not been able to believe her even as she told him everything. but today, after all they had been through, and after he had finally battled and wrestled with demons and was at last free... he really did not need to hear anything any more.


he put her dupatta back on her shoulders in a telling gesture. her dupatta always said many things and it had been the last thing he'd seen as she fell. as he placed it where it belonged he seemed to say, he'd protect her honour always. It was a lovely gesture but to me his placing the dupatta back oh her shoulders where it belonged said "i love and respect every bit of who you are"


as he went to pick her up, her hand did go up as it always had, right from that day at the guest house and she clutched his vest...
oh the happiness on arnav singh raizada's face at that. And as an extension, on our faces too.. What a moment!

there was a sense of completion up there beneath the clear sky. the young man who had held darkness in his eyes, now his irises held a bright new light and the girl who had looked up at him petrified in his arms one night, now stroked his cheek lying comfortably in his arms, becoming his, making him her own. Lovely!

he carried her and walked to the car, a temple in the background, white pristine. the shots had a sense of the sacred and a larger than life feel, something elemental, big. like the feelings within, like the feelings without. I just said something similar above too!





on this clifftop, for the first time he said, though he did not complete the sentence perhaps because he couldn't, not when she was in this state... but he did realise clearly... main tumhare b-

i can't live without you.

if not for a great plot or even a rational basis for kidnap, for using it to reach this point, many thanks to the writers.

ipk would not be what it is without the acting of barun sobti and sanaya irani... these episodes again said that repeatedly to me. they made ipk breathe... even when everything tried to throw it over the cliff.



That was so rampantly felt and written by you, Indus! Thanks for adding divine new layers to the already exhilarating view of that hilltop..loved it.





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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

Thnx indi for reading twice ...The Rhythmic Hearts

page 67 and 88

The moment is compelling and irresistible . Glad you liked it.

But where is this boy???There is absolutely no whereabouts of him...that is an alarming sign ...and honestly speaking waste of talent...






i read twice? great... the writing deserved it, i bet... 😳
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Originally posted by indi52

episode 286/7/8




but then arrived water laughing and babbling like a brook, speeding on a scooter hell bent on reaching her destination like a river, a girl from gomti sadan. she raced to meet her destiny...
Gomti Sadan, which literally means House of Gomti... the river gomti is said to be the most vivifying tributary of Ganga. Amazing, how deep your metaphor runs..and can be traced right back to the beauteous beginnings of this story.

yeah, that gomti sadan and bhoolbhulaiya in episode one, not that i am hellbent on reading meaning and symbolism and whatever... but one had to notice them... didn't know gomti was the vivifying one... perfect fit, what.

and down from the sky came a man called ocean and said he never misses his mark. little knowing, he was the nishana, a river was on its way to find her ocean.
And that makes my heart ache, my darling indus. What romance in your words...

It also takes me back, somewhat tangentially, to a title of a movie (and novella), "A river runs through it"...the title suddenly finding a new meaning in your words...

robert redford? i used to love the man. never saw the film, guess i will some day.



as i watched the terrifically well shot fight sequences and chase and the magnificent clifftop scenes of these episodes, i could hardly think. every second was thrilling and then you were thrown straight into the grandeur of a man and a woman and a feeling melded with air water earth fire.


was this not a movie? a tacky hindi tv serial merely?
But clearly made by movie lovers! The power packed sequences of this triad of episodes, feels like a tribute to the action genre of films. Physical feat, extended fight, frenetic chase...all done here so resourcefully and inventively - no stunts, big explosions or visual effects - just good old-fashioned fist fighting and gunplay - Hitchcock of "North by Northwest", as also Manmohan Desai and Prakash Mehra, and James Bond of yore - masters of the game all, i am reminded of as i say good old fashioned.. The things that stood out for me about the action in 286/7/8.. a)how much they were able to cover on a presumably low budget, no corners seemed to have been cut in lending credibility to the maar-dhaad and b)how well action was fused with emotion. This was not action for action's sake, as easily tends happen when story and character take a backseat once the drums start to roll for "thrill" and "adventure". The whole thing was felt all the way through... the characters, both, stuck to their "guns" (pun bhery intendedwa), staying true to their feeling in the moment. Emotion was never lost sight of. And the splendid Raizada man, so fluid-bodied there, if there is such a word, displayed an uncanny, remarkable comfort level, dhishum after glorious dhishum, as if that's what he was born to do... his actor lending incredible weight to it all.

i really haven't seen such a neat fight sequence in a while... i almost thought shetty would emerge from behind some rock with a chain swinging in his beefy grip. ha, our lallan, he could have been from one of those seventies' films... yes, people with a thing for the movies made the show and whenever they got a chance they went for it... but really the surprising thing was the magnificent stuff produced on such meagre budgets and most significantly, as you so rightly point out, never action for action's sake, keenly tied to emotion. and oh the fluid-bodied one even without slow motion he moves like a stanley kunitz poem...


