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Posted: 14 years ago
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The Darcification of
Arnav




So all right alright
… I had said that there is no way IPKKND was based on Pride and
Prejudice and Arnav was no Mr. Darcy…………..blame it on my intense possessiveness about Miss Austen's masterpiece……and some other things that I will talk about,
in just a bit…...but I have been thinking …since the infamous guest house
episode, Arnav has undergone such a dramatic change in his demeanour and
actions, that many are baying for the CV's blood for having turned the Ice-Man from Siberia into Vanilla Ice-Cream, with
cherry and valentine hearts topping!!!


(come to think of it,
that sounds like one delicious Arnav😍😍
)




As I was saying……there
is a lot more of Darcy in Arnav these days than there is ASR. My biggest grouse, against this being P&P inspired was the night and day difference in the charactersof ASR and Darcy, in essentials. When
Mr.Darcy is first introduced in the book, he is super handsome, super wealthy
and supercilious. He considers much of Meryton, including Elizabeth Bennet, beneath his notice and consideration. But his heart tells him otherwise and
slowly, unwillingly, he falls in love with her. But in all his interaction with Lizzy and her society, there is never a trace of vindictiveness, of malice or
of cruelty in Mr.Darcy. Which is exactly what ASR displays towards Khushi…..from the time she stumbles onto the ramp in his fashion show, to the accident, the
contract, to the ridiculously Herculean tasks (stay up all night to retype done reports????, stand in pouring rain at night to direct traffic??? Why, because he
overhears her wanting to go home at an earthly hour to celebrate her sister's birthday? Work from a crumbling house teeming with construction workers???) It was all
mean-spiritedness, a savage desire to put a lowly, poor girl who dared to stand up to him and question his belief-systems, in her place.




Mr. Darcy, on the
other hand, struggled with his own torments, but afforded Lizzy all respect and consideration due to her….even when his suit was bitterly rejected by her, he bids her a gracious goodbye in his famous letter, after the first proposal. There was no trace of any vindictiveness in him, for he later does all in his power to rescue
Lizzy's sister, without any hopes of even meeting Lizzy again.




So what of ASR to
Arnav transformation? I dare to call it Darcification because now he has moved from thinking of Khushi to thinking about her….looking out for her……It may all have started by seeing her quietly alluring, red-sari-ed avatar, but has now
progressed to something more than just a physical attraction. He has started to feel for her. Her well-being matters to him. No, he is not there yet…..there
being the state of being in love, to the exclusion of all else. But you can
jolly well bet that he is on the way.




What I am hoping for
in the upcoming episodes is for them to interact verbally….enough already to the eye locks………….the kind of verbal sparring that Mr. Darcy and Miss Bennet
engaged in…..oooh, the sparkling wit and the scintillating parry and riposte of:


"Your fault is a
propensity to hate everybody
"……..and "And yours is willfully to misunderstand
them"


The baselines have been drawn and established. Khushi has proved to be much more than just a pretty face, Arnav's character has much more depth than the shallow, one-dimensional
icicle he was introduced to us as…….they are equals and are attracted to each other. Now,
they need to communicate with each other….conversations need to happen, interactions that give each of them the chance to put forward their POVs need
to occur……….. Yay!!! Let the games begin….


*rubs hands in glee
and anticipation*


So what do you think? Does any of this make sense or have I just been rambling my head off?😃 Please share your views...bouquets and joote -chappal are all welcome😉


