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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very well written posts satya,bollywoodcrazed,Anna,shai,momma.
Just waiting for satya to complete and doods to write her analysis.

By the way good song selection satya for nothing can describe these two better thanthose lines.
Coming to Nani and Asr equation,the two are made of the same mould.Nani puts her fingers on ASR's weakness.like satya told us yesterday That asr has learned a bag of tricks frm her.but has Nani really sensed the magnitude of problem between Khushi and Arnav? What do you feel my mates?

Secondly I agree withsatya on the score that the acting and the direction were patchy at places.but for me the impact of the words in the sequence mitigated this lapse.I had tears in my eyes by the time the episode ended.

Khushi after listening to ASR's words starts to see a ray of hope about the sad state of her marriage but that hope dies an early death after Arnav's harsh word that he did it only for his family.so Khushi's frustration is at an all time high.shehas been driven to the edge .all this is indicative of some thing big going to happen. Do u all remember the guest house incident where Khushi is caught inside and what happened after that ? SHE BLASTED him for that in his house.so now khushi's emotions are on the boil again ...

I always wanted to ask this question to the cv's.why haven't they shown Khushi reading the letter that Arnav's mother has written for her DIL?are they waiting for the appropriate moment or isit that they have forgotten about it??????

@Anna-"don't judge the book by the appearance of the cover".I guess the cvs have some appropriate explanation to give us on the usage of the word " dhokebaaz" by Khushi.personally I feel
People driven to the edge utter all kinds of tosh.I know that your images about khushi has taken a beating but looking at it from a different perspective,I feel that certain inconsistencies can be forgiven if it helps in the interesting progressionof the story


Edited by Lizzy2012 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi I missed a lot of the thread yesterday which is not unusual😆.. but at the end of it I gathered doodleberry is back. So Db welcome back😃.
I see that you put a lot of effort in your post connecting dots from the past with the present which is wonderful, so thank you.😊
Good episode they are building up to the big movement...I guess the ME threw them off track...from what I understand they had the big track for the mahaepidsode...and then it got delayed cancelled and now maybe will air at the end of this month.. so that threw them off...and they had to scramble with fillers and prolong the track till the ME coz ME is big and they need a big twist.
The way IPKKND is...they twist without giving away the story could be either khushi finds out why he married her or arnav finds out khushi is innocent...unfortunately...the moving of ME became the issue...anyhow enough justification for all that has happened.
Now the track needs to inch forward with atleast one of them actually realizing that all is not how it seems...
Arnav is brains of IPKKND and Khushi the heart...they need a role reversal...khushi needs to think and arnav needs to feel...and then we can have them work together against a common enemy
Heer ranjha was good setup...lets hope her fustration and his adamance plays the part to get some truth out!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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great analysis!!!
but the part that really stood out to me was when you mentioned that shyam looked bored!!!😆
completely agree with you on that one!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Brilliant post as usual...seems you were very sleepy as its quite short today...😊

Anyways right after I watched the episode some thoughts poured in my head so I saved them to share on redux...😃

Her remark "hum marne wale hain" hit Arnav like a dagger in the heart..he realized in that instant what it would be like to lose her and also that Khushi thinks that he hates her so much that she feels he would be happy in her death...little does she know about his true love for her...his love re-surfaced he was fully in Arnav mode and for him the lines between the stage-play and reality started blurring...In his Arnav mode he started his dialogues straight from his heart pouring his emotions flawlessly but when during his initial dialogues Khushi sheds a tear he lets of go of everything and all the lines blur ...he can no more differentiate between heer lying dead or Khushi...his intensity and pain are pouring out of him..realizing his anguish and getting confused Khushi shows some lid movement and parting of lips that brings him out of his sad reverie... and he completes his dialogues albeit spoken from heart but with enough smartness ( he almost apologizes for all his bads against her)and awareness of reality that he doesn't complete the sentence..

Now sathu you mentioned in your post yesterday that he gave the earring as his heart and she accepted it openly... today again she took his heart from him herself and lovingly asking for it and he again handed it over but later when she asked for the truth of his words she got a bitter rebuke as usual...when she commented on his leaving after every confrontation he did not disappoint and immediately obliged and left (though he will come back as shown in precap) ...now this made her angry and she threw that earring away in anger ...indicating that she throws away his love...

