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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Zzabi

For those who say it is just a show - shows are not meant to portray domestic abuse, racism, abuse violence etc and be able to pass it off as 'just a show'. The media has a responsibility it is meant to uphold. And it is one thing to show domestic violence or racism as part of a show where it is clearly defined as racism / violence and that it is wrong but here this type of abuse is being passed off as somehow a part of romance and love and passion. THAT is where it goes wrong. You cannot commit abuse and then say 'oh we need it so their love later is so much more passionate'. That is disgusting to euate love and passion with abuse needed to up the passion factor. But it is obvious from a lot of the responses on the forum that people seem to think it is ok to have abuse if it means passionate love later on.

So many people who watch this show will be influenced by it especially those women who are abused thinking that passion afterwards somehow makes abuse ok. How many times would you see women who are abused going back to their abusers because 'oh he really loves me and is very sorry' and tomorrow they end up dead. I'm not saying Arnav's character is totally to that level yet but this line of behaviour they are starting to show in Arnav needs to be nipped in the bud from now on.

We should all know that TV in particular plays a huge role in defining social roles etc and influences people so no it is not 'just a show' and all this crap should be accepted as part of the show.

An emotional distance, some taunting etc from Arnav's point of view would be fine for me as he thinks she is trying to break up his sister's marriage etc but not this type of behaviour. And I am honestly baffled that people think him throwing a blanket at her outside is showing his love and concern that he is trying to hide.

It's not totally the fault of Arnav's characterisation either - Khushi's characterisation is pretty bad too. She doesn't fight to get back in - she goes and sleeps on the pool? She sits and takes everything really - just because she spoke up a few times to him to ask why he made her marry him is not her being a strong character. Everyone is walking over her and she can't even tell her own sister in private why she got married? I'm tired of the Indian martyr bahus and wives. They set a bad example that if someone treats you badly you should just keep uiet and show a happy facade to the world. So many women who are abused do just that. I'm not one who believes in throwing your married life open to the world over every little fight but this is just overboard. Abusers act just like Arnav did today - they present a happy married life to the world especially to their family and abuse in private.

Anyways I hope they get rid of this part of his behaviour - I don't expect him to be nice to Khushi but there needs to be a limit and Khushi really needs to grow a bit of backbone to not turn this into the suffering wife / dominant husband typical serial characters.


Great post!! I felt the bolded parts needed to be highlighted. Excellent!! Thank you.
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Posted: 13 years ago
And, there are kids/adults on here who are actually defending it. Saw it in another thread. Kids doing it, I can understand (but hey, looks like TV DOES influence huh?) But, adult women? Really? Just because the guy looks sad, and feels bad, its all OK? Married women saying that??? Sheesh!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Pretty long thread by the time I logged in! Gr8 post!! How can some say its in ASR's character to do something like throwin some1 out in the cold! How can repenting & saying sorry later make this right?! The leads need not be perfect, infact we all love flawed ones.. But yest was taking it to a whole new level.. Earlier when he made her sit out in the cold (Nainital) or stand in the rain, it was shown as if he didnt think through the consequences of what he did- but yest he knew what he was doing... Which makes it more harder to swallow.. N the CVs think this kinda scenes are reqd to make the love more passionate later on! What crap!
N straying a bit away from the topic- Why is ASR bent on showin the world that all's well btwn them? N why cant Khushi tel why she got married to her sister or to her family now that Payal got married?
Gr8 post once again!👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
Btw, Arnav wants Khushi to put up a show in front of the family AFTER HE ruined the whole show himself.

He dragged Khushi along into the house after marriage, maintained a stoic silence on why he got married, gave the most depressed look possible and then rushed away from Khushi's side as if she was the 'plague' herself.

This double standard from a man, who despite every mean act, came through as a man with a 'heart'.

What more evidence do we need to put a stamp on the fact that 'ASR' has been killed effectively by the makers of this show.


Edited by wesha - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
nice thread good post. i agree with you it does not justify his action.
but he has been like that and also that the way his character definition has happened