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Posted: 14 years ago
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What a great topic Vis, love it...!!
I think the initial portrayal of Arnav's character was a lot less polished and and chivialrous comapred to Mr. Darcy. Perhaps we should not even expect the same... those were different times and a different place...and ASR lives in a different world and a different place. However, I really love how the story has taken a turn to show more depth in Arnav's character than the one dimensional mean spirited, arrogant character sketch he started with...I love how it is growing...Would like to see more P&P in the story...may be Payash angle played a bit more, and Darcification of the story from that angle...It would be lovely to see those developments...
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Great post..Vistaa😛
you certainly stir up things around here..and I am glad for it livens things here and makes them larger than life.😆😆😆
I agree Arnav is quite similar to Mr Darcy..in terms of arrogance..and contempt for the class and even Lizzie's family espcially when he proposes to her..hahahah that is one of the meanest proposals i have read..and to think he is serious in his suit...Talk about brutal honesty or talk about giving Lizzie an ear full about her hasiyat..haha
Granted the extent to which Arnav went in making Khushi's life hell is also because the stories are set in different times and different situation..Women in Jane Austen's time did not work..they were expected to marry well..Who knows if Austen had written a modern day Pand P then maybe Darcy would have as cruel as ASR..Obviously she catered to those times...But the essence of the two men is quite the same espcially when it comes to thinking about a class different from yours..so much arrogance and hateur..
Beautifully put...when you said darcification..yes Mr Darcy not only saved Lizzie's sister from disaster but was noble enough to keep quiet about it but by then he was deeply in love with Lizzie and Love made him actually to think beyond himself..it changed him..
Arnav is also changing..but He is not there yet..He still has to realise the change and then fight it..and Mr darcy did not fight..Here is the difference..Mr Darcy was not a man embittered with the world out for revenge..whereas ASR saw personal tradegy at a young age and that made him out for a kill , to ride rough shod .to be ruthless...and to not believe in love for a start..Mr Darcy was no such man..He faced up to although with a great deal of reluctance proposed too as though it had been wrenched out of him and then plodded along without expectations..
It is however going to be interesting how ASR is going to juggle Arnav..the man who thinks about Khushi and ASR who thinks of Khushi..
But Vistaa...Jane would have been proud of you ...you just invented a new term..darcification.haha
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

What a great topic Vis, love it...!!

I think the initial portrayal of Arnav's character was a lot less polished and and chivialrous comapred to Mr. Darcy. Perhaps we should not even expect the same... those were different times and a different place...and ASR lives in a different world and a different place. However, I really love how the story has taken a turn to show more depth in Arnav's character than the one dimensional mean spirited, arrogant character sketch he started with...I love how it is growing...Would like to see more P&P in the story...may be Payash angle played a bit more, and Darcification of the story from that angle...It would be lovely to see those developments...

Hey Sush! Thanks😊
It was not just the difference of worlds and time between ASR and Mr.Darcy...it was the character essentials...It wouldn't have mattered a jot if all ASR had been guilty of were a few breaches of propriety...but he was downright cruel to Khushi...but oh...all in the past...hope for a more even interaction.
You raise a great point about Payal and Akash...they are running true to the sachcharine sweetness of Jane-Mr.Bingley😃
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Originally posted by: current

...But the essence of the two men is quite the same espcially when it comes to thinking about a class different from yours..so much arrogance and hateur..

Beautifully put...when you said darcification..yes Mr Darcy not only saved Lizzie's sister from disaster but was noble enough to keep quiet about it but by then he was deeply in love with Lizzie and Love made him actually to think beyond himself..it changed him..
Arnav is also changing..but He is not there yet..He still has to realise the change and then fight it..and Mr darcy did not fight..Here is the difference..Mr Darcy was not a man embittered with the world out for revenge..whereas ASR saw personal tradegy at a young age and that made him out for a kill , to ride rough shod .to be ruthless...and to not believe in love for a start..Mr Darcy was no such man..He faced up to although with a great deal of reluctance proposed too as though it had been wrenched out of him and then plodded along without expectations..
It is however going to be interesting how ASR is going to juggle Arnav..the man who thinks about Khushi and ASR who thinks of Khushi..
But Vistaa...Jane would have been proud of you ...you just invented a new term..darcification.haha

Very good points, Zainab! There are major similarities and major differences...If I am not mistaken Mr. Darcy was a lot older than Arnav ...and so was Lizzie compared to our Jalebi...so I do feel that there is big difference in the maturity level of the characters as well...which probably is also more appealing to the current audience. Never the less, what is similar is really strong and can be built on...Khushi shows very strong traits of Lizzie ...even if she puts it forward in an innocent way...and Arnav's feelings about the class have to be resolved...I hope it is not only based on Arhi eye locks and there is conversation between them which has substance...The directors have shown glimpses of it already..I am very optimistic...!!
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Originally posted by: current

