Clearing some misconceptions about redemption - Page 12

Originally posted by: Rayka

Yes, somewhere SP and PH forgot Nayi Soch with respect to this series. We all know the difficult facts about how many women actually accept such behaviour and many educated women do so. The thing is the more women watch such things on tele, it gets reinforced to them that it is an accepted behaviour and it shows how well cultured the woman is accepting all the abuse whether verbal or physical. So, imagine if it changes with class episodes where it is shown how even a middle class woman can change such a thought. It is unacceptable and cannot be hidden because the man suddenly feels oh I love this girl and can't stay without her and so I should show how I can protect her and fight for her when he has simply not accepted the fact that he needs to apologise for all the cruelty he has shown over the past one year. Like you, when I watched this series I had the same feeling.

Originally posted by: arhi-sarun-fan

Loved your post as always Rima. I just want to say strike while the iron is hot. Redemption won't have any impact on viewers if it is shown too late just like I Love You ( it didn't had any for me as he had hurt and insulted her enough by then)

Originally posted by: Drwho

Rima, I read your other post late last night, but was too sleepy to comment.

Excellent points raised in both posts.

Quoting, Swathi's reply there,

At the risk of sounding controversial I am going to declare ASR can never ever be a Devdas. Devdas was an iconic literary character superbly interpreted by Dilip Kumar and anything or anybody else would be a pale imitation.

More than anyone else being a pale imitation of Dilip Kumar, we cannot expect such deeply resonant and powerful, complex, human characters that Sharat Chandra created, from writers like the CVs of IPK.

They were doing a reasonable job until Feb/March, when suddenly everything went haywire! They began a steady and systematic decimation of Khushi's character. This over emphasis on bro sis bond is killing ASR. I think their fear is if ASR aplogises to Khushi, the sis doesn't have any leverage to exert her influence and that is the reason they are dragging this forever.

Devdas courted and embraced destruction with both hands for his momentary weakness and failure in standing up for Paro. It is not necessary for ASR to go down that route. It is not necessary for ASR to destroy himself and Khushi for the sake of the blasted sister!

They used and abused SI for months until their show became a success and now DB is trying to piggy back and they are attempting to palm her off on us.

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

When he said "So what" and " She's my wife so she can do whatever she wants. When he said "There's no need to say sorry, Khushi". When he said "Tumhara koi galti nahi."

I repeat it perspective. You see it your way. I see it mine.

Originally posted by: ASRsweetKKG

love u 4 this post dear

well said everything dear

actually those who r waiting 4 redemption wont say all these..others r MUed meaning of redemption as u said..the thing is tat they cant see ASR in tears...even though it is heart breaking 4 me too...i think which i cant understand is tat these people do not have problem 4 khushi's tear...r they happy with her pAin??? if no then surely they'll say redemption is needed...i am mad of BS/ASR...but at the same time i wont forget 2 see them in the story level...

those r forgetting all the past episodes & the story of it & those who r simply want ASR 2 b smile wont want redemption...but bot me...i think not u too..

Originally posted by: bong.girl

Are you from Kol? Kool! Me too! I love poetry. I love Blake.

Originally posted by: mayuri099

When he said "tumhare koi galati nehi thi" , I actually wanted to laugh! How does that sentence even make sense?! Of course, it wasn't her fault that he MU her and forcefully married her with so much hate for his beloved di. How exactly is it her fault?

Originally posted by: ClumsyLilGirl

Excellent post! xD
But before the redemption, if the cvs decided to surprisingly show one, there should be an apology!
And his fault is not a small one, the list is pretty big!
He insulted her, insulted her dead parents- and that really hurts! :/

And before people begin to argue upon asr being unqiue and complex for all this:
Remember, he did apologize to her once!
That was ASR saying a 'sorry'
But he isn't asr to her now, he's arnav, which gives him all the more reason to say a 'simple sorry'.

And yes, remorse and redemption are not the same thing.
Whenever i do see a very rare scene of Arnav repenting, even the slightest, i do feel happy!

But that isn't enough, is it?
Or am i being a bit too hopeful?