Blast from the Past Thread #26 ** Talk to me ** P 132, Ep 299 - Page 72

the thing with ipk is there was always another love story involved. that of mine and perhaps yours with the show.

so when weird things started to happen, i tried my level best to somehow understand and even make sense when it really did not.

that's why i came here. when ott of kkg killed me. hoping something would help me hang on. it was the best thing i could have done. and now after years of struggling with it... my take on ott is... khushi was in a terrible state. she had to react. in a khushi way. where her extremely mixed emotions toward asr had to be expressed... but in the idiom she would or could. she uses sanka in various ways... it is also her defence. when the world is terrible, she uses it to make it bearable.

she does that with her beloved arnav ji who has given her life a bizarre spin and has hurt her unbearably.

up to this point, i now abs agree with her response.

but the execution?

no. something totally weird in it. not khushi.

now this silence of asr.

oh i have so struggled with it.

found another crooner post, trying to agree with priya's reading. saying i see a sense of structure here... even saying the man who put that dupatta on her is defending her his way.

you can read that here if you like

episode 291 from crooner about asr's silence third day running
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/113429526

but honestly. no. i really do not understand those three days. and that is so so so unlike asr.

it is not him. yes, he would keep an eye on his sister to make sure she is okay, and with anybody else, given that "karta" position of his in the house he'd have opted to stay out of it and let things go on. he might have even agreed to do that with khushi before coming in... but when shyam overstepped the mark... no... he would not keep quiet. he'd at least begin to lose it and stop because khushi would insist through that eye talk that went on.

i have a feeling in that trp challenged state the ph decoided to go for "hatke" for the sake of "hatke". just a ploy. no real thought.

there is nothing to post from this episode, so posting gif from one of my favorite Arshi scene.

Episode289

This episode is all about Shyma's flippancy, his insolence and tirade against Khushi and the whole raizada family's ignorance and insensibility. Shyam's misdeed was covert, shrouded with secrecy. And now after doing so much mayhem, fate had brought him in front of everybody and threw him in the middle of the quagmire. And entrapped Khushi in a tangled web what will be arduous for her to unravel.

Mami reveals where Arnav was for last fifteen days, he didn't go to Scotland, he actually got kidnapped. All became awe-inspiring to hear this. Nani almost wilts to hear such shocking news. Anjali is dumbfounded. She comes close to Arnav and cups his face lovingly,

"Is it true?"...she still can't believe what she just heard. Arnav nods his head slightly, but he doesn't want to give her stress, so that he says, he is fine. Khushi says to Anjali that this is true. Akash is also bewildered that his mom knows everything, but he doesn't know.

Mami now directly put the blame on Khushi, because of her she couldn't tell the family, otherwise she tried to tell so many times and Arnav indeed was kidnapped. Arnav tries to interrupt, but he doesn't. Khushi looks at Mami with disbelief, after knowing that the goons threatened to kill Arnav; then how cum she is blaming her! Her eyes flush in a show of defiance.

Mami adds, she was helping Khushi also to find Arnav, but suddenly she came to know such truth what just changed everything. Her words again make everybody startled. Akash asks Arnav who kidnapped him and except Khushi why nobody knows about this matter! Is Akash indirectly accusing Khushi to be involved in his kidnapping!

I just can't believe is this the same Akash who once commented...Khushiji kitni pagal hai, magar achchi hai, bilkul alag.

Arnav defends Khsuhi, that cause the kidnappers didn't want to let anybody know. But Mami is still incredulous, why they kidnapped him. They didn't even ask any ransom. Khushi replies that they didn't want ransom, their intention was something else. Payal also dithers to hear her sister's words,

"what she is saying? And why didn't she tell her anything?"

Khushi says that she couldn't cause, she could put Arnav's life in danger by doing so.

Anjali again caresses Arnav's face. She can't fathom, that he was kidnapped and why they did so. Khushi says, they wanted to kill him. Shyam looks at Khushi in a jolt. And the whole family cowers to hear such horrible thing. Anjali hugs Arnav again.