This for me is marking the start of the track where Khushi has made an impression of him in her head and feels that
Arnav is like that...he is rude arrogant and mean...will act for his family but gives her no importance... as this is the third time she has openly sought out response from him for her/his feelings and has been crushed by him (diwali, wedding and today) so she will seal her heart again like she did after diwali but this time with anger as she has been through a lot..

Now if the bolegaindia article is true then Khushi is agitated enough that she in anger will bare her heart and say outright
that she has made a mistake of loving him...she will blurt it out only to say that she will rectify her mistake.. maybe not say it but she will mean that...with that she will walk away...and his mental wheels will finally start turning...so probably this is where redemption starts...something like when Darcy went to propose Lizzie and was humiliated thoroughly by her...he quitely walked away but was still in love with her and helped her every which way...you know the rest...

But I feel that the story is now entering a mode where the role reversal is about to take place...where he will start realizing his mistakes and she will be cool and aloof with him...she will join hands with Arnav to expose shyam...keep his family happy and maintain the facade of happy marriage ...but behind closed doors Arnav se nakon chane chabwaye gi...(its an urdu proverb...exact translation to make one chew grams via their nose...meaning to make their life hell) ...but khushi being khushi and SP heroine will not last in ruthless mode for long and will forgive ODB...plus the redemption track will have started so ASR will not be able to forgive himself and walk away and she will bring him back as doods and you always put it...

OR

All above that I have written scrap it and after the earring throwing part...she has well realized that Arnav has feelings for her but there is something that stops him from revealing and she will start connecting the dots and unveil the truth and start on her mission of conquering Arnav's trust and love (which she already has)...

I normally am not an analyzer and can be wrong so please feel free to correct me...😳


Doods waiting for your update...thank you for not leaving us 😃

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Glad to see the red and green font back in action...😃
Beautiful doods aptly described how one little play covered their entire journey...also completely agree about everything else you have written rgdg. the pace and looming IPL...I am in awe with the way you pick and decipher things...charan kahan hain aapke...
Now I can sleep peacefully...I was waiting for you to update...its 3:35 here in the morning but wanted to read your analysis too before sleeping ...ab I will be late in joining sathu in the morning..phir 50+ pgs honge...😛

By the way hope you are not angry on my pointing out a triangle the other day...I completely acknowledge they are your babies and only pointed it out to you and that too only in the redux thread...waise bhi if you would have read my yesterdays post you would have realized I gave the baby for adoption and gifted it back to you...😳
Edited by Arhimaniac - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Doodle senT u a pm, Thank goodness yr BACK🥳, has the plagARISM BEEN TACKLED???

I'm as 🥱 as Shyam was during this entire epi... n the dragging track...is this hw its gona b till ME, which is only a filler like prev ones...

Did nani's sanskar lecture work here... When she couldn't stop LA liv in???

Ermm what hpnd to bottom half of Khushi lengha?? she was wearing a ful length one yday wen recapping HR story with nani...

YES we know Arnav is in love🥱

Audience laughing n mkin fun of heer
Edited by Sofna - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
Hippee I was able to read it today itself...Loved it Tanthya...⭐️
before my sleeping devi takes me with her ...i woluld like to say a big thank you... to you & all the girlies in IP REDUX for their wonderful analysis...awesome work...

@ last Arnav ji has confessed his LOVE withought knowing he did it...wow!!!!

Waiting for Doods,,,,
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Sathya and great pick on the song, yet another one that suits Arnav and Khushi to a T
I liked this episode, well once you fast forwarded the first five minutes.
Nani and Anjali definately know how to get their way, while one resorts to manipulation the other resorts to emotional blackmail. Nani knows Arnav has a weak spot for Khushi and won't be able to take seeing her be humiliated in front of everyone and she used that to her advantage.
The audience behavior doesn't surprise me, after the episode where Khushi and Payal were introduced as the Raizadas bahus it gave me a clear picture who Nani and Mami associate with.
So finally Arnav came to Khushi's rescue, liked his honesty here from Nani talking him into this to admitting not knowing what to do. It was true to his character especially since moments ago he was talking about how stupid it was. He just followed Khushi's lead and a story which was originally about Heer and Ranjha turned into Khushi and Arnav. Loved when Arnav said without Khushi he doesn't exist, mentioning he never meant to hurt her it reminded me so much of what he told Lavanya believing she was Khushi. Finally the words reached the right person, I could see how much Khushi was affected by this she was very moved.
Liked how they held hands afterwards but like expected Arnav walked away in an effort to dodge Khushi's questions. Loved her persistence and telling Arnav that like him she too gets upset when he walks away when she is not finished talking.
I loved the earring scene especially now that I've read your take Sathya. Very well said!!
As for the precap, I think too much is being read into it before it happens. One thing I've learned about this show is not to judge until you see an epi as things end up being different from what we assume, like last week when I thought Friday's ending was a disaster and actually turned into something positive on Monday.
Edited by bollywoodcrazed - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--