then arrived shyam and his disgusting frenzy. seemed he'd have loved her more if he'd known she were so twisted. an interesting conversation about how "gire hui" was she. and a bold assertion by her that for her husband's sake she would fall even further if necessary, because she loved him... so much. but perhaps what i enjoyed hearing most was her cutting tone when she told him she was nothing like him, shyam... nothing.A line there i enjoyed very much..seeti maar, bhuns more... "hadden paar karna aapko hi nahin humein bhi aata hai". Wildly good!!
it was a deadly line. actually, in a couple of shots while talking to shyam, as she smoothly moved from sanka devi to a woman in love and then just a woman with a sense of her own power, she was really really good. every once in a way a glimpse of what sanaya is capable of if she wants to get there. i really would love to see the two of them do a fairly seriousu film some day... see what they can do with that, how they shade it.



the first time i saw these episodes, and this time too, shyam made practically no impression... his story was weak, his acting flat. and given the beauty unfolding elsewhere, i really did not care.

but before i dump him, i wonder what was that about "pandrah din". asr had got only fifteen days to live... now that was done. was this in some way a reference to the dark period in one's life? in crooner, priya had talked about the fifteen days standing for a "paksha"... there are two in each month, one dark/krishna when the moon wanes, the other bright/shukla when it waxes. is this a refernce really to the dark phase in arnav singh raizada's life ending though it is flipped to sound the other way round and the dark one, shyam/krishna, speaks of it?
All profoundness escaped me there...i simply assumed the fifteen days was a legal technicality/formality Shyam had to consider for the new vaseeyat papers to become legit...

it possibly was, but since nothing ever got explained and that 15 days was given much bhav, i jhust wondered, bhat eej meaningj.



the ocean had decided he needed to meet his life force. arnav singh raizada was going to come out if his wife was out here. the fabulous fight between ugly hoods and a beautiful man that ensued was so gracefully filmed, him throwing off barriers and flowing toward us, almost like a tide coming in... a sense of freedom in it.

a stunning communication when he burst out of the godown and standing on the verandah caught sight of her for the first time. almost instantly a smile flashed, no matter they were in the middle of absolute danger. and she smiled back ever so slightly right back at him... a connection, a giving of breath to each other... of life... a moment of immortality... and rabba ve of course was the name of this moment.

he didn't see shyam, in a fairly well directed (not so in my opinion, no way the Raizada didn't see any of him...that scumbag, he'd have spotted even in shadow)

i know, which is why i sort of had to mention the direction. everything else was fabulous, but this, fairly well directed, whatever that means. but having said that, in the madness of that moment, one might have not clearly seen or recognised the man in black whose face was never quite visible...

placing of actors and camera angles, this got done. and onto the ballet like chase, a terribly handsome man with hair tossed by the wind and a search in his eyes
in an open top rugged vehicle (perfect choice of vehicle methinks...am a jeep driver myself, oh the power it fills you with. And here, he felt like the best modern day knight in shining armor possible...white horse and all be damned. Hotstuff and that "vaahan" of his to bring him back to the real world...utter insane beauty!)
he was yes insanely beautiful in that vaahan... agree, the perfect chase vehicle for our man, if along the way, a la good hindi flick he's leapt from jeep to bike, hayee sone pe sohaga...

followed by a clutch of murderous men on bikes, while in front raced the small half man who so wanted to be the big guy with the girl who now feared even less, now that her arnav ji was here and determined to reach her.





she had saved him, now it was his turn. i wondered why we had to come all the way to death for their story to complete. the words "jeetey ji", while one's alive was used by both shyam and khushi. as long as she were alive, she would not let any harm come to arnav ji, she spat out at shyam as 287 began. shyam vowed what asr hadn't given him while he lived, he would give him by dying... khushi ji.

but then i felt, it had to come to death. and betrayal.





for endless minutes he did all he could to get her back, there alone on a clifftop, no one around, no help for miles around... and the sky and the earth watched quietly. I've always felt that the architecture of a person's surrounding speaks for him or her.. And it's beautiful to watch when in the visual medium, or in an audio play, or a book, the right landscape is picked to depict a state of mind or being. The silence here of the sky and earth in a sense reflected Khushi's state but the expanse spoke of the bigness of their love...the freedom of the Raizada man from his past, layers of pain ripping off, that you've spoken of a few times above...that is here too. The beauty and scale of the primal, elemental surrounding here for me also provides a natural theatre for this beautifully "operatic" scene unfolding... Life and death, and love...there's nothing more powerful in the world. It's a wonderful location to be here with these two characters, and in this moment.

beautiful thought... the atmosphere always a reflection of the humans it surrounds and permeates.. loved the operatic.




