In defence of Arnav *edited on 06/07

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Paru

@paru_rox

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Posted: 13 years ago

#101

The thing is as irritating as Arnav's silence right now is, effectively it serves two purposes -- It gives Arnav the chance to observe Shyam's lies & counter lies so that he can catch on to the slightest point which he can use to prove Khushi's accusations against Shyam.
Secondly this is the best way CV's can have all the secrets spilled out in front of Arnav (& the entire family) . It would seem a bit strange to show Khushi giving clarifications to Arnav on every point she needs to fess up to, when in the last few episodes their feelings are shown to have moved to another level.

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Hiruni

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Posted: 13 years ago

#102

Originally posted by: momma1128
I agree with everything you wrote. It certainly seems like a mutually understood silence between arhi as Kh has not once asked ASR to believe her which was her singular focus before the kidnapping. She knows that he does not need convincing, it is the rest and for them to stand behind him when the final verdict is given by him in his house, he needs everything out.

He is watching reactions, he is registering shyam reactions and lies one after another - and while he knows nothing about the will, kidnap or engagement - he knows that shyam did openly admit to loving kh while he was on that terrace and no one was around, that there is reason to switch the will because he had just altered it prior to being kidnapped excluding shyam and that kh has already told him about the engagement. He is waiting for Shyam to hang himself with his own words and then hopefully he will say why he thinks his jiju is a scumbag. It will have to come out that he knew about his wandering eye from the terrace but I guess ASR has to make sure that it all adds up before he thoroughly breaks his sister's flimsy mental stability.

But, while I understand all of this, this silence is getting ridiculously awkward because it is spanning over 2 days now and they are using the same damn stale close up shots that don't even match up to the direction the BD is facing in the scenes and I guess that's why I feel the whole confrontation is totally wonky. This PH is just horrible at planning and editing. Just waiting for thappad.

Nice post.

Agreed. He's watching everything (and looks to me with a clear head) just as any rational person with an ounce of brain would do. He's bidding his time untill shyam let slip and the can of worms would be open.

and about editing and direction, it's extremely sloppy as usual. Enough complaints have been made but to no avail. I dnt know if its the lack of organization skills, the relative inexperience of the production house or the lack of enthusiasm to provide a good episode. Over all no creativity seen at all. Just 3 or 4 shooting directions editted in an even more sloppy manner.

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ChaiBiskoot

@ChaiBiskoot

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Posted: 13 years ago

#103

u hit the nail ! he is the lion.. and it doesn't roar all the time .. The attack will be at the right moment .. that is wen his prey-SHYAM .. is clearly visible to him..

I didn't like the way editing was done.. payal suddenly goes silent after two words of defence..

nevertheless.. his character isn't buthchered .. infact given more thought ..

Great post 👏

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Hiruni

@CDlove

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Posted: 13 years ago

#104

Originally posted by: VasantiLad
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3074873/script-for-the-4-5th-july-ipkknd
I posted the above yesterday - what I think looking at it from afar - is that he is not available but they want to keep the story in synch - Arnav in reality would have re-acted by now without any question as that is his character - you cannot change that- look back at when he has been provoked & how he has behaved especially when his sister is under threat.

What everyone has to realise is that this is not something that is orchestrated - simply put - he is not available so you only see him in shots on his own- pre recorded ( not seen today's yet) & we have to tolerate that because what we have to look forward to is his return for good.

We therefore were lucky to get that epi 2 days ago when we had PURE REAL ARSHI moments

I dont agree. Arnav in reality would not have reacted. His character assisnation started with how he started reacting to small things. The forced marriage and how he took the decission was character assasination. If you watch previous episdes, we see arnav as a very closed, internal person who hardly shows any emotions at all.

He will lash out in his cool calm way but then he'll just walk off as if nothing happened. on very very extreme emotional states, he looses control. But right now, I think its his bussinesman avatar that on place. So what he's been showen as is is well justified.

But those shots of his reactions definitely needs prepping. That I agree with you 100%

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Hiruni

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Posted: 13 years ago

#105

Originally posted by: paru_rox
The thing is as irritating as Arnav's silence right now is, effectively it serves two purposes -- It gives Arnav the chance to observe Shyam's lies & counter lies so that he can catch on to the slightest point which he can use to prove Khushi's accusations against Shyam.
Secondly this is the best way CV's can have all the secrets spilled out in front of Arnav (& the entire family) . It would seem a bit strange to show Khushi giving clarifications to Arnav on every point she needs to fess up to, when in the last few episodes their feelings are shown to have moved to another level.

That is one very important point! You are so right! this is the best way to bring out everything to the front..👏

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Hiruni

@CDlove

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Posted: 13 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: Purple_Lady
u hit the nail ! he is the lion.. and it doesn't roar all the time .. The attack will be at the right moment .. that is wen his prey-SHYAM .. is clearly visible to him..

I didn't like the way editing was done.. payal suddenly goes silent after two words of defence..

nevertheless.. his character isn't buthchered .. infact given more thought ..

Great post 👏

The editing is poor as usual. Direction lacks everything it used to be. its hastily shot and lacks depth. But oh well, as you saud, the characters were true to themselves so Im not going to complain too much

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MsDramaQueen

@MsDramaQueen

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Posted: 13 years ago

#107

You just totally changed my perspective dude.. I was ranting out on myself on why the hell he hasn't spoken a word but when you stated that he's giving Khushi a chance to speak because he really didn't let her before.. was amazing..

Well said :)

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ArHiluv

@ArHiluv

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Posted: 13 years ago

#108

Originally posted by: Purple_Lady
u hit the nail ! he is the lion.. and it doesn't roar all the time .. The attack will be at the right moment .. that is wen his prey-SHYAM .. is clearly visible to him..

I didn't like the way editing was done.. payal suddenly goes silent after two words of defence..

nevertheless.. his character isn't buthchered .. infact given more thought ..

Great post 👏

yeah he is just enjoying the moment...just waithe does'nt hav any proof against shyam ...this is just a silence before storm😈

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.Euphoria.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#109

Hiru, I'm just annoyed because having no lines or dialogues means that you really need to step up on the expression department. The editing was silly, and it just looked like Arnav was bored by the entire proceedings.

I also feel he should've piped up towards the end when he Shyam began talking about how he would only divorce Anjali to shut Khushi up. Shyam had told Arnav that he loves Khushi and only Anjali was in his way of getting her, so why didn't the penny drop then for Arnav that Shyam is bullshitting?

Today was a memorable day..a day when everyone found out by Shyam, and Arnav wasn't even engaging in conversation...The entire thing was disappointing for me. My hopes are now pinned on this bitch slap :p

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Hiruni

@CDlove

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Posted: 13 years ago

#110

Originally posted by: arnavluvkhushi
You just totally changed my perspective dude.. I was ranting out on myself on why the hell he hasn't spoken a word but when you stated that he's giving Khushi a chance to speak because he really didn't let her before.. was amazing..

Well said :)

Im so glad I could halp you see things in a different light. As it says, it all depends on how you look at things 😃