Sathya...🤗 Beautiful as always! Today I cannot do an analysis of the episode atleast I think I cannot because I hardly could see anything today since I was crying buckets and rivers the whole episode ! 😭 Yess! I am an idiotic emotional fool -- I just could not help myself today! Coming to your analysis - Brilliant as usual! 👏 I agree with you Shyam's reaction were a bit let down. I do not know why but I am not able to see the proper Arnav Shyam and Khushi equation and that is what I expected this track to focus on! However I am very much disappointed with Aabhas here - his reactions were so out of the place and once I saw him smiling also! 😕 Also love your song selection - one of my favorite songs and I always play it on my way to work - love it so much and so apt to the situation today! 😃


Like I said - I am in no position to write anything because I hardly concentrated on anything - however I will - that is what I do - say I would not write and then end up writing an essay! 😆😆 So coming to my analysis, quick points :

- Starting of the episode - Arnav on a crossroad - he has two choices that Nani gives him when he decides to not participate - one to leave the premises and go away and second to save his wife from being humiliated on stage. And what does he chose!? Standing by his wife when she most needs him. That is why I never brought in the whole sit-ups issue in my post when it had happened. I personally belief that a girl's self respect is in her own hands - Arnav did not force Khushi that day - she did of her will - if she had refused - would the mighty Arnav Singh Raizada let his wife go to jail with the traffic policeman!? No! He would have gotten frustrated - helped her out then and there and her self respect would be intact. And that is what we saw today again - when it comes to choosing - he will always stand by Khushi in times of trouble! He might not show it but he will always be there like a shadow lurking around always ready to help - even if it frustrates him to no extent.

in orange totally agreed anna

- Coming to the crowd at the community - Really!? Have the creatives forgotten that the Raizada's are the top most business families or something!? This is the crowd they hang out with and parties they participate in!? I was a bit disappointed here to the reaction that I felt was way over the top from the crowd.

so do i . i was too disappointed 4rm that scene . business tycoon arnav singh raizada n crowd making his jokes n laugh at him this show seems as they r in cheap concert.

- Coming to the scene when Khushi decides and prays to Devi Maiyya to help her out and she tries again - a failed attempt - and who does Devi Maiyya send - her husband - Arnav Singh Raizada. What really I liked in this scene was the comfort level they both had with each other. Arnav Singh Raizada aka ASR who never asks for help - especially from Khushi - asks her to help him for he does not know what to do - no pretense, no shame - he asks her and she asks him to follow her - as simple as that! Love your analysis here again Sathya! 👏

-- Khushi starts with her dialogues and I must say I did not like them. I wish they had given her a bit better dialogues for Heer - it sounded strange to my ears! 😆 But Arnav sure looked enthralled - he was drinking in every word she said. His eyes never leaving her. Then comes the humor in one of the most significant scenes :

"Khushi bata dena kab aana hai..." Khushi looks at him and smiles

"bas thode hi der mein"

"aur phir" Arnav asks confused

"Aur phir aapki zindagi ki sabse achi aur Ranjhe ki zindagi ki sabse buri ghadi aaegi"

Arnav shocked. " Matlab"

" Hum marjayenge"

This was one scene which showed that how affected Arnav is with the talk of her dying! He was shocked and tears came in his eyes as she saw Khushi move forward and continued her act.

this is my fav scene of today epi loved it

-- The poison scene - Khushi eats the sweet of poison and falls down. We see everyone in shock and that is when Arnav needs to come in to play his role. He comes in initially as Ranjha calling out to Heer - here he is acting - and by that I mean role playing Ranjha. But when he reaches close to her and takes her in his laps that is when Arnav surfaces out of him and after that the emotional fool I am - I start crying! 😭

he was nt following here Heer- Ranjha story he was following his heart n Arnav Khushi story