Anjali got a great chance to touch arnav. Smart woman! mauke paar chauka maar rahi hai.

it's time for Mami to ravage Khushi. She asks her disdainfully,

"Phati saree, if you know so much, then tell who were those people? And what kind of enmity he had with Arnav and why did they want to kill bitua? "

Khushi knows it will be difficult for Anjali to hear the bitter truth, so she comes to Anjali and holds her hand to give her support. She couldn't reveal shyam's truth just because of her weakness. Remember, she came to RM with determination to tell everything about shyam to Raizada family. But Anjali's folly and her blind love for her husband compelled her to keep it secret. Khushi tells her that after knowing the truth she will be shocked and will be in pain, but she also can't tolerate it any longer.

"I will have to tell you the truth."

Arnav is also perturbing, how Anjali will react to know about her husband's knavery.

Mami again berates Khushi, "Phati Saree don't start another Ramayan."

She doesn't want to ponder Khsuhi and turns to Arnav and rather wants to know from him,

Who were they and why did they want to kill you?"

Without much ado Khushi says, "that man is here, in this room, in front of everybody." Trepidation flashes from the hazel of her eyes. She slowly turns to Shyam and asks him, "Isn't it shyam ji?"

Mami is the one who reacts first. Shyam feigns innocence asks her what she is saying!

"No argument can save you today. Today I'll unveil you in front of all. Who are you and how are you?" ..Khushi adds with despise.

Anjali already is in denial. She is not ready to hear anything. So naturally she stops Khushi, "What baseless thing you are saying? How can you say such thing against my husband?"

Khushi is embroiling to see her state. Her pensive face becomes crestfallen. She is in complete resentment while revealing this harsh reality. Anjali convulses to hear her accusation. She holds Arnav and says with pique, how her husband can kidnap her brother! Mami also does not believe Khushi, she charges her, what she is rambling?

Shyam takes advantage of everybody's disbelief. He asks Khushi, "How can you put such filthy accusation on me."

Khushi eyes glints with confidence, she is not accusing him wrongly, but telling the truth. He concocted this entire plot. Shyam again pretends to be innocent, why he will do such thing? Anjali also gets a chance to defend her devil husband. She says Khushi, what frenzy she is saying. She must've misunderstood something.

"I'm telling you the truth."...Khushi holds her hand to comfort her. it's not palatable for Nani also. Khushi tells with determination that he is the one behind Arnav's kidnapping.

Mami asks Khushi, "So many days she helped her to find evidence of the kidnapping. But she never found anything against damadji."

Khushi says in her repartee that, she has all the evidence.

"He is the one who conspired to kidnap Arnavji sitting in this house. He deceived us all. You remember about the tape where we saw some men took Arnav out from the airport!"

Mami assents, but she didn't see damadji anywhere. Then how she is so sure that he is behind this?

I didn't know that mami is such a crass! Mami petty brain didn't think that how Shyam could come in front of Arnav to kidnap him! Didn't she hear that she wanted to divorce Anjali! A man who can think to divorce such a devoted wife, can kidnap her brother too.

Shyam adds, in what basis she can say that!

"Cause you wanted the property, by any cost. That's why you blackmailed me to take Arnavji's sign on those papers, where it was written that Arnavji gave all his property on your name."

Everybody is flabbergasted again.

"It is lie, all nonsense." Shaym dissimulate in hostile accusatory tone and turns towards Anjali first, cause he knows how to dupe his dolt wife! Khushi antagonizes him strongly, neither, she is lying nor she is talking any nonsense.

"You compelled me to take Arnavji's signature on those fake papers."

Shyam knows very well that Khushi doesn't have those papers. So he took the advantage of it, he tells her to bring those papers.

"I don't have those papers, because you stole that, and that day when Arnavji left for London. And then you got him kidnapped."

Shyam accuses Khushi for getting insane and again he tries to use Anjali's weakness. Anjali now tries to make khushi understand not to say such thing whithout proof. "May be you don't know what you are saying."

"I know very well what I'm saying. When we were worried for Arnavji for some days, then he was the one who made Arnavji called us, because we were about to call the police. When I came to know where Arnavji had been kept, he shifted him to some other place. Or moreover the gifts what we got, he sent those, not Arnavji." ..Khushi elucidates everything, like a prowess without cowardice. she knows all about his misdeed, but this time everybody needs to know after he did such cardinal sin of trying to kill Arnav and hers as well.