Great post..Vistaa😛

Hola Girl!😊
you certainly stir up things around here..and I am glad for it livens things here and makes them larger than life.😆😆😆 Anything to keep minds off of fan fights😉😆
I agree Arnav is quite similar to Mr Darcy..in terms of arrogance..and contempt for the class and even Lizzie's family espcially when he proposes to her..hahahah that is one of the meanest proposals i have read..and to think he is serious in his suit...Talk about brutal honesty or talk about giving Lizzie an ear full about her hasiyat..haha Brutal honesty indeed! I knoww...the hoot worthy point was that he was still convinced what he did was absolutely the right thing to do for " disguise of every sort is my abhorrence"😆😆
Granted the extent to which Arnav went in making Khushi's life hell is also because the stories are set in different times and different situation..Women in Jane Austen's time did not work..they were expected to marry well..Who knows if Austen had written a modern day Pand P then maybe Darcy would have as cruel as ASR..Obviously she catered to those times...But the essence of the two men is quite the same espcially when it comes to thinking about a class different from yours..so much arrogance and hateur...Class consciousness is all very well..but letting the girl fall one floor just because she is being mouthy??? For all his excesses, I don't buy the geography and history argument...ASR was essentially mean and cruel to her, which Mr. Darcy never was, even in the face of extreme provocations by Lizzy...remember the ball?
Beautifully put...when you said darcification..yes Mr Darcy not only saved Lizzie's sister from disaster but was noble enough to keep quiet about it but by then he was deeply in love with Lizzie and Love made him actually to think beyond himself..it changed him..
Arnav is also changing..but He is not there yet.Very true.He still has to realise the change and then fight it..and Mr darcy did not fight..Here is the difference..Mr Darcy was not a man embittered with the world out for revenge..whereas ASR saw personal tradegy at a young age and that made him out for a kill , to ride rough shod .to be ruthless...and to not believe in love for a start..Mr Darcy was no such man..He faced up to although with a great deal of reluctance proposed too as though it had been wrenched out of him and then plodded along without expectations..Mr.Darcy had gone through a few life-changing events of his own...his parents death and just before coming to Netherfields, his sister's near-elopement. But I agree, Arnav's back-story, such as we have guessed it to be, appears to be more dire.
It is however going to be interesting how ASR is going to juggle Arnav..the man who thinks about Khushi and ASR who thinks of Khushi..😃can't wait
But Vistaa...Jane would have been proud of you ..Awww you flatter me...☺️... Miss Austen is the Queen...you just invented a new term..darcification.haha

Thanks sweetie for the response...😊
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Its this aspect of Vindictiveness that sets Arnav apart from Darcy otherwise there would've been no difference... he would be a carbon copy of an already popular character with no originality or substance of his own... Arnav has faced dilemmas and situations which have made him suspicious of the intentions of others... so when he met Khushi for the first time he thought of her as someone who wanted to tarnish his reputation and hurt him!!

Good post!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

Very good points, Zainab! There are major similarities and major differences...If I am not mistaken Mr. Darcy was a lot older than Arnav ...and so was Lizzie compared to our Jalebi...so I do feel that there is big difference in the maturity level of the characters as well...which probably is also more appealing to the current audience. Never the less, what is similar is really strong and can be built on...Khushi shows very strong traits of Lizzie ...even if she puts it forward in an innocent way...and Arnav's feelings about the class have to be resolved...I hope it is not only based on Arhi eye locks and there is conversation between them which has substance...The directors have shown glimpses of it already..I am very optimistic...!!

@Underlined: Actually, Mr. Darcy was 27 and Lizzy 21.
Lizzy and Khushi similarities...oh, I could fry jalebies for whole forum at the prospect😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great post Vista.
Theres a whale of difference between Darcy and Arnav, yet there are some similarities.
Arnav was vidictive and went slightly overboard in dealing out those ridiculous tasks to Kushi, a kind of obssessive compulsion to always single out her. Yet he could never get her out of mind or his presence for long.
Darcy was a Gentle man who behaved in a manner deemed fit for that state.
Now both Kushi and Arnav are at crossroads; a mutual feeling of some strong inner current affecting them. A realisation that sooner or later they will have to accept and face each other to decide on what course of action to be taken.
In a way we can slowly see the Darcification of Arnav happening. How he will convince himself that it is love for her and go about it, making her fall for him, will be very interesting to watch.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Great post and comparision for being different 👏
yes even i want now the next move to be done by CVs.
Thats why i hope Shyam will be catalyst as rightly put by aditi (akka tibs09 )

ASR action and reaction to kushi was initially due to just taking avenge and prove his point , because first time somebody was trying to prove the other way. Later on he kept on feeling bad because his human surface came up . Was he attracted to her while she wore red dress.
I think it was more of a surprise to him because he never treated her like a being . So first time he was made notices that she is a girl that too a beautiful girl 😳 during GH i guess he was taking responsibility of her he was confused when it made him much more humane 😆
towards her 😳

i am ready with seat belt for a jolly ride in coming weeks.
But first with teej being over , how will they make Arhi come in single screen space will be it due to resignation letter (re surfing) or
shyam

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