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Edited by lwfw - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
I said this in other posts , but I had to say it again.
I thought love was trust.
I thought love was compassion.
I thought love was mutual respect.
And, very sadly I dont see that in our lead pair these days, atleast after yesterday.
I never knew , love has been just reduced to 'hotness quotient' and 'physical chemistry' these days.
Sad, but true. Are we to know that Arnav LOVES Khushi just because we have been said so ? Just because, they are hot together ? Sorry, but I cannot know somebody loves someone else just because I have been said so. I need to FEEL it.
For me, if I see the person I love being hugged by any X, Y,Z.,the first thing I would do was talk to MY BOYFRIEND about it, and not to any X,Y,Z.. and form opinions ..
I had my hopes high. I thought , on knowing the truth, Arnav will protect Khushi . But I have been disappointed. Time and again. Over and over.
Wats love if you cannot trust your partner that much ?
And, before i'm reminded by the horse-blinder-fans here that this was always meant to be a hate story , let me tell you- there is other was of potraying hate than domestic abuse..
Excuse me, but if Khushi is wrong to Arnav, then Shyam is equally so. But, when it comes to Shayam, Arnav cant do much besides giving cold stares ?
Why bother, wen you have your own personal woman to bully, who we are supposed to know that you love ?
I know, I AM inviting controversies talking about love, but honestly, there's nothing lovely, passionate and intense about the way Arnav treated Khushi.
To throw your wife out of your room on a cold night has NOTHING passionate in it. Sorry.
I would never want a man like Arnav , however hot he is. More important than anything is my dignity to me. And, I would not tolerate anybody abusing it. Especially, not my husband or boyfriend.
I loved ASR till yesterday. And, maybe I can never really hate him.. But, I definitely lost all respect for him. And, my respect has been abused to a point, from where there's no recovery.
Before, I am asked to keep my opinions to myself and switch to other shows , I should make it clear dat whether I switch to other shows or not, is beside the point. I WOULD talk about it, if I feel somethng is wrong.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Purple.nights

I said this in other posts , but I had to say it again.
I thought love was trust.
I thought love was compassion.
I thought love was mutual respect.
And, very sadly I dont see that in our lead pair these days, atleast after yesterday.
I never knew , love has been just reduced to 'hotness quotient' and 'physical chemistry' these days.
Sad, but true. Are we to know that Arnav LOVES Khushi just because we have been said so ? Just because, they are hot together ? Sorry, but I cannot know somebody loves someone else just because I have been said so. I need to FEEL it.
For me, if I see the person I love being hugged by any X, Y,Z.,the first thing I would do was talk to MY BOYFRIEND about it, and not to any X,Y,Z.. and form opinions ..
I had my hopes high. I thought , on knowing the truth, Arnav will protect Khushi . But I have been disappointed. Time and again. Over and over.
Wats love if you cannot trust your partner that much ?
And, before i'm reminded by the horse-blinder-fans here that this was always meant to be a hate story , let me tell you- there is other was of potraying hate than domestic abuse..
Excuse me, but if Khushi is wrong to Arnav, then Shyam is equally so. But, when it comes to Shayam, Arnav cant do much besides giving cold stares ?
Why bother, wen you have your own personal woman to bully, who we are supposed to know that you love ?
I know, I AM inviting controversies talking about love, but honestly, there's nothing lovely, passionate and intense about the way Arnav treated Khushi.
To throw your wife out of your room on a cold night has NOTHING passionate in it. Sorry.
I would never want a man like Arnav , however hot he is. More important than anything is my dignity to me. And, I would not tolerate anybody abusing it. Especially, not my husband or boyfriend.
I loved ASR till yesterday. And, maybe I can never really hate him.. But, I definitely lost all respect for him. And, my respect has been abused to a point, from where there's no recovery.
Before, I am asked to keep my opinions to myself and switch to other shows , I should make it clear dat whether I switch to other shows or not, is beside the point. I WOULD talk about it, if I feel somethng is wrong.

kudos to you for this post. i have said the same thing about the concept of 'love' on a different thread.
I don't believe Arnav really loves/loved Kushi. That's the only answer I can come up with.
Their love is yet to bloom (if it ever will)
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: HeadOverHeels

And, there are kids/adults on here who are actually defending it. Saw it in another thread. Kids doing it, I can understand (but hey, looks like TV DOES influence huh?) But, adult women? Really? Just because the guy looks sad, and feels bad, its all OK? Married women saying that??? Sheesh!!


i guess i fall into the "kid" category as im neither married nor have children. but i wasnt so disgusted by arnav's actions. im not an arnav drooler or anything. but from my point of view he has done far worse. he done this exact thing in nanital where he left her out in the cold and slept on the bed nice and warm. i dont remember if people were this outraged then. maybe bec now they r man and wife that his actions r being interpreted as domestic abuse. im not justifying his action as right .. he is WRONG. just pointing out that they dont consider each other as spouse. and he hates her ... well trying very very hard. what he did yest; was really worse than throwing her out of a window... or grabbing/twisting her arm that is actual physical abuse. and i think majority of us have forgiven him for that. i thought yesterday was n improvement in asr character. even in his asr mode he felt slight remorse and guilt which has never been shown this blatantly before.

bottom line.. under the circumstances what he did was very wrong. but in my opinion at least this was not something he cannot ever redeem himself from. i think the way asr was portrayed initally ... he would/could have done much much worse. esp. to the person he thought tried to hurt his sister. im not saying this as a justification to his action.. just that he has done much worse before and has been forgiven for it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
26 pages too late..Awesome discussion,SJ. I actually browse something else and hear the episode when it gets too SP ish.
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Posted: 13 years ago
This thread has gone over the top.. it has turned disgustingly unpleasant and messy. Several forum rules have been violated.

This thread needs to be reviewed by DT.

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