"Heer... Heer...utho Heer...Heer ek baar aankhein khol ke mujhe dekho... tumhare bina main jee nahi sakta...tumhare bina ranjha kuch nahi hai Heer (Khushi's tears falls from her eyes and Arnav wipes them) .. Heer main tumhe chod ke chala gaya tha.. apne man ko behla raha tha ki mujhe koi frak nahi padta... par tum toh jaanti ho... main tumhare bina jee nahi sakta...jab jo kiya, jab jo kaha, sab bhool jao... aaj kisi aur cheez ka koi matlab nahi.. kisi jhooth ka...kisi sach ka.. bas ek cheez ka matlab hai... agar tum nahi...toh main nahi...tumne hi kaha tha na Heer ki heer ke bina Ranjha ka koi wajood nahi...(he says that from the last episode when he heard Khushi talk about Heer and Ranjha love story) ... agar Heer hi zinda nahi hai toh ranjhe ki zindagi ka koi matlab nahi...(Khushi is confused her - her eyebrows twitch) yahan na sahin... shayad kahin aur ek duniya hogi jahan tum aur main kabhi alag nahi honge..."

And by now I am howling! 😭 - And then he eats the sweet and the last line...

"Jab jo bura kaha - uska koi matlab nahi hai - jab jo bura kia - uska koi matlab nahi hai -- Iss pyaar mein sahi aur galat ka koi matlab nahin hain..ki main hameshe hamesha tumse..."

The last line - specifically spoken or should I say whispered into Khushi's ears - and it was Arnav alone in it. It was his sorry to her - it was his confession of love to her - it was his confession when he said "Iss pyaar" -- And that is why from all of his dialogues Khushi picked up only this line! I loved how they got up when the act finished. The way Khushi opened her eyes first and then Arnav and they got up their hands held together. That was beautiful

u too noted this i also noted " ISS PYAAR "...

-- Next comes Khushi questioning Arnav Again! Did I expect Arnav to reply straight to her - ofcourse not! I cannot forget he is Arnav Singh Raizada who if he lets out his emotions - runs away from them asap - so I am not disappointed with Arnav here - but I am glad that Khushi tried. Sathya loved how you have explained the earring scene and the mangtika connection here. 👏 Also the whole Heer Ranjha act was for the world to see - and I am sure Anjali and Nani could very well establish the connection Arnav and Khushi have - and so does Akash and Mamaji. Shyam was a disappointment so no comments on him.

i liked here kkg throwing jhumka nw she is in anger n what this anger will bring out 4rm her let see

I guess this was it! Will be waiting for Doodhs and Pam's analysis! 😃

Love:)

P.S : Note to the creatives : Okay even though I loved the whole confession to bits - cried, howled everything - I really am done seeing Arnav confess indirectly everytime and his realization of feelings! No doubt I love it - but why is he the only one who keeps realizing he is in love and confessing it. One was during the bhaang scene - Khushi was confused there - Arnav was sure - and one again today - Arnav again confessed his love (indirectly but he did) -- can we please have a Khushi realization scene now!? We need to move over the dhak dhak. What is the point if she comes to know that Arnav loves her but she has not even been shown to realize the meaning of her feelings!? 😕

agreed

P.P.S : Okay the precap nearly spoiled the episode for me. I get it Khushi has some strong reason to not take the award - must be mami and payal - yet if that dhokebaaz dialogues was directed at Arnav alone tomorrow - I am gonna be pissed! She can do it in the four corners of her room - slap him even if she wants to but I do not think her proclaiming her husband as a dhokebaaz will go well with me and her character. My fingers are crossed - I hope the scene plays out very very differently! I know something big might happen and it might just be a setup also but I really hope I am proven wrong and Khushi does not do what I think she is doing.

same here i too didnt like this dialogue but hoping its nt will show like in precap. it should be show in better way.😊


See ya guys at REDUX tomorrow! Gnite! :)))





very nice analysis Anna..
👏

i m in green 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lovely post as usual. Thanks
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have updated the matter but color changing and proof reading I am doing now...but you all can read...😃

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