Clearing some misconceptions about redemption

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Rockerchic

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Posted: 13 years ago

#101

Originally posted by: JohnySolomonRaj

Then what about when he called her a home Wrecker. Can i know what u saw there friend

Buddy you're MUing me.

I never said what ASR did was right.

My response was to redemption and "I'm sorry". Words aren't always required. I see "I'm sorry" in his actions.

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..BhUvaNa

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Posted: 13 years ago

#102

yes, when a child does mistakes or a very big mistake , a mother should corect him and make him realise and apologise. but she wont demand about the kind and amount of apology.and in case if child dont realise also, her love is not going to stop for him for his mistakes. she still forgives him (like khushi).she dont hate him ,bash him,critisice his each and every move (i know u dont do that)and neither she tries to taunts him as much as possible sarcastically.and if the world tries to do all this to him though for his mistakes she will be first we will find in his defence.This doesnt mean that i dont need him to realise his mistakes and apologise, he should and he will but i dont hate him if he wont do.. and yes we can love him more if he do.

Edited by bhuva123 - 13 years ago

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blue.kindle

@blue.kindle

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Posted: 13 years ago

#103

DKS, that exactly is the problem some of us have here. This romanticism attached to the violence. The glorification of the unacceptable. We have some very impressive minds here and this is definitely sending out the wrong signals. ASR has never shied away from apologizing before. Why not now? It didn't make him a wimp then. It didn't make him look of character. Now what has changed?

Edited by bong.girl - 13 years ago

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rima

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Posted: 13 years ago

#104

Originally posted by: bong.girl

Might is always right. For example, in the forum itself, if you try to sail against the tide, you end up being labelled as a "basher" and they would even go as far as getting your thread closed. Why? Because you dared to speak against the might of the majority.

I quoted few lines from Elizabeth Browning's sonnet, "How Do i Love Thee?" My favourite is "Porphyria's Lover".

The madness, the obsession... leaves me gasping every time I read it.

ok that is why i do not remember.

i literally worship robert browning's poems

john keats and coleridge and wordsworth are the other favs

and speaking against the majority is something i always do. it is my cholbena spirit. i mean the spirit of rebellion which i imbibed from kolkata where i grew up

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Rayka

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Posted: 13 years ago

#105

Originally posted by: Didikisaut

Hey thanx for the compliment.

Yes I keep myself updated with the facts and figures, I know what women go through. It can be so scary at times to even hear what they have gone through and this is the sole reason I want Arnav to say at least a few meaningful and emotional words to seek forgiveness.

I am mad at the PH as they are sending the wrong message that one can be tortured in the name of love.

In india the women feel that husband is God, hence whatever he does is right. It is one of the major reasons why there are very few complaints relating to domestic abuse.

Why i get the same feeling when seeing the show?

Yes, somewhere SP and PH forgot Nayi Soch with respect to this series. We all know the difficult facts about how many women actually accept such behaviour and many educated women do so. The thing is the more women watch such things on tele, it gets reinforced to them that it is an accepted behaviour and it shows how well cultured the woman is accepting all the abuse whether verbal or physical. So, imagine if it changes with class episodes where it is shown how even a middle class woman can change such a thought. It is unacceptable and cannot be hidden because the man suddenly feels oh I love this girl and can't stay without her and so I should show how I can protect her and fight for her when he has simply not accepted the fact that he needs to apologise for all the cruelty he has shown over the past one year. Like you, when I watched this series I had the same feeling.

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Johny S Raj

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Posted: 13 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

Buddy you're MUing me.

I never said what ASR did was right.

My response was to redemption and "I'm sorry". Words aren't always required. I see "I'm sorry" in his actions.

Did he feel sorry or ask sorry or even thing about that dreadful day in which he called her a home wrecker 😡

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mayuri099

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Posted: 13 years ago

#107

Originally posted by: Rockerchic
As it's often said Chocolate says "I'm sorry" so much better than words.

I see I'm sorry- When he stands up for her.
I see I'm sorry When he holds her hand when he sleeps.
I see I'm sorry- When he goes out of the way from his hi-fi life and gets her what she likes
I see I'm sorry- When he told her she can do what she wants
I see I'm sorry- When says he wants to see her smile.
I see I'm sorry- When he shares his dark past with no one except her.

It's perspective. We can agree to disagree. 😊

But, aren't you supposed to do all that when you love someone? And, sometimes you do need to say 'sorry' because it matters. For me, the bigger problem is I haven't even seen yet the intense realization that he has done anything wrong. Now, both of them talk about their wedding as if it was a most normal one with the only problem being pheras not taken!

The message they are sending out there is so wrong!

Edited by mayuri099 - 13 years ago

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Rockerchic

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Posted: 13 years ago

#108

Originally posted by: JohnySolomonRaj

Did he feel sorry or ask sorry or even thing about that dreadful day in which he called her a home wrecker 😡

When he said "So what" and " She's my wife so she can do whatever she wants. When he said "There's no need to say sorry, Khushi". When he said "Tumhara koi galti nahi."

I repeat it perspective. You see it your way. I see it mine.

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rima

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Posted: 13 years ago

#109

Originally posted by: HSFA
What a post.👏 I agree to each and every word said and explained in this post. Redemption is nesseary for healing Khushi's wounds. I also don't want ASR to be another Heathcliff. I hope this track is shown soon.

hey thanks. we all know what happened to heathcliff. so that's why asr should not be one

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Rockerchic

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Posted: 13 years ago

#110

Originally posted by: mayuri099

But, aren't you supposed to do all that when you love someone? And, sometimes you do need to say 'sorry' because it matters. For me, the bigger problem is I haven't even seen yet the intense realization that he has done anything wrong. Now, both of them talk about their wedding as if it was a most normal one with the only problem being pheras not taken!

@BOLD-Crux of the problem. I disagree.

@RED- That's bad screenplay and disjoint way of story telling.

Edited by Rockerchic - 13 years ago