Shyam wants to know, does she have any proof against him? Khushi replies that, she has the evidence, the blood stain mark what she found in his shoes was Arnav's. Khushi tries to remind Anjali, what she asked about Arnav's blood group. Cause she wanted to make sure the blood stain what she found in shyam's shoes is Arnav's or not. And her doubt was correct; she came to know that it was Arnav's blood was in Shyam's shoes. Shyam pretends he doesn't know anything about that. He disgruntles, as he never met Saale saheb then how his blood came on his shoes!

Khushi has that prove too. Cause, she tested the blood. Shyam anticipates that he is getting caught, so he again tries to seek Anjali's soft corner. He thinks Khushi is crossing all her border. That blood stain matched with sale sahab blood group doesn't prove anything. As a lawyer, he has to go to hospital or police station, so naturally sometimes blood stain comes to his clothes. Or moreover how she stooped so low to check their room furtively...shyam tries to aberate them from reality.

Everybody became taciturn, what to believe and what not. Khushi tries to convince Anjali not to believe him. His work is to prove wrong as right and right as wrong.

Shyam assails Khushi more, " if you are saying the truth, then where are the proofs?"

Khushi retorts, she had all the proofs in her phone, what he snatched from her when she went to rescue Arnav.

Shyam jeers her scathingly, "You don't have proof, but have more accusation and blame."

"So you think, this are all excuses, still I can prove you are behind all this. "

shyam's insinuation acerbates khushi and she takes a pause to retaliate him,

"Arnavji's passport and boarding pass is with you. On the day of Raksha Pooja I found it in your briefcase."

"As you know so many things then tell me what I supposed to do with that passport, would put the seal of Scotland there. " shyam replies.

"Yes you wanted to do so. And I also heard you were talking with that travel agent."

Shyam now wants to delineate Khushi an insane person and he thinks with her imagination, she crossed all her limits.

"Going inside my room without my permission, search my stuffs, investigate behind my back, how could she dare!"

"I dared the way how you dared to become a threat for Arnavji's life." Khushi defends his accusation prowingly, she just can't relinquish so easily.

"I did nothing. For god sake stop this false allegation. Everyone of this room knows very well, you don't have any proof to prove your nonsense."...Shyam tries to manipulate everybody by his shenanigan. All are in impediment and the air envelopes with an impregnable silence. They just didn't recover from one bout of extreme shock of Arnav's kidnapping news, now this drama, obviously they are nonplussed.

But I am flummoxed to see Arnav's nonchalance. Shyam was literally prosecuting his wife and giving her mental trauma and he was completely silent. We know he is a laconic man, but he never tolerated anyone abuse Khushi physically or mentally. He literally beaten up those goons in naninital just to push Khushi. He even was not in relationship with her and now when Khushi is his wife, why he is letting Shyam assail her with afflictive words! I guess not him only his personality also kidnapped. Why Khushi needed proof of her words! When she is saying shyam is reprehensible, then why nobody is believing her?

Anyway, when Shyam was cornering Khushi and made her fell in the dirty cesspool,, NK comes there as her savior. He is so delectable to see her safe at home. He searched her in so many places, but couldn't find her any where. Then his look goes to Arnav. He gets overwhelmed to se him and hugs him.

"Nannav mere bhai, I'm so glad that you are safe." He is so proud of Khushi that finally she brought Arnav home safely. Khushi thanks dm that NK is back at the right time. He knows who kidnapped Arnav. She turns to everybody and tells them that they do not believe her, but they sure will trust nk. She again comes to Anjali and tells her since NK came from abroad, he has been helping her to find Arnav. Khushi tells NK that as he knows everything about the kidnapping and he also knows Shyam is behind it, so he should tell everything to the family, cause they have the right to know the truth. Khushi looks at everybody and Shyam veers his look from her in agitation.

"Yes, khushiji is saying absolute truth, jiju is behind all this. And this man kidnapped nannav, jiju." ..After taking a pause NK spurts out the ultimate truth in a voice laden with contempt.

Shyam accuses him for getting insane along with Khushi.

"You are lying jiju. We are not, because we know well, what is the truth. We found it out."

Shyam again refutes strongly, that khushi is also saying she is telling the truth. NK pleads him not to blame Khushi any more, cause he doesn't know what she tolerated because of him.

"Because of me? So let me hear what she tolerated." The imprudent guy's audacity startled me. "Please, don't compel me to open my mouth. Both me and you know that what khushi is saying is true." NK replies with abhorrence

"NK Bhai, what she cooked in front of you, you believed it. And you accepted it. But it's not necessary that she is right. Just think, what you know, what she told you."