he put her dupatta back on her shoulders in a telling gesture. her dupatta always said many things and it had been the last thing he'd seen as she fell. as he placed it where it belonged he seemed to say, he'd protect her honour always. It was a lovely gesture but to me his placing the dupatta back oh her shoulders where it belonged said "i love and respect every bit of who you are"







on this clifftop, for the first time he said, though he did not complete the sentence perhaps because he couldn't, not when she was in this state... but he did realise clearly... main tumhare b-

i can't live without you.

if not for a great plot or even a rational basis for kidnap, for using it to reach this point, many thanks to the writers.

ipk would not be what it is without the acting of barun sobti and sanaya irani... these episodes again said that repeatedly to me. they made ipk breathe... even when everything tried to throw it over the cliff.



That was so rampantly felt and written by you, Indus! Thanks for adding divine new layers to the already exhilarating view of that hilltop..loved it.







hi issk,

thanks, sir... rampantly did i feel it especially that jeep man got me as he seemed to drive right up and around and down every bend and curve and turn within me... this man is going to certainly be the death of an old woman. many things you wrote i sighed over, some i have commented on in pink or underlined or both.

i really have never ever seen such a graceful man, so lithe and fluent in his movements, yet a sense of power coiled, in a surprisingly thin, almost lanky frame... and i often feel he brings together both west and east, past and present in the way he looks, acts, in his body language. just look at him in those jeep shots, your favourite forearms, the almost languid hand on the steering wheel, the angle of head and the eyes... later as you say so well, that mouthful of air as he swerves... really, some terrific moments on a screen... 70mm television.
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I was laughing throughout.
Really so incoherent script! They were actually procrastinating the matter and gyrating in one place. heehee wellsaid, if only they had gyrated a little sexily.
Oh Gosh, the gifts from chandni chawk made me laugh for sure. who send saree and kurta from scotland or moreover the sender is classy ASR! yeah, classy asr who buys embroidered kurtas in the iskaat land, samjhi tum.
You are frustrated about NK and Khushi's talk by the poolside! How cum you forget Shyam and Anjali's wet romance there! 😆 😆 😆 oh the desperate wetness bheegi bheegi pyaar. don't you know there are only few places in that rich Raizada house where they can talk or do whatever.
And you are right about nani. This is the only character cvs didn't mess up with.



hi sohara,

thanks for reading, giggled reading your comment and exasperation.
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Originally posted by indi52

episode 286/7/8




That was so rampantly felt and written by you, Indus! Thanks for adding divine new layers to the already exhilarating view of that hilltop..loved it.






Ailla Issk had to jump in. Thoroughly enjoyed your comments on Indi di's take.

Also from a while back.. when you said you didn't like the term choti si duniya in context of this man.. Faiqa di explained it was Khushi who said that..for this man he wants the whole world with her in it.. profound observations you guys bring in.

Am stunned, and always a tad envious even, that I didn't think of such things..

really enjoy what you bring in your chats here.. not to phorgetiya all aph thej mamiji madness aj bhel..
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hi issk,

thanks, sir... rampantly did i feel it especially that jeep man got me as he seemed to drive right up and around and down every bend and curve and turn within me... this man is going to certainly be the death of an old woman. many things you wrote i sighed over, some i have commented on in pink or underlined or both.

i really have never ever seen such a graceful man, so lithe and fluent in his movements, yet a sense of power coiled, in a surprisingly thin, almost lanky frame... and i often feel he brings together both west and east, past and present in the way he looks, acts, in his body language. just look at him in those jeep shots, your favourite forearms, the almost languid hand on the steering wheel, the angle of head and the eyes... later as you say so well, that mouthful of air as he swerves... really, some terrific moments on a screen... 70mm television.


Truly sir, truly.

Loved reading...took me ages to get to it...and then reading and replying earlier today was a nightmare...hope this one goes through!!

Oh.. i should probably share the closing lines from "a river runs.."...you might like...phetching jhust abheej phrom bhickij...
"Eventually all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs.
I am haunted by waters."

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Thanks for replying, Indus! Pleasure all humaara.





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Originally posted by: aarwen


Ailla Issk had to jump in. Thoroughly enjoyed your comments on Indi di's take.

Also from a while back.. when you said you didn't like the term choti si duniya in context of this man.. Faiqa di explained it was Khushi who said that..for this man he wants the whole world with her in it.. profound observations you guys bring in.

Am stunned, and always a tad envious even, that I didn't think of such things..

really enjoy what you bring in your chats here.. not to phorgetiya all aph thej mamiji madness aj bhel..


Oooimaa, issweet aarweniya...happy you enjoyed!

And chhoti si duniya...i am knowing who ijj saying, ladki, just don't like it said in his context. Humaar isscrew ijj loojwa in matterj such. Mamiji madness isspeaketh in bhayj unpredictiya.

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