Sly Shyam tries to manipulate NK. He is a good lawyer for sure. I wonder how cum he didn't succeed in his carrier.

"No, not at all jiju. I also witnessed so many things and heard also." NK roils.

"Ok let me hear what you heard?" Shyam instigate NK imprudently. Khushi perturbs again and Anjali looks at Shyam with a question.

"I heard you talking with the travel agent to put stamp on passport. So everybody can think Arnav is in Scotland."

Shyam anticipates, he is getting caught, so he throws more question to NK to confuse him, "So where did you hear this?"

"Right behind you, in your room.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMNif9ZgT4[/YOUTUBE]

credit goes to coldy

Indi, Indu,

You ladies are immersed in some interesting discussion. Not interesting, but actually very intriguing and intrinsic point.

Originally posted by: aarwen

watched 289 today.

20 minutes of everyone else talking except ASR. I liked Khushi finally saying enough is enough everyone needs to know about Shyam. How sweetly she kept holding Anjali's hand, wouldn't we do that even in real life if you were about to do something painful but necessary.

When NK told Khushi he was proud of her, I had tears in my eyes. And for a moment my breath hitched completely when he remained silent. I was convinced some bad sad twist was coming up. But then he sides with Khushi. And was almost scary with Shyam. my respect for NK has just increased.

Now back to what is really confounding me. In other TV shows am used to this show down where perfect bahu has to do all the crying and convincing and husband meekly stands in the background. but this is IPK. and this is ASR. So why did he not talk at all in the whole episode?

Someone please help me understand.

durga,

the thing was, on first watch, we all thought there was more to many things, the silence, the placing of the characters, the almost archetypal or mythological parallels one thought one saw.

it was a "bhram" only alas. anjali he he was right.

this was just piecemeal writing... maybe barun was not yet back full time, so they said, okay, let's not have him speak.

the look into my eyes line was worked out way before anything else i am sure... it's the kind of thing a writer loves to write.

right now, for one of my stories, i am dying to write something. but you know the real craft is in getting to that point effortlessly, naturally, by telling what comes before very well.

here that did not happen.

no matter what anyone says... i can never ever believe asr would keep quiet while shyam said filthy things about kkg. unless, you show me asr and khushi agreeing to do so. even then, there will be reaction on his face, his clenched fists, his little flaring of nostrils.

same way no one can make me believe that khushi ate up asr's dinner one night while waiting for him... again, to come to a point where they can show intimacy on a night when he is ill... they wrote the end point and did not work out a smooth journey to it.

a lack of craft this was, my feeling...

and here on we will see so much of it, this will become the norm.

Originally posted by: sohara

You ladies are immersed in some interesting discussion. Not interesting, but actually very intriguing and intrinsic point.

No one can justify ASR's nonchalance. This was not ASR at all. He just can't hear so much against Khushi from Shyam's mouth, where he already knew what shyam was. few days later when a guy passed a filthy remark to Khushi, he wanted to beat him and in front of his family when Shyam was ravaging Khushi, staining her character, ASR couldn't be silent. It happened because, Barun was not available for shoot, that's why the cvs just cut and pasted his couple of expressions in between the scenes. You can see most of the time ASR's BD was used. i think CVs should wait for few more days for Shyam's denouement at least for Barun's return.

i abs agree with you.

that was not asr.

this was ridiculous.

i tried very hard to live with it the first time i saw, thinking this is some heavy duty clever ipk thing.

but no.

if you notice up there, i just wrote to durga just that... barun was not available most likely.

but to to write it this way was not right. they indeed should have waited.

actually after this the place that really got me hooked again was that marvellous fight after asr was terrible to khushi... now that... that raving at khushi and saying why did you even come into my life... that i can well imagine asr doing... and then falling apart. caught between his love for his sister and the one he loves more than his life... yes, he can do that. and we always end up hurting the one we love more... at least asr does, so do i he he.

something happened at the door to shantivan. i am sure it was written differently initially... perhaps they had asr and khushi talking about how to go about this... then everything was changed.

misguidedly this is what i wrote in crooner 95... trp did rise after these episodes.

now i am thinking that could have simply been because people knew barun was back.


this is from crooner 96 sigh.

on that 3.4 trp.

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